Topic: [Community] Let's Move Forward From MtGox (Read 1865 times)
Let gox go away. It's been too tainted and people won't touch it again, probably. Now, I'm sure there are some great people at gox (I'm hoping to anyway), and I would hope they would move on to keep making a great community.
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Customers arent scammers.
I didn't say customers are scammers, I said new customers bring the money to the scammers.And if the customers wanna see 100% of their money this is what has to happen.
That is a fair point but you don't know it'll work. They might just mess up again and lose even more money in the process. In my opinion they should just use the assets they do have to pay back their customers in the fairest manner possible and then call it a day.If they have a new team & remove CEO then gox will be just as trustworthy as any other exchange. The past not really important.
If its the same CEO im not in support.
Winklevoss twins buying would be awesome.
Get rid of the CEO & have a new team & no problem
That's exactly what people said last time they did this. Do we really need to go through it one more time?For those claiming it's the easiest thing in the world to find competent leadership may I remind everyone Sony is a multinational conglomerate corporation with a current market cap around 18 billion USD. Sony absolutely dwarfs MtGox, and yet:
PlayStation Network hack: why it took Sony seven days to tell the world
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Sony has admitted that it shut down its PlayStation Network last week because it discovered a "non-gaming" intrusion into the system, but had not realised until late on Tuesday – following forensic security testing – that the breach had led to the theft of the data of the 77 million users
Sony PS3 Hacked (again): All Future Games Decryptable, No Solution Possible
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Sony has another public image meltdown on its hands. According to a report by Playstationlifestyle.net, a group of hackers known as ‘The Three Musketeers’ claim to have discovered a security key that could potentially make all existing consoles able to decrypt current and future games and use custom firmware.
Securing regular data has got to be a hell of a lot easier than securing untraceable bitcoins. Need I mention the recent Target hack resulting in financial and personal data of 110 million shoppers being stolen?
I do believe exchanges should be regulated, but just enough so there is not any tempering and misuse. I there are a lot of greedy people if you give them money there is a change they will gamble it and you will never see it again. Other than that there should be no other regulations.
Customers arent scammers.
I didn't say customers are scammers, I said new customers bring the money to the scammers.And if the customers wanna see 100% of their money this is what has to happen.
That is a fair point but you don't know it'll work. They might just mess up again and lose even more money in the process. In my opinion they should just use the assets they do have to pay back their customers in the fairest manner possible and then call it a day. the new people bring the life to the industry
What you mean is that new people bring the money to the scammers...Get rid of the CEO & have a new team & no problem
That's exactly what people said last time they did this. Do we really need to go through it one more time?Customers arent scammers.
And if the customers wanna see 100% of their money this is what has to happen.
I support removal of old gox team. Its kinda irrelevant to argue anyway, it will either happen or not.
the new people bring the life to the industry
What you mean is that new people bring the money to the scammers...Get rid of the CEO & have a new team & no problem
That's exactly what people said last time they did this. Do we really need to go through it one more time?
I don't think this is realistic, and is probably fake.
Karpeles is going to be a wanted man, lots of people have lost money, and will be knocking on the doors of whoever is associated with him or MtGox. Nobody will be willing to stick their neck out that far. Just won't happen, sorry.
Edit: If it is true (Mtgox changed their source code), then people will still need to be reimbursed.
Karpeles is going to be a wanted man, lots of people have lost money, and will be knocking on the doors of whoever is associated with him or MtGox. Nobody will be willing to stick their neck out that far. Just won't happen, sorry.
Edit: If it is true (Mtgox changed their source code), then people will still need to be reimbursed.
well written, but i think the name Gox has been too tainted by this to ever be taken serious again in the older community
gox is fine, fulltiltpoker was bought by pokerstars & runs no problem. many brands have recovered
New people come into bitcoin all the time, i dont think its an issue honestly, most just google 'buy bitcoins' - the new people bring the life to the industry
Get rid of the CEO & have a new team & no problem
Imma have to stop you right there.
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I have to say that the real 'community', aka frequent visitors to this forum and the subreddit saw this coming MONTHS ago and this was all generally expected. I myself pulled out my 5 BTC from btc-e recently @ $750 and planning to buy back in shortly. I am not a professional trader at all and to me this seemed like the obvious thing to do...
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No. Gox needs to die. Mark may be the most incompetent CEO but he's not the one who programmed their systems. He's also not the one that sends out confusing and piss-poor excuse of 'customer support'. He's also not the one who handles the interaction between authorities and banks. Their whole team is useless and needs to die in a fire together so we can move on as 'a community'. I am SURE there are angels and intelligent being somewhere in there, and I would shield them and herd them away from the other gox taint. As for their 'profitable business', that profit and surplus will be picked up by competent exchanges. There is no 'loss' to the community at all.
