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February 21, 2016, 08:54:05 AM
All Coinbase has ever done is spy on people's transactions and kill the magic of using Bitcoin by downloading a wallet and instantly sending/receiving transactions, so of course they would be pro-Bitcoin Classic which is a fork to help goverment spy on your Bitcoins.
Pretty disgusting behavior by this guy, you recognize a loser when he can't take a loss.

Seems it's hard yeah. Don't like what I hears of coinbase anyway.
It'll get less and less used no?
It can't go against the flow until the end of the time!
legendary
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February 21, 2016, 08:32:35 AM
All Coinbase has ever done is spy on people's transactions and kill the magic of using Bitcoin by downloading a wallet and instantly sending/receiving transactions, so of course they would be pro-Bitcoin Classic which is a fork to help goverment spy on your Bitcoins.
Pretty disgusting behavior by this guy, you recognize a loser when he can't take a loss.
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February 21, 2016, 06:04:00 AM
Wow Brian Armstrong is such a jerk!

To me it's looking like he's telling everyone to not agree with consensus simply because he feels it doesn't meet his requirements.
Coinbase is a bank!Let's face it!
And imo Core's roadmap is threatening his business model. That guy is against Lightning Network and especially against confidential transactions as this could hinder Coinbase's ability to track bitcoin uses and therefore to comply to AML regulations.
Coinbase has never been on the same side of Bitcoin nor decentralization as the majority. I've always suspected this, but the strong push from Armstrong towards another implementation just suggests that he is unable to push his own agenda. Even his CTO signed various statements supporting Core roadmaps and whatnot. He does not have adequate knowledge to be able to state that, Segwit as the first solution, would be a mistake (what would he base his opinion on, bias?). He's still trying to push forward the joke that does not even have a proper team of developers. However, this post might cause something similar to this:




Never used Coinbase so can't say much about their practices.
But one thing is sure, being against the flow isn't a bad thing. Refusing a small& consensus isn't exactly a bad thing neither. But not being able to accept a decision taken by the majority isn't normal... At least one's should expect to be let on the side of the road...
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February 21, 2016, 05:56:28 AM
Let's see it in the code this consensus! Before then I am greatly skeptical even though if the miners majority reached this that says it all.
Hope to see some improvements after all the talking.
Btc is not politics but it works sadly the same way
The Segwit code can already be found in Github and there's a test-net for it. They're actively working on it as fast as they can towards the April release. The code for the HF will be available sometime between April and July.

It does not matter too much is the Coinbase run Classic. If no more than 75% of the miners run the classic, it will still be Core.
Nobody should really care anymore about what Brian says.

As an investor I would wait for another few years before I'd put any serious money into Bitcoin, just to see if Bitcoin will not be torn apart by its users before 2018.
If Bitcoin fails, so do all the other (little) experiments.
legendary
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February 21, 2016, 05:54:35 AM
Wow Brian Armstrong is such a jerk!

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/the-bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-proposal-too-little-too-late-e694f13f40b#.4usja7jrj

To me it's looking like he's telling everyone to not agree with consensus simply because he feels it doesn't meet his requirements.
Coinbase is a bank!Let's face it!
And imo Core's roadmap is threatening his business model. That guy is against Lightning Network and especially against confidential transactions as this could hinder Coinbase's ability to track bitcoin uses and therefore to comply to AML regulations.

Brian Strongarm, CEO of CoinBank.

Fuck you!
legendary
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February 21, 2016, 05:46:16 AM
Let's see it in the code this consensus! Before then I am greatly skeptical even though if the miners majority reached this that says it all.
Hope to see some improvements after all the talking.
Btc is not politics but it works sadly the same way
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February 21, 2016, 04:55:24 AM
It does not matter too much is the Coinbase run Classic. If no more than 75% of the miners run the classic, it will still be Core.
legendary
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February 21, 2016, 04:52:18 AM
Wow Brian Armstrong is such a jerk!

To me it's looking like he's telling everyone to not agree with consensus simply because he feels it doesn't meet his requirements.
Coinbase is a bank!Let's face it!
And imo Core's roadmap is threatening his business model. That guy is against Lightning Network and especially against confidential transactions as this could hinder Coinbase's ability to track bitcoin uses and therefore to comply to AML regulations.
Coinbase has never been on the same side of Bitcoin nor decentralization as the majority. I've always suspected this, but the strong push from Armstrong towards another implementation just suggests that he is unable to push his own agenda. Even his CTO signed various statements supporting Core roadmaps and whatnot. He does not have adequate knowledge to be able to state that, Segwit as the first solution, would be a mistake (what would he base his opinion on, bias?). He's still trying to push forward the joke that does not even have a proper team of developers. However, this post might cause something similar to this:



Does this mean all of the major mining pools are in favor of this?
Yes, over 80% of the hashrate.

