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sr. member
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September 14, 2011, 07:00:58 AM
No, we got your point. We just think it is not a good idea. Is that so hard to accept for you? You have an idea, someone else feels it is a bad idea and does not want to join in it.

May I ask what are you doing here then? It's not enough for you to disagree, you want to convince other people to agree with you?

Couldn't you just ignore this thread?

There's a lot of things in life that I *can* do, but don't. Ignoring this thread is one of them. When I see a bad thing happening (or an attempt to it) I feel tempted to post my opinion about it. That is one of the purposes of these forums I think.
I understand that you'd rather not get any negative feedback on your ideas, but that is not the idea of a public forum.

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What I do mind is a forum that is not functional. And in no way I advocate closing this forum.

What exactly is not functional about this forum, and how would your forum be more functional than this one?

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And I was tired of speaking into the void. I got no constructive criticism or ideas. Mostly no useful replies at all. Like I am speaking Latin or some other dead language and people just look at each other: "What did he just said?" "I have no idea." "Yeah, me neither".

No, it was more like people trying to tell you that it was a bad idea and you going: "huh? what did they just say?"

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I speak like I feel. Don't tell me you're a toddler from a kindergarten who can't handle ten fucks in a single post.

Oh I can handle it. It just makes *you* look like a 13 year old brat who doesn't get all the candy he wants.


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Explain please. So far all I've seen were cries about elitists trying to create a place for themselves.

It has been explained to you ten times already. The fact that *you* are going to decide what criteria are set for "a good contributor" or not is what people don't really love.

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What's wrong with my method of selection? You need a panel of members to do a, usually simple, check that there is a contribution?

Also not perfect, but already ten time better than just you.

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Again, do you have a better idea?

I think we don't need a better idea than this forum. Maybe a bit more moderators, thats all.
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September 14, 2011, 06:47:35 AM
Also, there are hell of a lot of members here. So when you say "we", who exactly do you represent besides yourself and on what grounds?

If you guys want to tell me why you don't like the idea I would like to see individual posts from people with their reasons.

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September 14, 2011, 06:40:46 AM
No, we got your point. We just think it is not a good idea. Is that so hard to accept for you? You have an idea, someone else feels it is a bad idea and does not want to join in it.

May I ask what are you doing here then? It's not enough for you to disagree, you want to convince other people to agree with you?

Couldn't you just ignore this thread?


Maybe some people feel it is not such a bad idea to have both sides of the story on one and the same forum. Maybe some people prefer that over a forum where only yay-sayers are allowed in. The fact that you have such a problem accepting that someone does not agree with you is a good sign of what you would to a forum you'd be in control of.

I have no problems with accepting that people don't like this idea or prefer a forum with "two sides".

What I do mind is a forum that is not functional. And in no way I advocate closing this forum.

And I was tired of speaking into the void. I got no constructive criticism or ideas. Mostly no useful replies at all. Like I am speaking Latin or some other dead language and people just look at each other: "What did he just said?" "I have no idea." "Yeah, me neither".

however saying "fuck" 10 times in one post could be seen as trolling...)

I speak like I feel. Don't tell me you're a toddler from a kindergarten who can't handle ten fucks in a single post.


It is not the *kind* of people you are trying to select for your forum, it is the way in which you were planning on *selecting them* that bothers people.

Explain please. So far all I've seen were cries about elitists trying to create a place for themselves.

What's wrong with my method of selection? You need a panel of members to do a, usually simple, check that there is a contribution?

Again, do you have a better idea?

sr. member
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September 14, 2011, 06:24:10 AM

Maybe it's because people miss the point and automatically get pissed of that somebody will judge them, though I've explained more than once, that it's not my intention to judge their contribution, but to make sure that there is a contribution.

No, we got your point. We just think it is not a good idea. Is that so hard to accept for you? You have an idea, someone else feels it is a bad idea and does not want to join in it.

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You have a better idea? Let's hear it. Invite everyone in? You will get exactly the same place like here.

Maybe some people feel it is not such a bad idea to have both sides of the story on one and the same forum. Maybe some people prefer that over a forum where only yay-sayers are allowed in. The fact that you have such a problem accepting that someone does not agree with you is a good sign of what you would to a forum you'd be in control of.