3. That document has not been officially validated. To me, it's just some random doc someone drafted up with maybe one page and one fact being real (maybe).
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The other stuff I actually agree with you on. Carry on preaching.
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The magnitude of this has caught a lot of the community off guard
I have to say that the real 'community', aka frequent visitors to this forum and the subreddit saw this coming MONTHS ago and this was all generally expected. I myself pulled out my 5 BTC from btc-e recently @ $750 and planning to buy back in shortly. I am not a professional trader at all and to me this seemed like the obvious thing to do...
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...re-branded as "Gox". This is a big positive for our community,...
No. Gox needs to die. Mark may be the most incompetent CEO but he's not the one who programmed their systems. He's also not the one that sends out confusing and piss-poor excuse of 'customer support'. He's also not the one who handles the interaction between authorities and banks. Their whole team is useless and needs to die in a fire together so we can move on as 'a community'. I am SURE there are angels and intelligent being somewhere in there, and I would shield them and herd them away from the other gox taint. As for their 'profitable business', that profit and surplus will be picked up by competent exchanges. There is no 'loss' to the community at all.
3. That document has not been officially validated. To me, it's just some random doc someone drafted up with maybe one page and one fact being real (maybe).
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The other stuff I actually agree with you on. Carry on preaching.
+1000 Gox should be liquidated,if possible & repay ALL accounts!!!!! & NEVER come back online!!!!!!!!!!!
Every SINGLE CRASH has had GOX in it in a big way!!!!!!!!!
Imma have to stop you right there.
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I have to say that the real 'community', aka frequent visitors to this forum and the subreddit saw this coming MONTHS ago and this was all generally expected. I myself pulled out my 5 BTC from btc-e recently @ $750 and planning to buy back in shortly. I am not a professional trader at all and to me this seemed like the obvious thing to do...
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The magnitude of this has caught a lot of the community off guard
I have to say that the real 'community', aka frequent visitors to this forum and the subreddit saw this coming MONTHS ago and this was all generally expected. I myself pulled out my 5 BTC from btc-e recently @ $750 and planning to buy back in shortly. I am not a professional trader at all and to me this seemed like the obvious thing to do...
If you look at BTC-e.com price charts right now you'll see what I mean by the magnitude of this catching people off guard.
Certainly people have been speculating about the solvency of MtGox for quite some time. They've had known seizures by the US DHS totaling millions. Still, MtGox at one point was signing up 20K new users per day, and had substantial trade volume. While their finances could have taken hits, it seemed reasonable they could survive over the longer term. I myself rationalized they were profiting from Bitcoin since before it was $0.50 each. Surely they had a amassed a lot of BTC which had now increased substantially quite apart from their normal business profit.
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No. Gox needs to die. Mark may be the most incompetent CEO but he's not the one who programmed their systems.
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...re-branded as "Gox". This is a big positive for our community,...
No. Gox needs to die. Mark may be the most incompetent CEO but he's not the one who programmed their systems.
He was the CEO. Ultimately the buck stopped with him. All of the successes or failures are direct results of his decisions (or lack thereof). Anyone with money tied up in MtGox would disagree with you they should disappear entirely.
3. That document has not been officially validated. To me, it's just some random doc someone drafted up with maybe one page and one fact being real (maybe).
That's why I used the word "appears" in my post. Regardless, we can choose to try and make the best of the situation or wallow in despair. My post reflects my preference and advice.
well written, but i think the name Gox has been too tainted by this to ever be taken serious again in the older community
gox is fine, fulltiltpoker was bought by pokerstars & runs no problem. many brands have recovered
MtGox not being able to handle a DDOS caused the price to crash about 50% almost a year ago.
MtGox stopped allowing people to withdraw fiat from the exchange.
MtGox stopped allowing people to withdraw bitcoins from the exchange.
Fool me once...
MtGox stopped allowing people to withdraw fiat from the exchange.
MtGox stopped allowing people to withdraw bitcoins from the exchange.
Fool me once...
i stopped at the word "community".
Thankfully had no money on gox, let them die!
the plan is to return all customer money?
Lol I cant move on because I have no money left but I guess I can do some peaceful reflection or something.
well written, but i think the name Gox has been too tainted by this to ever be taken serious again in the older community
gox is fine, fulltiltpoker was bought by pokerstars & runs no problem. many brands have recovered
well written, but i think the name Gox has been too tainted by this to ever be taken serious again in the older community
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