Many problems with this method that is complicated than needed.
With a traditional method, write down seed phrase. If you make a typo, you can check it more easily than with color. With colors, you can not differentiate them with your eyes and even printing does not display a color exactly as it is.
Your table has many columns, what will happen if you lose one of those columns? The printed colors are not trusted because of ink and printing machines.
Using a traditional method, writing down a seed and save your backup safely is good enough.
If you are fearful of physical damage like water, fire, pressure, acid, use metal plates, ...
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You can fund the seed phrase addresses generated without passphrase with little amount of bitcoin. Like $10.
I think this will be a mistake. Such coincidences are unlikely, and therefore the scoundrels will torture you to find out your passphrase.
Paintings by the Artist Kandinsky are ideal for encrypting seed phrases.
You can use passphrase to extend your seed phrase to generate different keys and addresses which will be the keys and addresses with the high amount of bitcoin.
You can fund the seed phrase addresses generated without passphrase with little amount of bitcoin. Like $10.
If a strong passphrase is used for the one geneted with passphrase where the keys and addresses that controls the main coins are well funded, that is secure. Having the seed phrase backup in two or three different locations is enough while the passphrase should have different backups.
You can fund the seed phrase addresses generated without passphrase with little amount of bitcoin. Like $10.
If a strong passphrase is used for the one geneted with passphrase where the keys and addresses that controls the main coins are well funded, that is secure. Having the seed phrase backup in two or three different locations is enough while the passphrase should have different backups.
Thanks for your opinion, I wanted to show how it works in Excel without unnecessary scripts.
I agree that if you know what to look for, you can find a pattern, although this is very, very difficult if there are a lot of photos. But we will use the passphrase in Trezor, Ledger or other hardware wallets.
I agree that if you know what to look for, you can find a pattern, although this is very, very difficult if there are a lot of photos. But we will use the passphrase in Trezor, Ledger or other hardware wallets.
Isn't the same with what was presented in this thread? Storing Private Keys with Colors, how safe is this?
It might seem like a nice idea to you but as long as we're dealing with anything that has to do with my finance I'll never try something that has not been tested by others for a long period of time to see if it's reliable or not to store my Private Key, no offense but I'd rather store my Private Key in a steel plate and keep in a safe place rather than to try this.
It might seem like a nice idea to you but as long as we're dealing with anything that has to do with my finance I'll never try something that has not been tested by others for a long period of time to see if it's reliable or not to store my Private Key, no offense but I'd rather store my Private Key in a steel plate and keep in a safe place rather than to try this.
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Colors are everywhere
BIPColors gives you an additional layer of obfuscation because colors are widely present in various sources such as website source code, color palettes used by artists, images, and more. And it's not as obvious as finding a piece of paper with 12 words making them undetectable to hackers or thieves.
Problem number one - these colors are not standard, a fixed number of non-standard colors used together is already an easy to spot pattern. There more people use this method, the more hackers will look for this pattern. It's even trivial to write an algorithm that will analyze colors and find sets of these random colors and convert them back to seed.BIPColors gives you an additional layer of obfuscation because colors are widely present in various sources such as website source code, color palettes used by artists, images, and more. And it's not as obvious as finding a piece of paper with 12 words making them undetectable to hackers or thieves.
Problem number two - colors can get corrupted. You draw a picture with these colors, save it in a lossy format, upload it somewhere and it might shift colors and render the seed unrecoverable.
I'm sure there's a lot of problems with this, like the most basic rule that there's no security by obscurity.
color decoding
1. We use any convenient service
https://sanstv.ru/color#1ed82b
2 Convert to decimal
3. Add 0
4. Put the numbers in the correct order.
I didn't change the order of the colors, but if you swap the colors, you will need to write them in the correct order according to your step, which you can remember.
5. Remove the first 2 digits
6. We get a sequence of numbers
141417021419067202161027060618531302116419490515
7. Divide the sequence into groups of 4 numbers
1414 1702 1419 0672 0216 1027 0606 1853 1302 1164 1949 0515
8. Remove 0 if it is in front
9. Find words in the BIP39 word list
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I agree with the forum participants that this is not an ideal way to save a seed phrase, but this method has the possibility of being used in practice with other options, such as a passphrase.
And secure storage should only be in digital format.
1. We use any convenient service
https://sanstv.ru/color#1ed82b
2 Convert to decimal
3. Add 0
4. Put the numbers in the correct order.
I didn't change the order of the colors, but if you swap the colors, you will need to write them in the correct order according to your step, which you can remember.
