Look in the left-upper corner
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I've added BTC price display for logged in users.
Look in the left-upper corner
Look in the left-upper corner
Sure you can, that's kind of what the whole Bitcoin protocol is based on. Give them some random number, and see how many difficulty-1 hashes they can generate in a given time frame with this number in the extraNonce.
I never thought of that! 
Anyway, I can't verify how many GPUs a person has.
Sure you can, that's kind of what the whole Bitcoin protocol is based on. Give them some random number, and see how many difficulty-1 hashes they can generate in a given time frame with this number in the extraNonce. I'm sorry, you never mentioned altruism before this post. If you are looking for people that have made altruistic contributions to Bitcoin, then your site is going to be very small my friend.
Sorry, altruism is probably indeed not the word I was looking for
I'll take it back.
Also as someone who has 20 GPUs at 6 GHash, I know I work a little harder at maintaining the equipment than someone mining with a single card.
No offense, but just buying a bunch of GPUs for mining doesn't mean that a person will be a valuable contributor to discussions, does it?
Anyone can do it. Where's the creative part?
Anyway, I can't verify how many GPUs a person has.
a) anyone, who has a modern GPU can mine.
And every single GPU that mines makes it the network that much more secure. Bitcoin has the world's largest amount distributed computing power. Any attacker has to overcome that.
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That said, quantitatively, a miner's marginal contribution to Bitcoin may be smaller than they think. By mining, they are increasing the difficulty, thus discouraging others from mining. Thus this is only a moderate shift of the equilibrium towards higher security. If many people stop mining, the difficulty will decrease to the point that others will easily come to replace them.
Also, for the purpose of the new forum, mining with a single GPU isn't indicative of sufficient involvement and understanding of Bitcoin to expect higher-than-average-quality posts. Mining with 20 GPUs might, so this could be treated as a sufficient contribution for entry.
That said, quantitatively, a miner's marginal contribution to Bitcoin may be smaller than they think. By mining, they are increasing the difficulty, thus discouraging others from mining. Thus this is only a moderate shift of the equilibrium towards higher security. If many people stop mining, the difficulty will decrease to the point that others will easily come to replace them.
Also, for the purpose of the new forum, mining with a single GPU isn't indicative of sufficient involvement and understanding of Bitcoin to expect higher-than-average-quality posts. Mining with 20 GPUs might, so this could be treated as a sufficient contribution for entry.
I meant the more immediate effects of a large portion of the hashing power suddenly dropping off the network. Greatly increased block times, etc. until the difficulty adjusts. We see how well that is working for Namecoin right now.
Also as someone who has 20 GPUs at 6 GHash, I know I work a little harder at maintaining the equipment than someone mining with a single card.
An ivory tower - how quaint
Would I be allowed to post?
I'd like to think admitting me would be a pretty good litmus test for the truthful open-mindedness of it...
I'd like to think admitting me would be a pretty good litmus test for the truthful open-mindedness of it...
As soon as we have a quorum of ordinary contributing members we will organize voting on invites.
The more important question is whether those who qualify really want to post there.
Who wouldn't want to post in a think tank that closes itself to external ideas. 
Would I be allowed to post?
I'd like to think admitting me would be a pretty good litmus test for the truthful open-mindedness of it...
The more important question is whether those who qualify really want to post there.
Who wouldn't want to post in a think tank that closes itself to external ideas. The more important question is whether those who qualify really want to post there.
Who wouldn't want to post in a think tank that closes itself to external ideas.
The more important question is whether those who qualify really want to post there.
Wow. Good to know the thousands of USD I have spent on equipment and my $800/month electric bill do not contribute at all to Bitcoin.
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Its your site, run it how you want. Good luck.
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Its your site, run it how you want. Good luck.
Isepick, the reasons for that are:
a) anyone, who has a modern GPU can mine.
b) you mine so you can get money. It's not exactly an altruistic work you are doing here.
If anyone thinks different - let's discuss it.
That said, quantitatively, a miner's marginal contribution to Bitcoin may be smaller than they think. By mining, they are increasing the difficulty, thus discouraging others from mining. Thus this is only a moderate shift of the equilibrium towards higher security. If many people stop mining, the difficulty will decrease to the point that others will easily come to replace them.
Also, for the purpose of the new forum, mining with a single GPU isn't indicative of sufficient involvement and understanding of Bitcoin to expect higher-than-average-quality posts. Mining with 20 GPUs might, so this could be treated as a sufficient contribution for entry.
Chicken-and-egg problems don't solve themselves without strong intervention.
