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Quote from: lasvegas83 on February 29, 2016, 08:17:38 AM

PoSA3 will do it!

Cloak is a real anon coin Wink

Can you tell me release date?
Now when SDC having code problems, and DASH going slowly down with constant attacks.
I hope we can see surprises in Anonymous section.

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https://cloakcoin.com

PoSA3 will do it!

Cloak is a real anon coin Wink

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Quote from: CryptocurrencyNetwork on February 03, 2016, 08:44:30 AM

VERGE aka Dogecoindark.

Take note.

Download anonymously, trade anonymously, transact anonymously.

Dev has done a ton of work and is still working at it - everyday.

Verge/XVG

great project

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VERGE aka Dogecoindark.

Take note.

Download anonymously, trade anonymously, transact anonymously.

Dev has done a ton of work and is still working at it - everyday.

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CLOAK Trustless Anonymous Cryptocurrency

Quote from: LucyLovesCrypto on February 01, 2016, 05:01:26 PM

In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.

Yes that is true,but from the end of 2014 cloak has new team that works very well.
We have new whitepaper PoSA3 http://cloakcoin.com/downloads/posa3wp.pdf
and security audit of code http://www.cloakcoin.com/downloads/PoSA3_Audit_Report.pdf
Also we have successfully carried out of PoSA3 Beta Test #1, in wich we could not find the transaction to the sender
http://forum.cloakcoin.com/threads/posa3-beta-test-1.37/
So after the realization of PoSA3 wallet which will be soon,with what cloak will is different from dash or monero like anonymous?
It is very possible is better than them. And easy to use from the people.Cloak will be undervauled or they are overvauled?
2016 will be an exciting year for cloak and anonymity.

Chears

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Cloakcoin now is something different from that coin in 2014 year.
Now have real development and great support from community.
Did you see their new forum?
http://forum.cloakcoin.com/
You can buy cloak via paypal.

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Money often costs too much.

Quote from: LucyLovesCrypto on February 01, 2016, 05:01:26 PM

Quote from: wizardee on February 01, 2016, 02:31:06 PM

Quote from: arbitrage on February 01, 2016, 11:11:21 AM

Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

I bet it will!

In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.

Is there an opportunity for a leveraged bet against CLOAK, anywhere? Just that would apply for each and every altcoin, so probably not.

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Quote from: wizardee on February 01, 2016, 02:31:06 PM

Quote from: arbitrage on February 01, 2016, 11:11:21 AM

Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

I bet it will!

In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.

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Quote from: arbitrage on February 01, 2016, 11:11:21 AM

Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

I bet it will!

arbitrage

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Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

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Quote from: TPTB_need_war on February 01, 2016, 07:13:32 AM

All crypto coins to date other than Bitcoin are 100% premined, because they have no users.

I view blatant hyperbole not as fact but as posturing. If you have a cogent argument to make, it's as well to make it coherent too.

Cheers

Graham

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Quote from: e-coinomist on February 01, 2016, 01:08:03 AM

Quote from: gjhiggins on January 15, 2016, 08:38:34 AM

I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features.

That is a very nice list and I (and everybody) are appreciating your work Graham, but did you ever considered to add another row reflecting the individual coin's value? Or lack of, valuelessness actually, all of them are worthless from value or marketcap. Some even got labelled "scamcoin" occasionally, just pump and dump bags remaining.

Thanks for the kind words, it's good to know that the work is gaining some favourable views.

I'm personally gratified that thus far I've (mostly) successfully managed to keep my prejudices to myself while working on DOACC, (Minki’s web site is merely a set of HTML renderings of different views of the DOACC RDF graph).

The initial list of anon coins now has a rendering on Minkiz: https://minkiz.co/coin/anon

But no, I've never had any intention of adding a “value” relation - for two reasons that I find very compelling:

1. I don't have a good enough model to explain adequately some of the more challenging anomalies in the domain (read “a small herd of elephants rampaging around the middle of the room”). You've already identified one of them: adequately explaining Bitcoin's primacy. Others include the uniqueness of the Shibes, the implausibly steep curve of the BTC volume long tail, the persistence of unwarranted hope in hodlers and bagholders.
2. A purely idiosyncratic assessment is pretty much guaranteed to engender resentment. Unfortunately, given the chimera of a consensus definition (in common with “beauty”, “value” is in the eyes of the beholder), an idiosyncratic assessment is the only option. So, I focus on facts and supportable inference and let the results speak to the issues.

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Doesn't the fact feel intrigueing that this "not anonymous" Bitcoin totally rules the scene? Always has been good enough for every possible kind of use case? Almost all coins listed above are not even accepted on distinctive tradesites?

These are all good questions/points. As you observe, they're also persistent. This piques my curiosity so I'm rootling around to see if I can get some insights by applying techniques from cognitive science.

