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Quote from: jossiel on January 23, 2023, 06:26:53 AM

There's also the match fixing.

And the fraud goes with those people claiming that they know a match that's about to be fixed and from there, they're asking people to deposit and bet also with them.

Those that are gullible to believe them, not too curious about asking for any verifications are likely to fall for this type of fraud. Due to their greediness, they're forgetting to verify and ask certain questions and deposit quickly.

That's the problem that's coming back to them because of being greedy.

People will always tend to become greedy as long as money matters involved, even if they know that those who claim fixed matching could end up as scammers. However, I won’t believe also that there’s no fixed matching as it’s really happening but people are just scared to disclose about it. But since we are in gambling, everything is uncertain, and those who are weak and have no real understanding on the match itself, would only want to make quick profits and would take risk believing that it could be possible even if they fall as victims of fraud in the end.

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Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

Fraud is intentional deception to secure unfair or unlawful gain. Fraud and fraudulent activities can be found in every spheres of life. In the online casinos and betting there are common frauds that are perpetrated by criminals in the guise of gambling. They include:

1. Bonus Abuse
Bonus abuse is the practice of joining up for a service repeatedly using promotional offers that are typically only available to new members. There are various terms are used to describe it, such as bonus abuse, casino whoring, bonus hunting, and promo abuse. This practice, known as multi-accounting in the fraud world, frequently targets no-deposit bonuses like free spins or free money. It mostly affects poker, casino, and sports betting websites, but any business that leverages signup bonuses as a marketing strategy may be at risk.

The problem is that fraudsters attempt to create as many new accounts as possible, relying on stolen IDs, resulting in synthetic identity fraud and prepaid credit card details to bypass the Know Your Customer (KYC) checks. More sophisticated criminals can also have the resources to use emulators, virtual machines, and even residential-like IPs, such as Socks5 proxies or mobile networks to leverage fresh IP addresses.
2. Collusion
The use of numerous accounts by one person or a group of individuals who work together to influence a particular outcome is known as collusion. The most popular target of collusion schemes is online poker. Players occasionally open new accounts to restart from scratch. A poker tournament's big pot may potentially be won through collusion. However, it can also happen in other card games such as Blackjack. Sometimes, players collude to commit bonus fraud.

Players might even engage in self-collusion by creating many accounts and then use one account to win over another. For example, two players register and make a $500 deposit to receive a $50 signup bonus. They can lose to each other until they reach the rollover requirements. Upon meeting the conditions, both players can cash out, and each walks away $50 richer.
3. Chip Dumping
Chip dumping is the act of purposefully losing chips to another player at the table. It's something that thieves have been known to use in an effort to launder money they have acquired illegally. They believe that if they lose all of their money to a different poker account that they already own, that the original source of the funds might be lost. They hire individuals to gamble online and lose to a single person. Once that person cashes out, the money will appear as legally earned. It is a form of collusion
4. Impersonation
Impersonation is when a player acts on behalf of somebody in a nonconsensual manner. They do that using stolen accounts. Moreover, fraudsters would look for proxy servers using SOCKS5 VPN and RDPs. There, they can conduct impersonation and other fraudulent activities. Impersonation can also happen with consent, like in an affiliation scheme. An experienced player uses an account to play on behalf of a newbie. They will enjoy their perks and fraud online gambling sites for profit percentages.
5. Credit Card Fraud
At gambling websites, it is very typical to see thieves using stolen credit cards. If they can get the card to work, they can quickly and easily cash out. Cybercriminals can use a stolen credit card to top up an online casino account. From there, they can withdraw in cryptocurrency.
6. Chargeback Fraud
Also known as friendly fraud, this is when a legitimate customer files a chargeback under false pretenses to get their money back. It happens rather frequently in online gambling, when a person who just lost a lot of money might phone their bank, say that their card was used without their knowledge, and then get their gabling losses refunded. Gambling establishments may counter the onslaughts. However, if they receive too many chargebacks, it could result in damaging their relationship with card providers. Being unable to support payments from a major card issuer can basically cost them their business. More often than not, just swallowing the loss is more practical than fighting it.

Note that - Collusion, bonus abuse and chip dumping are subcategories of Multiple account fraud.

