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January 12, 2016, 02:20:36 AM
#19
Thanks for very good posts- view from a different angle. Smiley
#EBK1000
#Spoetnik


Bitcoin was first and new way of thinking revolutionary way like first car or plane.
Best of that idea is DECENTRALIZATION, and ANONYMITY..
l believe in near future we will see more wonders of coding mixed with technology with purpose to  overcome boundaries and chains of fiat money..
legendary
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A Wound in Eternity
January 12, 2016, 12:59:56 AM
#18
Just a couple of thoughts on anonymity online. What you are trying to do with various anonymity features is to prevent anyone from being able to identify you by obtaining your real IP address and to prevent anyone from finding out who sent what to who. Cryptos like Dash and Monero and others have proposed to offer anonymity in some way or another but has never been tested against the US NSA or FBI properly.

Although the Bitcoin block-chain is public, nobody watching the block-chain transactions will be able to see who is sending Bitcoin to who and most importantly WHY the Bitcoins are being sent? Under normal circumstances, this information is only available if the two parties making the transaction make it public. Therefore Bitcoin and others are ‘anonymous enough’ for real world usage.

However, I think that you should always assume that a persistent, knowledgeable and motivated attacker will be able to associate your IP address with your crypto transactions. Sophisticated statistical analysis would also probably be able to resolve transactions on so-called anonymous networks.
 Anonymity is relative. You should therefore assume that if a state power put all their resources into tracing you they would be able to do so, even if you use the anonymity features of some crypto-currencies. You may remember that many so called 'dark web' sites on the Tor network were traced recently and that there are numerous examples of very high level hacking and breaking of various encryption protocols probably by a state power.

Also, and this is important, you should assume that a state power will NOT reveal the extent of their available technology and will NOT reveal what they can and can't do with regards to encryption etc.. If they are able to break encryption they will NOT tell you.

 So, the questions you will have to ask yourself with regards to anonymity are; are my activities of such a nature that they will attract the attention of a state power (motivated attacker) and are my activities of such a nature that would prompt a state power (motivated attacker) to invest significant resources to track me down?

If you are involved in 'normal' activities however you will be ‘anonymous enough’ with Bitcoin. I believe that the anonymity features in other crypto-currencies are hyped up as a selling point and the vast majority of people do not need it because they are of no interest to a ‘sophisticated motivated attacker’ or a well-funded state power.

This is why criminals still use Bitcoins and this is why Bitcoin still rules on Tor, it's anonymous enough...
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https://bata.io
January 11, 2016, 11:47:40 PM
#17
Just incase you missed it:

BATA (BTA) - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bata-bta-old-thread-now-httpsbitcointalkorgindexphptopic-22978950-1040956
                  - http://bata.io

Optional Anonymity via TOR or I2P

POW SCRYPT DGW - 5 Million BTA Total
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the grandpa of cryptos
January 11, 2016, 11:21:15 PM
#16
add TX and DOGED
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https://bata.io
January 11, 2016, 11:08:56 PM
#15
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January 11, 2016, 10:33:38 PM
#14
Bitcoin was adopted because lot of people believed transactions are not
traceable, so first motive was anon trading em l wrong?
So future belongs to those who deliver best anonymous transactions and if possible decentralized markets..

You think BTC got big because it was perceived to be Anon ?

I think it got big because it was / is a new concept with a lot of perks -combined-
One of them may* have been the "perception" it was a "anon".
But i find it hard to believe that was a major driving force.

I was around and watched it unfold from worthless to over a grand so i know.
untraceable transactions seemed to have no bearing on any of it.

The majority couldn't care less about ANON bullshit and many like myself think..
it's highly detrimental for adoption.

What i did see is many cases where a guy got robbed in Crypto over the years with Bitcoin
and they wanted to track down the thief.. and thanks to traceability a lot of users got their money back.
What i didn't see was guys running around wearing hoodies that say "Bitcoin=Untraceable" on them like Monero idiots DO !

Anon was called out LONG ago in the Alt scene for what it is.. a stupid GIMMICK !

Most of us had said this long and hard for years now.. nothing has changed.
Aside from some users leaving and new idiots showing up.. thinking they can replay the anon gimmick game.

So nub's ..been there and done that and got the hoodie Roll Eyes


There you have it my opinion.. the correct one.. what more do you all want ?
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January 11, 2016, 07:42:50 PM
#12
Bitcoin was adopted because lot of people believed transactions are not
traceable, so first motive was anon trading em l wrong?
So future belongs to those who deliver best anonymous transactions and if possible decentralized markets..
legendary
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Top Crypto Casino
January 11, 2016, 07:02:14 PM
#11
ALL ARE COMPLETE SHITE.