I don't want to start going "door-to-door" and invite people privately yet. Some might not like it Better wait some time and see, maybe the critical mass will gather by itself.
Wow. Good to know the thousands of USD I have spent on equipment and my $800/month electric bill do not contribute at all to Bitcoin.
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Its your site, run it how you want. Good luck.
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Its your site, run it how you want. Good luck.
Isepick, the reasons for that are:
a) anyone, who has a modern GPU can mine.
b) you mine so you can get money. It's not exactly an altruistic work you are doing here.
If anyone thinks different - let's discuss it.
Chicken-and-egg problems don't solve themselves without strong intervention.
I don't want to start going "door-to-door" and invite people privately yet. Some might not like it
Better wait some time and see, maybe the critical mass will gather by itself.
Whenever I post in a thread, it is added to my watch list. By clicking on the "Show new replies to your posts."
Got it. I will look into it.
Simply mining should not be a contribution
Wow. Good to know the thousands of USD I have spent on equipment and my $800/month electric bill do not contribute at all to Bitcoin. Let the price fall below $5 for a month and you will find out exactly how much miners contribute to Bitcoin. Miners are integral part of Bitcoin, yet everybody who isn't a miner wants to treat them like red headed step children. You will be hard pressed to find non-miners that have spent $10k on the Bitcoin project, or even $5k. Bitcoin can survive without another exchange, or another merchant site, or another pool. Let the miners turn their rigs off, and Bitcoin dies. Mining is the very fabric that Bitcoin is made of. The crypto part of the cryptocurrency. But apparently miners don't contribute to Bitcoin.
Its your site, run it how you want. Good luck.
This seems like a better requirement. The problem with a new forum is getting that critical mass of contributors. Better to invite more people and then uninvite them if they don't meet the community's standards than have an empty forum.
Andrew, this is a centuries old problem, how to select such people and who will be selecting them.
History tells us that all such attempts have failed so far
That's why I proposed a simple criteria that doesn't require any judgment on my part.
It's a simple fact check - whether or not a person had actually contributed something - no judgment is needed.
IDEA: A forum where only people who have actually contributed something to BitCoin have write access.
This current forum is way too noisy. There are many smart and decent people here, who are putting their personal time and money to create something for BitCoin.
Wouldn't you like to see a place where such people could have a discussion without having to deal with all the noise, all the scandals and freemason bullshit, same newbie questions over and over again, etc.?
Well, as usual, if you want something done – do it yourself
So here it is – I’ve installed an SMF 2.0 forum for this:
http://forum.qbizy.com
(If this project takes off I will move it to a separate domain and hosting).
So if you think it's a good idea to have such a place – register with an email from the site where one can see your contribution or drop me a line at [email protected].
You're probably thinking "what, some schmuck with less than 50 posts will now judge my contribution and decide who’s in and who’s out?"
You're right I am not a hero member here, and I am in no position to determine how valuable your contribution is. I will just try to check that there is a contribution, that's all.
I love the BitCoin idea. I want it to succeed. Workers of the BitCoin world – unite!
Seriously. Go register.
td;lr:
"Dissenting opinions inflame our sense of worth, let's create a insular place where we won't be exposed."
I'll bite, but if you want active participation you'll have to provide some reason why we should expect this forum to be more successful than all the other alternative forums.
Meni, the major reason is the whole idea of restricted access. I don't think I need to do anything special, except to provide a place for discussions and don't get in the way Is it possible in whatever smf version / mods / whatever you are using, to remove a thread from the list of threads that show up in "Show new replies to your posts."? That this is impossible is one of the major problems with bitcointalk. If this is impossible with smf, I recommend using a different software (though I've never been as active in a forum as here, so I should be careful what I wish for...)
Nothing is impossible, if there is no such feature, I'll code it I'm just not sure what you mean. I am not very familiar with version 2.0 myself, so it will take some time to properly configure it.
smart and mostly good people
This seems like a better requirement. The problem with a new forum is getting that critical mass of contributors. Better to invite more people and then uninvite them if they don't meet the community's standards than have an empty forum.
Is it possible in whatever smf version / mods / whatever you are using, to remove a thread from the list of threads that show up in "Show new replies to your posts."? That this is impossible is one of the major problems with bitcointalk. If this is impossible with smf, I recommend using a different software (though I've never been as active in a forum as here, so I should be careful what I wish for...)
Nothing is impossible, if there is no such feature, I'll code it
I'm just not sure what you mean. I am not very familiar with version 2.0 myself, so it will take some time to properly configure it.
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