That's all for now. Thank you for reading.
What other common or uncommon type of online gambling fraud have you noticed?

It feels like you've covered most of the frauds taking place, maybe one to add is something that has cropped up recently a few times on these very forums. Where a user will blatantly abuse promotions in one form or another, and then when they have been caught out move on to a game of trying to smear the casino's reputation in order to get hush money. So not only are they caught cheating, but they continue to act innocent and it can be hard to distinguish between an honest player or an abuser unless they trap themselves in lies. Collusion is definitely one to watch out for in places like online and offline poker because it can enhance the possibility you are beaten every hand.

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Quote from: Baofeng on January 25, 2023, 06:00:18 PM

I don't know if you guys have experienced this, but someone will approach you in the floor and asking if he can borrow your card because the person will say that he wants to give some privilege on his card, for whatever it is.

Sounds scam to me so of course, I will turn down his request. What irritates me most of the time is that this scammers are going to approach women. So one time they approaches my wife without knowing that I'm behind them. So I immediately jump and says take their scam to someone else and then I call the security, and I told them everything and they should kick this guy out.

There's a lot of things these people will do to get some money. I haven't seen this lend me a card thing, but in the gambling parlors around the world you'll literally find everything from petty thieves, pickpockets, to hackers. There are people who want to borrow your phone or offer to take your picture and run away, people who will scan your card with a wireless scanner by standing next to you, those that will spike your drinks, often there are girls who offer to go with you to your place for a party and then you wake up the next day with no money and no phone. In China there are girls that will offer to show you around and they'll take you to a restaurant where you'll get charged 3 times more than a local guy would be and they share the profit with the owner. Usually I don't talk with strangers and keep my distance. I won't meet new people, but I prefer that than losing money.

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Quote from: CryptoYar on January 26, 2023, 06:23:56 AM

As far as I know, most of the people's funds get stuck just because they use multiple accounts which is not allowed by casino sites so one account per casino should be used.

Yeah, they won't be stuck if there's no valid reason from the casino.

Sometimes, they've been giving that impression to the casino where their funds are stuck because they can't get it. But they don't tell the reason that they know of the reason of being held.

There's an abuse that they've probably done and the casino has detected it and that's why they can't be released.

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Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

1. Bonus Abuse
Bonus abuse is the practice of joining up for a service repeatedly using promotional offers that are typically only available to new members. There are various terms are used to describe it, such as bonus abuse, casino whoring, bonus hunting, and promo abuse. This practice, known as multi-accounting in the fraud world, frequently targets no-deposit bonuses like free spins or free money. It mostly affects poker, casino, and sports betting websites, but any business that leverages signup bonuses as a marketing strategy may be at risk.

The problem is that fraudsters attempt to create as many new accounts as possible, relying on stolen IDs, resulting in synthetic identity fraud and prepaid credit card details to bypass the Know Your Customer (KYC) checks. More sophisticated criminals can also have the resources to use emulators, virtual machines, and even residential-like IPs, such as Socks5 proxies or mobile networks to leverage fresh IP addresses.

This can be extended to all types of abuse. Players/hackers can identify some sort of bug and start to abuse the system. I try to find some related articles about this issue but unfortunately, this is the only article I have:

https://www.wired.com/2014/10/cheating-video-poker/

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Quote from: Casdinyard on January 26, 2023, 11:41:46 AM

Quote from: davis196 on January 26, 2023, 06:53:19 AM

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7. social engineering (Soft begging)

I have seen a lot of times people in the casinos chat telling some really sad stories with the intention of touching other users' hearts and that way receiving some coins. We can call it the shame speech.

Who would believe a sad story that is being told by a random person in an online chat nowadays? I thought that the "Nigerian prince" email scam would never survive in the long run. Maybe I was wrong. Grin

Anyway, OP has mentioned all the ways the gamblers are trying to scam the casinos. We should make a list about all the methods the online casinos are using in order to scam their customers.
I think that the credit card fraud shouldn't be mentioned here, because:
1.This is a crypto gambling forum and most crypto casinos don't accept credit/debit cards.
2.Most online casinos(both fiat and online) are trying to stay away from credit/debit card payments, because they might get accused into supporting money laundering/CC fraud, so their business might be facing big trouble.

