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sr. member
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February 26, 2016, 11:22:56 AM
I'm not yet 30, and have pretty much been listening to the same 5 CDs on crappy USB speakers since high school.

The problem is ... when you were in high school there wasn't any good music!   So I feel for you.

 I do concede that the majority of what I like to listen to is from the 70s, 60s, and 80s though - what most folks would call "Classic Rock" for the most part, with some oddball and off-the-wall groups thrown into the mix (Moxy Fruvous anyone?)....


I was just poking at SH.  My preference is also in the classic rock category, however I have a soft spot for some of the alternative / grunge stuff too Smiley
legendary
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-> morgen, ist heute, schon gestern <-
February 26, 2016, 10:32:08 AM
Real records (Vinyl) is still a big business with many current artists releasing on Vinyl as well as the usual media and a few have done releases on Vinyl only.

Over New Years in New Orleans my GF and I spent $264 at http://www.peachesrecordsandtapes.com/ . There is a lot of new pressings of old albums, from the greats like Led Zeplin, Deep Purple, ect. to just about any genre there is. One record we got was a new pressing of harmonica tunes from the 1920's. A few others records we got is some mighty fine classic Blues Smiley My turntable is a Technics manual direct drive I got in the early 70's, a Heathkit preamp and 2 Tigersaurus 250w mono-channel amps I built. http://www.tigersthatroar.com/?page_id=59
 System is still in many ways equal to the best you can get even today unless you spend the kind of $$$$ on the stuff posted earlier Smiley Smiley

I have a nice german dual record player  and quite a few old and new vinyl records.

I have had 50k worth of audio gear pass into and out of my home.

I used to live on audiogon buying fixing old amps.

Ebay and many other audio sites.

I am curios about what kind of DUAL you've got.
Got it the 33 /45 & 78 Speed as well?
If you ever need spares for it, let me know!

legendary
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February 26, 2016, 03:38:49 AM
I'm not yet 30, and have pretty much been listening to the same 5 CDs on crappy USB speakers since high school.

The problem is ... when you were in high school there wasn't any good music!   So I feel for you.

 3 Doors Down.
 Amanda Marshall.

 Just to name TWO excellent music makers from the early 2000s.

 I do concede that the majority of what I like to listen to is from the 70s, 60s, and 80s though - what most folks would call "Classic Rock" for the most part, with some oddball and off-the-wall groups thrown into the mix (Moxy Fruvous anyone?)....



 
 I wonder if there are more Gridseed 80 blade HS floating around than Antminer S1/S3/S5 ones - though I suspect the answer is probably "no", I also suspect a lot of the S5s and a few of the S3s and S1s are still in use. I also wonder how hard it would be to make a board that fit ALL of those options.

full member
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February 25, 2016, 01:19:35 PM
It hasn't gotten any better since then. Give me some 80's metal.

Also give me Bitfury chips, but you know, in a couple weeks.
I'm rised with 80's metal , but I'm fan of  90's rock
Bitfury chips for me too, please Cheesy
legendary
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Coins, Games & Miners
February 25, 2016, 11:15:34 AM
It hasn't gotten any better since then. Give me some 80's metal.

Also give me Bitfury chips, but you know, in a couple weeks.

Hey! there's some respectable NuMetal from the 90's....

OTOH, picture this: Pods with Bitfury's... ooh my
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
February 25, 2016, 10:18:35 AM
It hasn't gotten any better since then. Give me some 80's metal.

Also give me Bitfury chips, but you know, in a couple weeks.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
February 25, 2016, 10:17:31 AM
I'm not yet 30, and have pretty much been listening to the same 5 CDs on crappy USB speakers since high school.

The problem is ... when you were in high school there wasn't any good music!   So I feel for you.
alh
legendary
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February 24, 2016, 05:41:13 PM
I'm not yet 30, and have pretty much been listening to the same 5 CDs on crappy USB speakers since high school.

Then I would suggest you don't change your title to "Audiophile".....  Smiley
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
February 24, 2016, 05:29:37 PM
I'm not yet 30, and have pretty much been listening to the same 5 CDs on crappy USB speakers since high school.
legendary
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'The right to privacy matters'
February 24, 2016, 05:11:28 PM
Real records (Vinyl) is still a big business with many current artists releasing on Vinyl as well as the usual media and a few have done releases on Vinyl only.