5. Remove the first 2 digits
6. We get a sequence of numbers
141417021419067202161027060618531302116419490515
7. Divide the sequence into groups of 4 numbers
1414 1702 1419 0672 0216 1027 0606 1853 1302 1164 1949 0515
8. Remove 0 if it is in front
9. Find words in the BIP39 word list
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I agree with the forum participants that this is not an ideal way to save a seed phrase, but this method has the possibility of being used in practice with other options, such as a passphrase.
And secure storage should only be in digital format.
Author of the idea
https://twitter.com/EnteroPositivo
Convert your BIP39 mnemonic to colors and viceversa
https://enteropositivo.github.io/bip39colors/#biptocolors
Let's say you have a seed phrase, but I generated it on this service
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/#english
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I do not trust any services other than Excel. Don't do this in Google Sheets, I'm doing this as an example.
You can do this on any PC that is disconnected from the Internet
1. Write our seed phrase in this order
2.Find word position in BIP39 word list:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
3.We need to get 4 digits. In lines with less than 4 digits, we add the required number of 0s at the beginning to make 4 digits
4.Combine all the digits into 1 large number and we get 48 digits.
141417021419067202161027060618531302116419490515
5.Split this number into groups of 6 digits
141417 021419 067202 161027 060618 531302 116419 490515
6.A sequence number must be added to each group.
You can use a different step, for example 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 or 00 02 04 06 08 10 12 14 or 00 03 09 .... and so on, but the main thing is not to forget this step. This is necessary when decoding and the important thing is that the colors do not need to be stored in a certain order, because the sequence number is encrypted in the color.
I use 00 02 04 06 08 10 12 14 to make the colors as distinct as possible.
7.Next, convert the resulting 8-digit numbers to hexadecimal
8.If we have a 5-digit value, then add 0 in front
8.Now finally, after a lot of work, you can add colors to your table.
9. To check, you can use a converter and check the result. Use the script on a computer that is not connected to the Internet.
#022869 #1ED82B #3E0F82 #5E0283 #7AFECA #A0B1E6 #B8E1C3 #DD1B93
https://enteropositivo.github.io/bip39colors/#colorstobip39
compares phrase seed
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I'm tired for today, if you're interested, I'll show you in the same format how to decipher colors in Excel.
This is a very simple and safe way to store your seed phrase. You can add these colors to any painting and it won't be noticeable.
https://twitter.com/EnteroPositivo
Convert your BIP39 mnemonic to colors and viceversa
https://enteropositivo.github.io/bip39colors/#biptocolors
Let's say you have a seed phrase, but I generated it on this service
https://iancoleman.io/bip39/#english
radar start rally fault brain leopard entry travel pencil multiply vicious doctor
I do not trust any services other than Excel. Don't do this in Google Sheets, I'm doing this as an example.
You can do this on any PC that is disconnected from the Internet
1. Write our seed phrase in this order
2.Find word position in BIP39 word list:
https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt
3.We need to get 4 digits. In lines with less than 4 digits, we add the required number of 0s at the beginning to make 4 digits
4.Combine all the digits into 1 large number and we get 48 digits.
141417021419067202161027060618531302116419490515
5.Split this number into groups of 6 digits
141417 021419 067202 161027 060618 531302 116419 490515
6.A sequence number must be added to each group.
You can use a different step, for example 00 01 02 03 04 05 06 07 or 00 02 04 06 08 10 12 14 or 00 03 09 .... and so on, but the main thing is not to forget this step. This is necessary when decoding and the important thing is that the colors do not need to be stored in a certain order, because the sequence number is encrypted in the color.
I use 00 02 04 06 08 10 12 14 to make the colors as distinct as possible.
7.Next, convert the resulting 8-digit numbers to hexadecimal
8.If we have a 5-digit value, then add 0 in front
8.Now finally, after a lot of work, you can add colors to your table.
9. To check, you can use a converter and check the result. Use the script on a computer that is not connected to the Internet.
#022869 #1ED82B #3E0F82 #5E0283 #7AFECA #A0B1E6 #B8E1C3 #DD1B93
https://enteropositivo.github.io/bip39colors/#colorstobip39
compares phrase seed
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I'm tired for today, if you're interested, I'll show you in the same format how to decipher colors in Excel.
This is a very simple and safe way to store your seed phrase. You can add these colors to any painting and it won't be noticeable.
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