Well to be fair, the Nigerian Prince Email scam is still running even to this day. They just use different tactics now. But I digress. The fact that chargebacks are as easy to execute as breathing is the main reason why most casinos nowadays settle with using cryptocurrency payments, because at least when you use crypto you don't have any power over it anymore. Then again CC is still a pretty rampant payment method amongst casinos so I see why it could still see some usage, and I understand the fact that this is a crypto forum but people come in here, especially in this particular part of the site for gambling advises and tips as well, so I think it's alright that OP mentioned it.

The nigerian prince email format has evolved, and it might be used now in an attempt to execute phishing attacks in order to hack an account the individual have at a casino. There are many false emails being sent to many crypto enthusiasts in a daily basis, simulating announcements from official social medias, banks and crypto services in general. If you click one of those links they send, and give any personal passwords, it's likely hackers will have access to your virtual accounts, including casinos, if you use the same password for different services.

I believe they can also steal credit cards this way, if the person is naive enough to give his further personal details, as the masked scammers keep asking for it.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 26, 2023, 04:52:52 AM

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That's all for now. Thank you for reading.
What other common or uncommon type of online gambling fraud have you noticed?

Yes. Another kind of online gambling I have noticed is the selling of "fixed matches/correct scores", and I'm sure many persons should know about this, as it's very common in the game of soccer, whereby a user comes up or create a social media ads or on telegram promising he/she has an insider among the football organisers team, and some matches have been fixed, and all you need is to just pay a certain amount of money to be given the correct score for the day, that can make you rich if only you stake with huge funds, of which always ends up as scam.

I've come across that before on my telegram in the past and it kept me from using telegram too much and setting up my telegram account so there are no ads like that. We may often see grandiose promises like that in many places, especially when it is about gambling that says, "you will get a lot of profit if you join us" and blah blah blah. But the reality is not so because no matter how hard we try to play gambling, our chances of winning are not too big but we can get bigger losses than we imagine.

When you feel something is too good to be true then it scam for sure, individual or group of them try to lure the random people from online groups with such attractive offers even though that not much people hear their story still there are complete ignorant individual may be trapped by them.

As for as OP, its good list though but we missed about cheating in the games like using strategies which are not allowed by the casino or the sport betting site.

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Quote from: davis196 on January 26, 2023, 06:53:19 AM

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7. social engineering (Soft begging)

I have seen a lot of times people in the casinos chat telling some really sad stories with the intention of touching other users' hearts and that way receiving some coins. We can call it the shame speech.

Who would believe a sad story that is being told by a random person in an online chat nowadays? I thought that the "Nigerian prince" email scam would never survive in the long run. Maybe I was wrong. Grin

Anyway, OP has mentioned all the ways the gamblers are trying to scam the casinos. We should make a list about all the methods the online casinos are using in order to scam their customers.
I think that the credit card fraud shouldn't be mentioned here, because:
1.This is a crypto gambling forum and most crypto casinos don't accept credit/debit cards.
2.Most online casinos(both fiat and online) are trying to stay away from credit/debit card payments, because they might get accused into supporting money laundering/CC fraud, so their business might be facing big trouble.

Well to be fair, the Nigerian Prince Email scam is still running even to this day. They just use different tactics now. But I digress. The fact that chargebacks are as easy to execute as breathing is the main reason why most casinos nowadays settle with using cryptocurrency payments, because at least when you use crypto you don't have any power over it anymore. Then again CC is still a pretty rampant payment method amongst casinos so I see why it could still see some usage, and I understand the fact that this is a crypto forum but people come in here, especially in this particular part of the site for gambling advises and tips as well, so I think it's alright that OP mentioned it.

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Quote from: Hispo on January 25, 2023, 09:32:45 PM

It is not ideal to remove bonuses, I agree.
It is more about being reasonable with the restrictions of those and letting know the gamblers about those. I believe that a good advertisement campaign without bonuses is possible but it would not be the same.

Also, small casinos should not take the risk and offer deposit bonuses which could let them to experiment serious problems, better to stick to wagering ones.

