Cooperative investing between small investors

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Quote from: dataispower on July 15, 2022, 11:18:18 AM

I can only tell you what i know and what we have to do in point in time. Investment that you invest with companies do come with alot of complications and trouble from the company. If you want to enjoy investment of cryptocurrency put your hands together and invest personally, hoping for company investment in cryptocurrency, some times it will end up with scam and you lose your cryptocurrency investment, before you can see a cryptocurrency investment now that is legit is very deadly and i don't the fuck companies

This is quite true. I mean if you are expecting a news for your currency to go up, then you have invested into the wrong thing. There shouldn't be anyone else that helps you, because everyone will try to get what they have, and nothing more.

So if we all got together, there will be some people willing to wait longer, and some people will just say "screw everyone else, I want profit!" and ruin the plan. That’s how the pump and dump works as well, some people make a little profit and get out right away, blocking everyone else to make more profit, and they just end up with small profit that caused everyone to lose. Hence, why this idea would never work at all.

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Quote from: gweb1996 on May 19, 2022, 03:41:06 AM

Cooperative investing between small investors is better then investing on your own

Let's say you have:

10 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? No
10000 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? Depends on the margin of the business ,if you get 5% per year it's less then inflation so you lose money,if you get 20% per year good margin better then inflation

Now let's say i notice there is a demand for fertilizers ,and most people notice that also ... but i got only 500 usd to invest, another guy has 1500 usd ,another guy 10000 usd and so on ...

How can we pool the money together to build a fertilizers plant ,if x is in country a ,y in country b and so on and best place for investment is in country c do to fact country c has gas ?

Is there a website / app that allows investors to pool money like that ? ( no stock market / to create new businesses i mean )

Aren't those just investments funds? I know what you are getting at, but a cooperative smells too much like communism and you know how laser-eyed when Lambo investors hate communism

I am completely on board with the idea, however, for it to remain small and personal, it should be really done without a third party, but by those investors approaching each other and negotiating their own terms of investing and cooperation. Would like to see something like that honestly.

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Quote from: Joshapat on July 14, 2022, 10:03:22 PM

The presence of cryptocurrencies gives a good option because with only $ 100 even less we can buy bitcoin or altcoins, everything does not need a long process like investment in stocks, mutual funds or deposits that have to fill in forms with complete data, we only need less than 5 minutes to save Assets in a safe wallet and this is a new era of the investment system.

While this is a new era of investing still there isn't anything wrong going traditional for once. Investment this days hardly add value to humans which is why many veteran investors are against it. Today it's all about how much the investors can make without considering how impactive this investment can be to humanity. The investment the OP just stated isn't a bad one but for a company either through website or app to pull that off especially as the OP is asking based on the investment been global, it would be very hard to operate.

The closest I have seen to that kind of investment was when I downloaded an app for investment few years back that was only available to citizens of my country. The app was focus on raising funds for agricultural business and as a return you get percentage of the profit realized by the business you funded. The app has died now though as a result of people not getting enough returns of investment and better investment vehicle coming out like cryptocurency etc.

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Quote from: dataispower on July 15, 2022, 11:18:18 AM

I can only tell you what i know and what we have to do in point in time. Investment that you invest with companies do come with alot of complications and trouble from the company. If you want to enjoy investment of cryptocurrency put your hands together and invest personally, hoping for company investment in cryptocurrency, some times it will end up with scam and you lose your cryptocurrency investment, before you can see a cryptocurrency investment now that is legit is very deadly and i don't the fuck companies

The only ones you could really trust up is only yourself when it comes to investment.Dont really make yourself easily get hooked nor get convinced by any recommendations or some sort because it would really just might
be ending up on getting fucked or losses and make out some regrets just because someone had suggested it and you arent totally sure on the action you had made.
Cooperative kind of investment or entrusting up funds on a single person or company just to make some investment or proposals then i wont really be touching up something like this.
Just on what been said above that the main issue of these things is trust where everybody cant just easily trust people.