Over New Years in New Orleans my GF and I spent $264 at http://www.peachesrecordsandtapes.com/ . There is a lot of new pressings of old albums, from the greats like Led Zeplin, Deep Purple, ect. to just about any genre there is. One record we got was a new pressing of harmonica tunes from the 1920's. A few others records we got is some mighty fine classic Blues Smiley My turntable is a Technics manual direct drive I got in the early 70's, a Heathkit preamp and 2 Tigersaurus 250w mono-channel amps I built. http://www.tigersthatroar.com/?page_id=59
 System is still in many ways equal to the best you can get even today unless you spend the kind of $$$$ on the stuff posted earlier Smiley Smiley

I have a nice german dual record player  and quite a few old and new vinyl records.

I have had 50k worth of audio gear pass into and out of my home.

I used to live on audiogon buying fixing old amps.

Ebay and many other audio sites.
legendary
Activity: 3822
Merit: 2703
Evil beware: We have waffles!
February 24, 2016, 04:45:23 PM
Real records (Vinyl) is still a big business with many current artists releasing on Vinyl as well as the usual media and a few have done releases on Vinyl only.

Over New Years in New Orleans my GF and I spent $264 at http://www.peachesrecordsandtapes.com/ . There is a lot of new pressings of old albums, from the greats like Led Zeplin, Deep Purple, ect. to just about any genre there is. One record we got was a new pressing of harmonica tunes from the 1920's. A few others records we got is some mighty fine classic Blues Smiley My turntable is a Technics manual direct drive I got in the early 70's, a Heathkit preamp feeding 2 Tigersaurus 250w mono-channel amps I built. http://www.tigersthatroar.com/?page_id=59
 System is still in many ways equal to the best you can get even today unless you spend the kind of $$$$ on the stuff posted earlier Smiley Smiley
legendary
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February 24, 2016, 03:41:44 PM
but if a little guy is willing to bargain with the big guy and in most caes all most all ways gets a deal , and wants  to produce for the lower end that's not good ?. as others have said everyone makes out in this case and some were down the road the little guy might be a investor to the big guy because he saw it.++ other good things.


I know of industry turntables i meant i guess you can go out and buy one still , when i had  Vinyl records, i paid 500 bucks one time for a turn table so i could hear johnny winter or his bro but i had no idea they cost 100 k.i even used to buy a 60 dollar bottle of record protector that worked . i remember the days of adjusting the needle just right so it did not mess up the vinyl those were the good ole days a lot here have never lived.
legendary
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February 24, 2016, 02:50:34 PM
You left out the turntables.

Some of those bad boys can cost over 100k$. Love the ones with 4 tonearms. Prolly each for playing the owners specific type of record or music I guess. Toss in 4 of those 20k$ pickups ya linked to, woof...

Must be nice to find and supply a market like that....
For some this is probably just a status symbol. For professionals multiple tonearms are just a time-saving convenience. Precisely adjusting a tone-arm & cartridge combo takes time. Vinyl records didn't precisely follow standards and on top of it needles&cartridges react differently to different kinds of wear of the groove and warping of the whole record.

Here's an example of a high-end transcription turntable with optical contactless pickup:

https://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/2014/04/05/pushing-back-silence-new-technology-and-battle-save-old-recordings/8ccQ3EPHdc7TI6GnxK8QtM/story.html

I couldn't find pictures of the US Library of Congress vinyl record transcription setups, that one will have to do.

There's a big difference between those niche markets for electronics and Bitcoin mining.

If somebody is capable of producing a top-performing money printing machine he is also capable of running it at the top performance in his own garage. He doesn't need to sell it to the owners of other garages. He's also capable of buying another garage where price of electricity is cheaper than his original garage.

On the other hands vendors of gold pans and shovels couldn't profitably employ them in their own garage. They had to sell them to those willing to carry them up the mountains in Klondike.

So almost by definition the ASIC vendor is forced to either: (a) self-mine or (b) find a buyer who will willingly overpay. The other profitable strategy is to sabotage competitor's mines. One way to make buyer overpay is deprive the buyer from the full and correct documentation of the sold ASIC.