Why do the casino team remove bonuses because bonuses are the most effective promotional efforts and very fast in attracting gamblers to use the site.
There are many ways of promotion without imposing bonuses, namely by using signature campaigns such as some casinos that use this forum as a place for them to carry out promotional campaigns that are participated in by several forum members and have also proven to be able to attract other members in the forum to enter and use the casino.
But it will be even more optimal in the promotion if it is not only a signature campaign but also provides a deposit bonus or the first time bet by new users.

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7. social engineering (Soft begging)

I have seen a lot of times people in the casinos chat telling some really sad stories with the intention of touching other users' hearts and that way receiving some coins. We can call it the shame speech.

Who would believe a sad story that is being told by a random person in an online chat nowadays? I thought that the "Nigerian prince" email scam would never survive in the long run. Maybe I was wrong. Grin

Anyway, OP has mentioned all the ways the gamblers are trying to scam the casinos. We should make a list about all the methods the online casinos are using in order to scam their customers.
I think that the credit card fraud shouldn't be mentioned here, because:
1.This is a crypto gambling forum and most crypto casinos don't accept credit/debit cards.
2.Most online casinos(both fiat and online) are trying to stay away from credit/debit card payments, because they might get accused into supporting money laundering/CC fraud, so their business might be facing big trouble.

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Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

5. Credit Card Fraud
At gambling websites, it is very typical to see thieves using stolen credit cards. If they can get the card to work, they can quickly and easily cash out. Cybercriminals can use a stolen credit card to top up an online casino account. From there, they can withdraw in cryptocurrency.

I don't think credit cards fraud is still possible as nowadays Credit Cards have 3D Security which is another layer of security (OTP). Moreover, most casino sites that accept credit cards are licensed, and they require KYC verification before making any deposit, so they already know if you used your own credit card or someone else's and if card holder name does not match with with users name then they'll stop the deposit and most likely the casino will suspend that user's account for suspicious activity.

Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

Note that - Collusion, bonus abuse and chip dumping are subcategories of Multiple account fraud.

As far as I know, most of the people's funds get stuck just because they use multiple accounts which is not allowed by casino sites so one account per casino should be used.

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on January 26, 2023, 01:49:45 AM

Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

That's all for now. Thank you for reading.
What other common or uncommon type of online gambling fraud have you noticed?

Yes. Another kind of online gambling I have noticed is the selling of "fixed matches/correct scores", and I'm sure many persons should know about this, as it's very common in the game of soccer, whereby a user comes up or create a social media ads or on telegram promising he/she has an insider among the football organisers team, and some matches have been fixed, and all you need is to just pay a certain amount of money to be given the correct score for the day, that can make you rich if only you stake with huge funds, of which always ends up as scam.

I've come across that before on my telegram in the past and it kept me from using telegram too much and setting up my telegram account so there are no ads like that. We may often see grandiose promises like that in many places, especially when it is about gambling that says, "you will get a lot of profit if you join us" and blah blah blah. But the reality is not so because no matter how hard we try to play gambling, our chances of winning are not too big but we can get bigger losses than we imagine.

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Quote from: alastantiger on January 23, 2023, 04:43:03 AM

That's all for now. Thank you for reading.
What other common or uncommon type of online gambling fraud have you noticed?

Yes. Another kind of online gambling I have noticed is the selling of "fixed matches/correct scores", and I'm sure many persons should know about this, as it's very common in the game of soccer, whereby a user comes up or create a social media ads or on telegram promising he/she has an insider among the football organisers team, and some matches have been fixed, and all you need is to just pay a certain amount of money to be given the correct score for the day, that can make you rich if only you stake with huge funds, of which always ends up as scam.

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I can see that the first three are poker related, and would not affect the house so much as fair play by colluding to win against other players, but a decent house has to ensure fair play and avoid these problems.

The others are more of a financial or identity theft or fraud nature.

Quote from: seoincorporation on January 23, 2023, 09:31:08 AM

I would like to add another point to that list.

7. social engineering (Soft begging)

I have seen a lot of times people in the casinos chat telling some really sad stories with the intention of touching other users' hearts and that way receiving some coins. We can call it the shame speech.

Sometimes it works and other times they just get ignored but is a practice that has become more common nowadays, and users must be careful with this practice.

Thanks, I'll write that one down, I didn't know it. The bad thing about that is that it makes you distrust everyone, even those who can tell a legitimate story. But anyone who has a sobbing story shouldn't be in the casino, so if it happens to me automatically I won't pay any attention.