I've made some progress on the semi-automated list, at least for the top marketcap PoS coins: http://minkiz.co/coin/cmcap-pos, I intend to migrate the list to the COINZ section, once I've polished it up a bit and checked the results.

Cheers

Graham

Edit: updated URL to point to new location

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Quote from: gjhiggins on January 19, 2016, 11:25:28 AM

For each altcoin, DOACC attempts to record:

premine - the amount of any premine

All crypto coins to date other than Bitcoin are 100% premined, because they have no users. Speculators mining the shit out of shitcoins with no users is effectively a premine against any future widespread adoption.

For that matter, Bitcoin was 95% premined also given by the time it had significant users it was being mined by ASICs mostly by the Chinese mining farms.

Quote from: gjhiggins on January 19, 2016, 11:25:28 AM

masturbation - the maturation time of ~~newly-minted blocks~~the P&D

ftfy

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Quote from: pavan@hosur on January 31, 2016, 10:15:52 PM

Which coin is working perfectly with Anon... reply me quickly

Bitcoin.

Quote from: gjhiggins on January 15, 2016, 08:38:34 AM

I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features. As “anon” is programmatically challenging and the characterisation is significant in the domain, a bit of hand-stitching is tolerable. Here's what I have thus far ...

name_symbol_as_bctlink,	blockchain_state,	incept_YYYY-M,	“anon”_features.

Cheers

Graham

That is a very nice list and I (and everybody) are appreciating your work Graham, but did you ever considered to add another row reflecting the individual coin's value? Or lack of, valuelessness actually, all of them are worthless from value or marketcap. Some even got labelled "scamcoin" occasionally, just pump and dump bags remaining.

Doesn't the fact feel intrigueing that this "not anonymous" Bitcoin totally rules the scene? Always has been good enough for every possible kind of use case? Almost all coins listed above are not even accepted on distinctive tradesites?

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Which coin is working perfectly with Anon... reply me quickly

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Quote from: mudiko on January 18, 2016, 09:45:36 AM

Quote from: gjhiggins on January 15, 2016, 08:38:34 AM

I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features.

Cool list. I think it could be perfect, if we had a topic to compare features and how they are used in alt-coins

Something like this?: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13484427

(and the three following posts)

Here's the current feature set, including the “anon” features, rendered in N3. The next step is to hack up some code to inspect and report on repository content and ultimately derive a feature set from the data, mostly satisfying BitcoinNational's requirement.

Code:

@prefix dc:  .
@prefix doacc:  .
@prefix rdfs:  .
@prefix skos:  .
@prefix foaf:  .
@prefix owl:  .

doacc:Dcbd6cd89-dd4b-4350-9827-2a7c6a073df9 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Zerocoin was initially proposed as an extension to add true cryptographic anonymity ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "zerocoin"@en .

doacc:D524d6200-09b3-4607-a47b-e02a8e72db85 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymous facility"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "anon"@en .

doacc:D38b9e224-7490-4424-8182-74ec5dd76fa5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Encrypted messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "encrypted messaging"@en .

doacc:Ddfe4de7a-d688-4ca5-8743-4c03f2861b16 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Encrypted chat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "encrypted chat"@en .

doacc:Dfe415608-22ec-4abb-8453-179b83ae51bc a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    owl:sameAs  ;
    skos:prefLabel "tor"@en .

doacc:Ddcdd9f05-b977-4911-8c4e-f0d0049aa462 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "I2P is an anonymous network, exposing a simple layer that applications can use to anonymously..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    owl:sameAs  ;
    skos:prefLabel "i2p"@en .

doacc:D490f13de-0400-47dd-8e6a-d39cff3d4ddb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymous chat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "anon chat"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Stealth addresses"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealth addresses"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Multi-platform anonymous cryptographic SMS transaction sending technology..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealthtext"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Cryptograhic blockchain analysis resistance and obfuscation technology on the..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealthsend"@en .

doacc:Dbb59764d-fc10-4407-a11c-80f6156dee34 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Blockchain inscription, 24-character limit"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "char[24]"@en .

doacc:D00a7c073-3ccf-403b-bcdb-e0c3887b32e8 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Cloak implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "cloak"@en .

doacc:D89b123e6-e8a7-49b0-b760-a1b1f0de74d4 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Aspiring to anonymous faeatures"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "aim"@en .

doacc:D428b68ae-3b9b-419f-a71f-902ef78a2cc5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "The CoinJoin-inspired dark* performs mixing with selected “masternodes” ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "dark"@en .

doacc:Dcfd6eb63-0bb6-4725-b727-83347f6817cb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses CryptoNote protocol"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    owl:sameAs  ;
    skos:prefLabel "cryptonote"@en .

doacc:Ddfa006a5-3143-414f-bc76-6ff67b7583ac a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "TCP network connections are secured using the Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC) ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "secured protocol"@en .

doacc:Dc638bc03-b495-48cb-9171-e7fb034d802c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "SuperSend Trustless is an advanced p2p completely decentralized anonymous system..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "super"@en .