That's all the comparison you need.  And as our astute friend has suggested, all are good ways to launder money.
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Money often costs too much.
January 11, 2016, 06:50:47 PM
#10
Why BTC is best of all? Just because is better adapted?
Have you been able to locate a LTC Mixer? From a technical stance should be the same to implement, any BTC Mixer service could add LTC. The wallets are somewhat compatible regarding API interfaces.


i invest on monero
Since Scrypt ASICS are out there, GPU rigs could take a look at that coin, yes. Mining this altcoin to expand the rig's lifetime somewhat.
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January 11, 2016, 06:41:38 PM
#9
All those coins have very good mixing power , but why they don't have more attention in darknet world? Also l meen why there is LTC stronger (and have much more support) then those coins with greater teach?

Since Mixers got mentioned to mix Bitcoins, does anywhere some LTC Mixing service exist?
That could add 1 answer onto the strength and support for LTC somewhere in the backgrounds.

To my knowledge: No, LTC Mixers don't exist. And the second answer is yes indeed for BTC there are mixing services, so in some way BTC can be declared beeing an "anon coin" which in effect renders all the others mentioned here redundanc, obsolete and unrequired.
Why BTC is best of all? Just because is better adapted?
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January 11, 2016, 06:39:22 PM
#8
i invest on monero
legendary
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Money often costs too much.
January 11, 2016, 06:31:16 PM
#7
All those coins have very good mixing power , but why they don't have more attention in darknet world? Also l meen why there is LTC stronger (and have much more support) then those coins with greater teach?

Since Mixers got mentioned to mix Bitcoins, does anywhere some LTC Mixing service exist?
That could add 1 answer onto the strength and support for LTC somewhere in the backgrounds.

To my knowledge: No, LTC Mixers don't exist. And the second answer is yes indeed for BTC there are mixing services, so in some way BTC can be declared beeing an "anon coin" which in effect renders all the others mentioned here redundant, obsolete and unrequired.
The forecast for 2016 "Year of the Halving": Alts bloodbath
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January 11, 2016, 06:16:26 PM
#6
All those coins have very good mixing power , but why they don't have more attention in darknet world? Also l meen why there is LTC stronger (and have much more support) then those coins with greater teach?
legendary
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January 11, 2016, 06:10:03 PM
#5
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January 11, 2016, 06:09:09 PM
#4
" The process:

Buy the alt coin with Bitcoin
Use the alt coin’s mixing function
Sell the alt coin back for Bitcoin "
 Cheesy
And Here we have best recipe for money lau**ry
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January 11, 2016, 04:28:03 PM
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Posted on behalf of CrypticTrader



Thanks!
 @CrypticTrader
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January 11, 2016, 03:49:04 PM
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                                      Help me to open discussion about anonymous transactions.

                 Cross comparison between anon coins ..

                   Possibilities and features.. Is there a future for Dash , SDC or Monero ?

                    Which system is best?

                    DASH:                 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/anndash-dash-dashorg-first-self-funding-self-governing-crypto-currency-421615
                    SDC:                   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/sdc-shadowcash-welcome-to-the-umbra-745352
                    MONERO:             https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-a-secure-private-untraceable-cryptocurrency-583449
                    CLOAK:                https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=823143.0
                    FIBRE:                  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1320714
                    SILKCOIN:            https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=676976.0
                    NAVCOIN              https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=679791.0
                    ANONCOIN:          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=227287.0
                    DOGECOINDARK:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=770742.280
                    TX:                       https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/txtransfer-bittrex-multipool-android-postormn-stealth-1203975
                    BATA:                   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/bata-bta-old-thread-now-httpsbitcointalkorgindexphptopic-22978950-1040956
                    VERTCOIN:            https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=895020.0
                    SONIC:                 https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ssd-sonic-1st-tor-with-functional-anon-send-steganography-based-anon-app-755180
                    BTS:                     https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-bitshares-20-1084460
                    SUPERCOIN:          https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1006830.0  
                    VERTCOIN:            https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=895020.0        
                    BYTECOIN:            https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=512747.0
                    DIGITALNOTE:       https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-digitalnote-xdn-icco-announce-news-1082745
                    AEON:                   https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-aeon-2019-09-27-upgrade-to-version-01300-asap-hf1146200-oct-25-641696
                    DROIDZ:               https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ann-drz-droidz-anti-instamine-a-fresh-new-start-wallet-updates-1292142
                    NXT:                     NXTFORUM.ORG.

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