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it's not possible.
removing the bonus completely is the same as the gambling plaform does not do any marketing.
this bonus is one of the marketing forms of a gambling platform to attract more customers to enter there. if removing the bonus to avoid fraud, that I think is not the best way.
fraud in the world of gambling has become a natural thing and the most common thing that occurs is bonus abuse fraud. it is unavoidable and has become such a habit that is attached to gambling.
so removing the bonus is not the best way for me.

It is not ideal to remove bonuses, I agree.
It is more about being reasonable with the restrictions of those and letting know the gamblers about those. I believe that a good advertisement campaign without bonuses is possible but it would not be the same.

Also, small casinos should not take the risk and offer deposit bonuses which could let them to experiment serious problems, better to stick to wagering ones.

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Quote from: jossiel on January 23, 2023, 06:26:53 AM

There's also the match fixing.

And the fraud goes with those people claiming that they know a match that's about to be fixed and from there, they're asking people to deposit and bet also with them.

Actually, if gambling in a respective and established sports book, expect that it's a rare case where you can bet on a fixed match. Although it's happening, it's not that big leagues or players will be involved in that. These people won't exchange their reputation for a small amount they can get by joining the fixed match.

Instead of the actual fixed match, what others do prioritize is, always staying at those random users who will offer you such things.

There's no such thing as these people who are involved in the fixed matches for real will contact random users to offer their sh*t service.

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What other common or uncommon type of online gambling fraud have you noticed?

I'm not too many updates about fraud that occurs in gambling activites, but looking at the list of these types of fraud proves that it can be done in groups and maybe it is organized so that the fraudsters manage to do it repeatedly and in many casinos and gain much money.
Fraud using credit cards is a concern for us not to just enter numbers on our credit cards on any website because these websites may leak our data or they will be hacked so that our data will leak and be used by these fraudsters.

Bonus abuse and collusion are common in my location. Bonus abuse is common in online gambling platforms because they usually give bonuses to attract new customers and boast the loyalty of old customers. This gives most gamblers the opportunity of registering with different identities just to get these bonuses.
Collusion happens more in offline or land based gambling platforms because sometimes gamblers are usually familiar with the workers. These greedy workers tend to undo thier institutions because of there insatiable desire for money by giving out or selling vital information to outsiders.

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I don't know if you guys have experienced this, but someone will approach you in the floor and asking if he can borrow your card because the person will say that he wants to give some privilege on his card, for whatever it is.

Sounds scam to me so of course, I will turn down his request. What irritates me most of the time is that this scammers are going to approach women. So one time they approaches my wife without knowing that I'm behind them. So I immediately jump and says take their scam to someone else and then I call the security, and I told them everything and they should kick this guy out.

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This is one of the coolest topics I've ever seen in the gambling section,AFAIK. peeps like you are rare -- keep it going.
Anything that seems to produce wealth, affluence, money and fame is done by every means to get 'em. Sometimes, they're given the Ts and C's, but because they need 'em without any major obstructions or qualifications, they'll try to take cuts and loop holes, just to get what they want. Some peeps think they can simply go up and get registered just to have 'em claims for certified members, and that where you'll begin to see all manner of insubordinations ,etc ...I remember a case when a member reported Trustdice for refusing to pay his funds, after every investigations, we discovered that he messed up with the system and his account was under probation.
It happens almost everytime; in here, that's the same thing we are facing.... Only few has decided to follow the paths correctly.

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Quote from: letteredhub on January 25, 2023, 02:52:34 AM

Bonus abuse is one frequent act among gamblers, and this is due to greed incorporated by the gambler to make a win at all cost without minding the consequences of such immature gambling behavior.
Like the gambling company ain't stupid to have pull up some bonus offers, it's just another way of they appreciating, recognizing and encouraging the customers, giving them opportunity to make up for losses. But some gamblers don't understand this.

This kind of abuse is very common especially when a casino is giving out bonus randomly to there customers. There are always some persons that do have multiple accounts on easch casino so that they can have multiple bonus es to play games and make winnings at the end making the casino to lose severely without knowing. This kind attempt are reducing because most casinos do have alternative ways to check there players and verify there IP addresses if there is any form of multiple accounting by a player.

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