doacc:Dc638bc03-b495-48cb-9171-e7fb034d802c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Cryptonite"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "nite"@en .

doacc:Da3efdd95-7c34-4dba-b3f4-4446849d058d a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Teleport is a set of blockchain technologies built on top of Bitcoin Dark (BTCD), ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "teleport"@en .

doacc:Dbb26104b-12fc-4a53-82f1-d94d8c4b8d51 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "CoinJoin is an anonymization method for bitcoin transactions proposed by Gregory Maxwell..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    foaf:page  ;
    skos:prefLabel "coinjoin"@en .

doacc:D6e937391-180e-4a30-b1aa-f54fbc102e65 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Burst transaction is a built-in algorithm that allows the user to divide a transaction ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    foaf:page  ;
    skos:prefLabel "bursttx"@en .

doacc:D9f29ed28-1353-468b-af7a-fe2b70f208c3 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "A multi-signature address is an address that is associated with more than one ECDSA ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    foaf:page  ;
    skos:prefLabel "multisig"@en .

doacc:D7f4471a2-9f19-4b3a-b584-35c3cc62f5f6 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Zero-Knowledge Proof: In cryptography, a zero-knowledge proof or zero-knowledge protocol ..."@en ;
    rdfs:comment "Zero-Knowledge Proof is a very new, very speculative field with few if any academic research ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    owl:sameAs  ;
    skos:prefLabel "zkp"@en .

doacc:D6893e506-b166-4d9d-b28e-fa205a60fc0e a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "In cryptography, a ring signature is a type of digital signature that can be performed by any ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    owl:sameAs  ;
    skos:prefLabel "ring signature"@en .

doacc:D6ad4f544-b664-41fb-befa-20a1edfc3ec2 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "SonicVortex V2.0 is a way to hide encrypted transactions by steganography. You take a picture, ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "vortex"@en .

doacc:D2d587f6d-d082-419c-b680-6c53a354e396 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Confidential transactions are a feature of the Elements experimental client"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "confidential tx"@en .

doacc:D5210d1ba-e7ea-4c86-b67b-e4eefb7858d9 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Counterparty implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "counterparty"@en .

doacc:Dac65a7cb-5937-458b-9ce1-921ec2616f8e a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Dash implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "dash"@en .

doacc:Db21b3cfc-e7e1-41bc-961e-15ba0832da9f a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymised transactions via sending through a delegate mixer"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "delegate"@en .

doacc:Dd25e8125-d697-4215-8df2-32a3fea8249d a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Transactions anonymised via sending through a mixer"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "mixer"@en .

doacc:D70c14962-85f9-489d-ae8b-621d3a3785d4 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Multiple signatures"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "multisig"@en .

doacc:D960aec4c-e103-46ea-9d53-81a2e3d3c2ac a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses NXT implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "nxt"@en .

doacc:D09ed8154-2708-4c8a-b347-4b9b15df117a a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Secure messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "secure messaging"@en .

doacc:Dd707fd92-3224-4b45-9b2e-1df0ce9a74bb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Shadow implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "shadow"@en .

doacc:D10cb5f38-ea01-4116-937c-af5e913bd3b5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Shadowchat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "shadowchat"@en .

doacc:Df212fa7d-cb96-4a6e-bf27-f7da007c834c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Stealth messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy  ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealth messaging"@en .

DOACC is an altcoin catalogue expressed in RDF and the features described above can be combined with the DOACC altcoin metadata and is amenable to SPARQL querying so people can generate their own permutations of lists.

For each altcoin, DOACC attempts to record:

name - the name of the coin
ticker - the stock ticker
protocol - the network protocol
protectionscheme - how the chain is protected
incept - YYYY-MM of announcement
date_founded - the date that the coin was announced
block_time - the block time in seconds
powscheme - the hashing scheme
block_reward - the block reward
reward_modifier - the reward halving/modification scheme
premine - the amount of any premine
total_coins - the total number of coins
retarget_time - the block target time
website - the coin’s web site
source - the location of the source code
posscheme - the type of PoS scheme used
confirmations - the number of confirmations recommended
maturation - the maturation time of newly-minted blocks
distributionscheme - the scheme by which the coin was distributed

But the older data is often much more sparse.

I have an experimental version of the graph that cross-references each coinmarketcap.com-listed coin with the corresponding marketcap, volume, price etc in the coinmarketcap.com listings so I can also use those values as filters.

Cheers

Graham
Edit: truncated the dc:description string, for sanity

arbitrage

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Yes cross testing and reviewing will be something extra!
But that needs someone with more experience..
So if anyone has idea or want to take lead ?

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Monero have a great community and lots of supporters?
l have a filing it could be a winner!

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This is very hard question, because not all altcoins are developed enough at one level. I think Monero can be one of best altcoins in the market Wink

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