This is the essence of the difference between a niche and a niche market.

legendary
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February 24, 2016, 01:46:58 PM
You left out the turntables. https://www.google.com/search?q=audiophile+turntable&tbm=isch&imgil=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%253A%253BQmX2Kwxn5zxeFM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.dagogo.com%25252Famg-viella-v12-turntable-review&source=iu&pf=m&fir=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%253A%252CQmX2Kwxn5zxeFM%252C_&usg=__AtcSIlEJ08EseIYih8JOxRSgKWM%3D&biw=1399&bih=881&ved=0ahUKEwiEn-fV_ZDLAhVDn4MKHX-KDz0QyjcIWw&ei=9e_NVsTQFsO-jgT_lL7oAw#imgrc=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%3A
Some of those bad boys can cost over 100k$. Love the ones with 4 tonearms. Prolly each for playing the owners specific type of record or music I guess. Toss in 4 of those 20k$ pickups ya linked to, woof...

Must be nice to find and supply a market like that....


I had no idea turntables were still there and cost so much  are they used mostly for live rape?  sense all the media in stores is either in CD Or DVD form these days unless you go to a used record store and yea there are still some of those around .
I know in a recording studio they kind of use custom turn tables.  

Thanks sidehack

for being there that can't be said enough.


cya.
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
February 24, 2016, 01:25:46 PM
I like serving niche markets and also specifically not overcharging.
hero member
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February 24, 2016, 01:18:13 PM
A little late to the discussion but very pleased to hear Notfuzzywarm and jstefanop are in talks with sidehack.  Great pool of minds and collective..   Wink
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
February 24, 2016, 01:03:12 PM
You left out the turntables. https://www.google.com/search?q=audiophile+turntable&tbm=isch&imgil=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%253A%253BQmX2Kwxn5zxeFM%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fwww.dagogo.com%25252Famg-viella-v12-turntable-review&source=iu&pf=m&fir=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%253A%252CQmX2Kwxn5zxeFM%252C_&usg=__AtcSIlEJ08EseIYih8JOxRSgKWM%3D&biw=1399&bih=881&ved=0ahUKEwiEn-fV_ZDLAhVDn4MKHX-KDz0QyjcIWw&ei=9e_NVsTQFsO-jgT_lL7oAw#imgrc=yR8ZGCJ59_gEhM%3A
Some of those bad boys can cost over 100k$. Love the ones with 4 tonearms. Prolly each for playing the owners specific type of record or music I guess. Toss in 4 of those 20k$ pickups ya linked to, woof...

Must be nice to find and supply a market like that....
legendary
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February 24, 2016, 12:47:19 PM
As always, when there's a market, there's opportunity, and there's little to no presence on the low-volume, low-tech requirement part of the market.
The "hobby miner" is about the same market opportunity as the impoverished compulsive gamblers converging on the racetrack on the race days. When I was a kid I had to transfer between buses on a stop right in front of the racetrack. I remember the type very well: their grim determination, the fantabulous stories they were telling each other: how they are going to buy or breed a horse who will win the race for them; how in some distant city there's a racetrack that offers the odds that are less of a rip-off; how they instead of buying tip-sheet will start publishing a tip-sheet; etc.

This place is like that racetrack, except that the racetrack wouldn't let in those who are underage.

The niche markets in obsolete electronics exist when buyers have money. Here's an example for the those with a fetish for obsolete electronics: hand-wound moving-coil phonograph record pickups from Koetsu: http://www.elusivedisc.com/Koetsu/products/248/ ranging in price from $19,949.99 for Blue Lace Platinum

to the pedestrian $2,495.00 for Black Goldline

You could then play your treasured vintage vinyl records through a vacuum tube amplifier from
McIntosh Labs http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Products/pages/ProductDetails.aspx?ProductId=MC275B

.

But here nobody has significant money, thus it is a niche, but not a market.

That picture is from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bootleg_mining, but much better article is under https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artisanal_mining .
legendary
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Curmudgeonly hardware guy
February 24, 2016, 12:27:27 PM
Yeah. I like the 10W/chip neighborhood but that pretty much requires a belly pad or a really big chip. I also like pins (makes verifying connections so very easy, and 95% of the problems I have with Compac assembly are ASIC connections), so something like a QFP with a pad would be nice.
legendary
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Evil beware: We have waffles!
February 24, 2016, 12:14:43 PM
I've seen TSSOP and QFP with belly pads.
Good to learn something new. Makes sense since there is all that otherwise unused real estate under it.
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