Assuming that you feel there is too much trolling going on (and please keep in mind that disagreeing with someone is not trolling, however saying "fuck" 10 times in one post could be seen as trolling...) then I think this would be easily solved by getting some more moderators on board and making sure people stay respectful when posting.

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What's wrong with the gathering of people who did some actual work for Bitcoin?

Nothing.
But that is not what people were protesting against. Funny how you are quick to shout "you didn't get my point" while you obviously didn't even understand the point of the people protesting against your idea.
It is not the *kind* of people you are trying to select for your forum, it is the way in which you were planning on *selecting them* that bothers people.
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September 14, 2011, 05:48:58 AM

On a side note - if anyone has an idea for a 3-day project they want to see implemented, but have no resources to do so - you can post it here or contact me directly: [email protected].

I am ready for my next failure  Grin


Have a look at https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.518237 and see if you can help Cheesy
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September 14, 2011, 04:52:48 AM
Quote from: The_Duke link=topic=41798.msg524971#msg524971
We'd love a better place to talk. We just don't believe your idea is a particularly good one. Smiley

Maybe it's because people miss the point and automatically get pissed of that somebody will judge them, though I've explained more than once, that it's not my intention to judge their contribution, but to make sure that there is a contribution.

You have a better idea? Let's hear it. Invite everyone in? You will get exactly the same place like here.

What's wrong with the gathering of people who did some actual work for Bitcoin? What, all the other gilds and foundations of, say, beer brewers are stupid ideas too? Maybe they should invite steel producers and carpet cleaners too?

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On a side note - if anyone has an idea for a 3-day project they want to see implemented, but have no resources to do so - you can post it here or contact me directly: [email protected].

I am ready for my next failure  Grin

sr. member
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September 14, 2011, 04:43:13 AM
Oh, boy, you fuckers sure like to gloat, don't you?

You're like a pack of vultures, being losers yourself you want everyone else to fail, so you can gloat and feel better about yourself.
Feels nice, doesn't it? Warm, cozy feeling of self-worth, ah… And since you are, unfortunately, the ones who speak the most, you become the face of any large community. Parasites, destroying, instead of creating.

I want people to succeed. I even tried to tell you that your plan was not a very good one, giving you the chance to do something else that might work better. But you were blinded by the possibility of being the cookie in an elitist circle-jerk to listen to advice and/or criticism.

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Isn't this the real reason you are pissed off about “my little ivory tower”, huh? That you haven't done anything creative? You can only sit here and yak, yak, yak all day. And nice people are too fucking scared to even open their mouth in the environment like this.

I don't think anyone was pissed off. I think people were mainly amused, surprised at the ignorance and perhaps a tad annoyed at the idea. Other than that, I have a highly creative job at which I am very successful. I have very little need to establish some e-peen with a virtual currency project.

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So, fuck you personally. I narrow my “fuck you all” range.

Oh, ok.  Roll Eyes

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And guess what? The moment of weakness has passed. I talked to some people who matter, and they talked some sense into me.

So someone managed to talk a stupid idea out of your head? Props to them!

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Not you, Meni, I haven't seen an iota of support from you. “Oh, I'm so big, important and busy, I myself have no ideas or time to help you, but you better come up with some creative ways to attract people quick or I quit”. You wanna quit – quit. If you want to delete your account – I'll be happy to oblige. All the negative naysayers are just a dead weight.

You want to delete accounts from your elitist "super contributor" forum? You call those people "dead weight"? So even after someone has done enough to join your golden section of shining eliteness, they can still be demoted to "uncool" status?

wow...

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Grow a thicker skin, you say? Let's fucking try it.

So you, fucking vultures, bring it on! Bring everything you've got. How I am stupid and elitist and how I will fail and how nobody will ever be on the forum and how all my projects are small, stupid and pathetic.

I am fucking listening. Entertain me.

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Now I not only think your idea was bad, but also that you have anger management issues and maybe a split personality. Can we speak to the calm Alex please?