What is a "female idea"? Why not ask for "ideas" based on race, hair color, age bracket and sexual orientation while you're at it? Ideas stand on their own merits, not the identity of the person proposing them.
Nonsense. It has been proven that the performance of work groups is increased when there is diversity (the more women -> better). That's what the person meant (I hope).

legendary
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February 21, 2016, 04:30:33 AM
#99
Wow Brian Armstrong is such a jerk!

https://medium.com/@barmstrong/the-bitcoin-roundtable-consensus-proposal-too-little-too-late-e694f13f40b#.4usja7jrj

To me it's looking like he's telling everyone to not agree with consensus simply because he feels it doesn't meet his requirements.
Coinbase is a bank!Let's face it!
And imo Core's roadmap is threatening his business model. That guy is against Lightning Network and especially against confidential transactions as this could hinder Coinbase's ability to track bitcoin uses and therefore to comply to AML regulations.
legendary
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February 21, 2016, 04:20:33 AM
#98
It has been about time a solution was found and never understood why some people got overly emotional supporting one side or the other. All of this hate and the way we as a community discussed solutions for a technical issue was a major turn-off. As an investor I would wait for another few years before I'd put any serious money into Bitcoin, just to see if Bitcoin will not be torn apart by its users before 2018.
sr. member
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February 21, 2016, 03:56:51 AM
#97
Looks like the market is taking this as great news!

The price is $440 now. So it is good news for the bitcoin industry and community. I hope the SegWit will be successful.

which is where it was pre Mike Hearn's communique. as this is a China gig i'll say there's been no Great Leap Forward here. the miners make the right signals to protect their halving revenue expectations.

a proposal is timed for July? how convenient. the day after halving? probably.
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 11:36:15 PM
#96
Funny on the picture in OP is that there are only guys. No women at all. I guess some female ideas would be a good step forward.

What is a "female idea"? Why not ask for "ideas" based on race, hair color, age bracket and sexual orientation while you're at it? Ideas stand on their own merits, not the identity of the person proposing them.
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 10:27:30 PM
#95

concensus reached

The only thing that has concensus is that your avatar looks like Eric Cartman.

Delete this, sensorshit.

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February 20, 2016, 08:17:22 PM
#94
Looks promising!  Draft leaked... 

[HKmtg] Now it's 0:30 Beijing time... The final statement is coming very soon.  33m

Statement Draft:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/46qtkz/bitcoin_roundtable_consensus_statement_draft_text/


Hmm whoever posted that seems to have deleted it.



Ok, found this on Bitcoin Roundtable's Medium: "Bitcoin Roundtable Consensus"

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Based on the above points, the timeline will likely follow the below dates.
  • SegWit is expected to be released in April 2016.
  • The code for the hard-fork will therefore be available by July 2016.
  • If there is strong community support, the hard-fork activation will likely happen around July 2017.

This is also signed by Kevin Pan from Antpool. Does this mean all of the major mining pools are in favor of this?

Han Solo also signed this.
sr. member
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February 20, 2016, 08:03:41 PM
#93
I think that this are very good news, consensus is very important we lost so much time discussing about classic, XT, and other variants. Now the bitcoin industry and the bitcoin developers reach an agreement, and give bitcoin a good future.

Well personnaly I lost most of my time trying to figure out wtf was happening xD
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 06:10:53 PM
#92
I think that this are very good news, consensus is very important we lost so much time discussing about classic, XT, and other variants. Now the bitcoin industry and the bitcoin developers reach an agreement, and give bitcoin a good future.
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February 20, 2016, 05:30:35 PM
#91
I'm not entirely sure consensus has been reached.
well it is kinda consensus but all the stuff will happen not in the near future what means it might not happen at all, but at least things are moving now
sr. member
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February 20, 2016, 05:26:36 PM
#90
I'm not entirely sure consensus has been reached.

Why are you saying this? They all say it has!
legendary
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February 20, 2016, 05:16:40 PM
#89
Funny on the picture in OP is that there are only guys. No women at all. I guess some female ideas would be a good step forward.

Ideas don't have gender, but if you must check the social justice box here you go:

http://bravetheworld.com/2016/02/09/faith-bitcoin-restored/

Thanks for reminding me to add that to the Grand Schism Compendium.   Smiley
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February 20, 2016, 05:03:24 PM
#88
Classic should be OK with the agreement

It should stick around as a competing impl.
No. Diseases should be completely exterminated.

No

this agreement is made possible by the credible threat classic represented

we NEED a competing impl

Litecoin is a competing implementation of the Nakamoto Consensus schema described in Satoshi's whitepaper, with its own distinct socioeconomic majority.

Primecoin is another alternative, competing PoW-based distributed consensus.

Classic is a declaration of war, not a competing solution.  Classic's raison d'etre is to "slap" Blockstream and "fire" Core, not increase tps from 3 to 6 tps.

Your 'but muh credurrble threat' talking point was already debunked and demolished by no less than Bram Cohen.  https://medium.com/@bramcohen/double-billing-is-not-healthy-competition-b698c345b11e

Remember him?  He made Bittorrent, which did for antifragile file distribution what Bitcoin does for value, thereby disrupting Napster's centralized approach.

i think you misunderstand?
i'm not saying having Impl.s  create HF  is good
i'm saying when there's a hard choice to be made ( ex. how to scale bitcoin )
miners can threaten to "promote" the Classic Impl. over Core Impl. as the reference impl. because Classic is willing to do what they want.

is this not EXACTLY what happened?

had it not been for the empty threat made by the chinese miners, to switch to classic, would core have conceded to anything at all??? idk...
if you think the answer is "no", then why do you think they use the threat in the first place?
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