Topic: cooldgamer abuse of the trust system (Read 4321 times)

Since you decided to necropost, how's this for untrustworthy?

This thread is an example of when the negative feedback was warranted. The OP in this case was trying to buy trust, something that is untrustworthy

Vod,

Thanks for removing the negative feedback. i removed my negative feedback against you as well. I apologize for the entire incident, i should learn to pick battles more carefully. I will no more troll you on forum. see ya around

I'm letting it go as per your earlier advice. You should too.

What is this "we" business?  If you don't like the way bitcointalk works, nobody is making you use it.  Why not use a different forum, or start your own?

Bitcointalk is not your government or your country.  It is not imposed on you.  If it is not doing what you like, maybe it is doing what lots of other people like and you should look for somewhere else to get what you want.

there was no negative trust prior to this incident.

h4xx0r : "I want to trade $5 Paypal for Bitcoin, so I can buy trust. Or maybe not, I just want to buy McDonalds using Bitcoin !!"  

Exchanger A : "Ok, let me check your profile..."


----------------------------------------
h4xx0r
Warning: Trade with extreme caution!
----------------------------------------


you deserve that warning message,
h4xx0r -- Scammer Alert!

Now that you can buy and sell accounts with no recourse, the trust system is completely meaningless.

Think about it.

I looked before i leapt with that post. Hence my admission of a mistake. I am not talking about stunna. he is a respected user and is no doubt on the up and up.

Sig campaigns are people providing a legitimate service (advertising) in exchange for BTC.  Once the transaction is done people may leave trust.  Stunna did not make trusting him a requirement to be part of the sig campaign.

      You weren't going to remove it either way. I had already apologized to you and you ignored that post, so it goes without saying that that apology is now rescinded.

      Continuing,  you cannot possibly know i would have done another trade again. That reminds me of that movie with Tom Cruise where they charged people with crimes they would commit in the future, but i will digress and defer on that matter, to the more pressing issue:

If this is scammy behaviour, why are Signature Campaign reps not considered scammy?

       Ive saw plenty of rep loans btw, look at default trust. half the members on the list have questionable feedback. Look at TF, Blazr, and Vod. Far from model citizens. Remember their account farming operation? how about when Blazr got caught and paid his way out of it? enlisting Vod and others to leave negative feedback on the posters who busted them out? there was never any recourse for either of them on the matter.

No punishment for the protected, tsk tsk. Reminds me of corporate america.

To me, it seems we have a system here designed to protect the interest of a select few, and leave the common user on the outside looking in. We need a clearer guidelines and more accountability for all, not just the select few. there needs to be a counterbalance. like the ability for an admin to leave a note on trust ratings.

Okay, that one trade (although I suspect you would have done the same again or taken up multiple members)  You wanted to make a trade for the point of gaining trust, not unlike a rep loan, both of which are scammy behavior.  You said in your other thread that you would make trades with Hero MemberS in an attempt to get green trust, which obviously takes more than one.

I'm done here, the rating stays.

those trades? it was a singular, one time trade, i'm not here to trade cock sucker. you already knew that, and if you didn't well, you're the one calling me out atleast get it right. i was here to get some bitcoin through the trade, and get a positive trust rating. then i planned to offer my services, using the trust rating to help me attract potential clients. here to try and tap the bitcoin economy for extra work. that way if fiat collapses, i already will have inroads here.

You were obviously trying to farm trust from those trades, no matter how many times you try to say you weren't.  You tried to game the system, now you are marked as so.  You can still get plenty of trades here by using escrow.

Umm, ok? if you have a point make it. Seems like you're the one whining about the truth. I never tried to buy trust. i said i thought about it, then i stipulated in my post requesting a trade that we would exchange feedback. that is not the saming thing as "buying trust", you all are trying to find deeper meaning in something as shallow Mozart's grave.

That pisses me off. ANY forum with a trust system where you tried to do that would result in you being instantly slapped down. Buying trust is buying trust on ANY forum with a trust system. Don't whine about the truth.

I already did admit it was a mistake(only in the court of public opinion, morally there is no problem, but i see that paypal trades are sketchy anyway, so overall it was a mistake). I still must inform you, I don't feel like it was the big deal its being made out to be(because it isn't, you've probably just all synchronized your menstrual cycles. it happens when a bunch of bitches cohabit the same space, even on forums apparently). The sole objective wasn't just to gain trust. a killing two birds with one stone kind of thing. Gain some trust , get some bitcoin to deposit at cryptsy, none of which really matters. its my own damn business.

The annoying truth here is that you all overreacted to something very minor, and now you are putting the full court press on me to admit and walk away, and i won't do it. A simple "hey that's against the rules! cease and decist immediately!" would have sufficed, but no we needed the back biting, preconceived notion about me and my intentions, modus operandi injectus ( i made that up)  and confrontation. OTR, the pompous assery is what makes bitcoin a sideshow oddity unappealing to the masses. look how people are treated as a newbie here, whether the individual is good or bad at heart. Go ahead and give me a negative feedback if you feel that strongly that i'm a bad person and have broken the sacred laws of bitcoin talk forum. At the end of the day, you will still be full of shit, and even more so high on your own farts. I may lose the ability of selling my services for bitcoin, but with the treatment received here, good riddance. I am doing just fine in the fiat world, and i will gladly return to it and continue to do my business solely in fiat. Maybe you should learn to solve problems without jumping to conclusions and we'd all be better off.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=55122 is how you get a high trust. Not by trading $5 PP -> BTC back and forth with the sole objective of gaining Trust. Just admit your mistake and maybe your negative trust will be removed. You're getting fucking annoying now and it just decreases your chances of the negative trust being removed.

Yeah, I woudn't trust someone who insults other people, no matter how many trades went OK.
Maybe you just confuse the word "trust" with "that green indicator on the left on bitcointalk forum"?

So make your mind up. You didn't attempt to buy feedback but all feedbacks are bought? If you were truly smart you would've just done this without announcing your intentions and got the feedback quickly and with minimal cost to you and everybody would be none the wiser. You saying you tried to get a competitive edge by taking a shortcut but you didn't cheat in any way is like an athlete taking performance enhancing drugs to quickly get the edge whilst maintaining he did nothing wrong (he did, he tried cheating the system just like you did regardless of what excuses you can spit out). And no, not all feedback is bought. Most people just acquire it naturally over time from doing honest trades and other such stuff but you attempted to bypass this, and your revelations here are quite revealing of your true mindset.