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P.S. To all the sane people – there is a closed section on the Contributors Forum, so you can talk freely without looking over your shoulder.
What are you gonna loose by joining? 2 minutes of your time? What if the idea will work? Don't you want a better place to talk?

We'd love a better place to talk. We just don't believe your idea is a particularly good one. Smiley
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September 14, 2011, 04:25:30 AM
Wow. Way to miss the point of my comments.
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September 14, 2011, 04:01:07 AM
Oh, boy, you fuckers sure like to gloat, don't you?

You're like a pack of vultures, being losers yourself you want everyone else to fail, so you can gloat and feel better about yourself.
Feels nice, doesn't it? Warm, cozy feeling of self-worth, ah… And since you are, unfortunately, the ones who speak the most, you become the face of any large community. Parasites, destroying, instead of creating.

Isn't this the real reason you are pissed off about “my little ivory tower”, huh? That you haven't done anything creative? You can only sit here and yak, yak, yak all day. And nice people are too fucking scared to even open their mouth in the environment like this.

So, fuck you personally. I narrow my “fuck you all” range.

And guess what? The moment of weakness has passed. I talked to some people who matter, and they talked some sense into me. Not you, Meni, I haven't seen an iota of support from you. “Oh, I'm so big, important and busy, I myself have no ideas or time to help you, but you better come up with some creative ways to attract people quick or I quit”. You wanna quit – quit. If you want to delete your account – I'll be happy to oblige. All the negative naysayers are just a dead weight.

Grow a thicker skin, you say? Let's fucking try it.

So you, fucking vultures, bring it on! Bring everything you've got. How I am stupid and elitist and how I will fail and how nobody will ever be on the forum and how all my projects are small, stupid and pathetic.

I am fucking listening. Entertain me.



P.S. To all the sane people – there is a closed section on the Contributors Forum, so you can talk freely without looking over your shoulder.
What are you gonna loose by joining? 2 minutes of your time? What if the idea will work? Don't you want a better place to talk?


sr. member
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Lead Core BitKitty Developer
September 14, 2011, 01:04:04 AM
Fuck you all.

I've put an effort, my time and my heart and you have taken a shit all over it.

Good luck with your toy currency. Good luck with attracting developers.

I'm out of here.

I have more productive things to spend my time on.


Maybe you could start a forum for people who have turned their back on the community. You can select only the people who you feel have "turned enough" to be worthy. Maybe you can call it "bittercoin forums"?
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September 14, 2011, 12:40:52 AM
Good luck with your toy currency. Good luck with attracting developers.

I'm out of here.

 Please send all your BTC to the address in my .sig, on your way out.

 Thanks !
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September 13, 2011, 07:29:20 PM
I've created an intentionally minimalistic bounty system:

http://forum.qbizy.com/index.php?action=bounty

So if you need something done - post it there.

You can be sure that at least one professional programmer who cares about the fate of Bitcoin will keep an eye on it Smiley



It appears that the website is blocked to the outside world. I get an HTTP 403 Forbidden when I try to open the page :-(
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September 13, 2011, 06:50:09 PM
Forum is down :/
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September 13, 2011, 06:17:25 PM
Fuck you all.

I've put an effort, my time and my heart and you have taken a shit all over it.

Good luck with your toy currency. Good luck with attracting developers.

I'm out of here.

I have more productive things to spend my time on.


Can I have your stuff?

+1

The Tower (ivory) XVI



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September 13, 2011, 12:55:05 PM
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Fuck you all.

I've put an effort, my time and my heart and you have taken a shit all over it.

Good luck with your toy currency. Good luck with attracting developers.

I'm out of here.

I have more productive things to spend my time on.


Can I have your stuff?
legendary
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September 13, 2011, 12:54:13 PM
#98
More and more I understand why Gavin Andreson lists 'a thick skin' as one of his primary qualifications for being a bitcoin dev.
I think that quality is probably required for any community endeavour around here... and judging by the epic trollability of many - it's just not widely possessed!

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September 13, 2011, 11:54:16 AM
#97
Fuck you all.

I've put an effort, my time and my heart and you have taken a shit all over it.

Good luck with your toy currency. Good luck with attracting developers.

I'm out of here.

I have more productive things to spend my time on.
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