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I can only tell you what i know and what we have to do in point in time. Investment that you invest with companies do come with alot of complications and trouble from the company. If you want to enjoy investment of cryptocurrency put your hands together and invest personally, hoping for company investment in cryptocurrency, some times it will end up with scam and you lose your cryptocurrency investment, before you can see a cryptocurrency investment now that is legit is very deadly and i don't the fuck companies

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It does not seem to be good idea to pool invest with unknown investors. In the era where digital fraud is at its peak I barely doubt any one cohoe succeed in this process. I am not sure how many of you have heard this but there is process called as Chit Funding which is ran by group of people for particular tenure and particular amount of money. So each month chit is taken out and whoever gets the name will have the money and it would be collected from the group members and thus that guy can use it for his purpose. Process continues until the end of last month. This is not investment model but collective power of investing money so that everyone can use it.

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There are lot of companies and brokerage services let you to invest whatever capital you have but I sm not sure whether they will let you to invest in the stocks you want but there are services which picks best and invest so this isn't really a new idea and also investing 100 os same as investing 10000 dollars because at the end of the day we talk about returns in percentage if any investment says if you invest big the returns will be more then its more likely scam so be aware.

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The presence of cryptocurrencies gives a good option because with only $ 100 even less we can buy bitcoin or altcoins, everything does not need a long process like investment in stocks, mutual funds or deposits that have to fill in forms with complete data, we only need less than 5 minutes to save Assets in a safe wallet and this is a new era of the investment system.

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Even if there was such a website I don't think it is a reasonable thing to do. It is already difficult to have a genuine investment and then doing it with complete strangers online is even more dangerous. Besides, is the website will be in charge of making the investment on behalf of the partners and split the profit amongst them as well!

His idea is a great corporative idea that is workable but the problem is trust, especially as he mentioned investors across the country. The reality is that we are operating a trustless economy. If this idea can be implement in a blockchain that would be nice. Else an escrow system be involved. But in whatever way it is operated, it needs likes mind and it will be a huge success because we all know the power of crowd funding.

Yeah, there are lots of good ideas and proposals about some investment or something like this but the main issue would be trust.You wont be easily
getting any support even if the idea mentioned or proposed was great and with having lots of scams and frauds in the market then you cant
really blame out people on always having the doubts and hesitance on shelling out some funds into something.

Quote from: Gusseino on July 13, 2022, 07:16:08 AM

To date, anyone can invest even $10 in shares or cryptocurrency, and the chance to earn is there. Of course, with more money, you can invest in larger projects, like real estate.

Easy to say about having more money but considerations about making investment and diversification then it isnt really simple on the first place.

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To date, anyone can invest even $10 in shares or cryptocurrency, and the chance to earn is there. Of course, with more money, you can invest in larger projects, like real estate. I would like to resell real estate if I had the money to buy a house. Suppose I start investing with the BRRRR method. Have you heard about this method? Is it advantageous in our time? Some people in this activity say it can earn very good money. Undoubtedly, the risk is very high (especially in the current conditions), but the chance to get a good profit is. The main thing to act correctly

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Quote from: Bitstar_coin on May 20, 2022, 01:47:57 PM

Even if there was such a website I don't think it is a reasonable thing to do. It is already difficult to have a genuine investment and then doing it with complete strangers online is even more dangerous. Besides, is the website will be in charge of making the investment on behalf of the partners and split the profit amongst them as well!

His idea is a great corporative idea that is workable but the problem is trust, especially as he mentioned investors across the country. The reality is that we are operating a trustless economy. If this idea can be implement in a blockchain that would be nice. Else an escrow system be involved. But in whatever way it is operated, it needs likes mind and it will be a huge success because we all know the power of crowd funding.

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Quote from: palle11 on May 20, 2022, 09:23:00 AM

Combine business or partnership rarely survive even those that are physical because of insincerity among partners, it is short lived. What you are talking of is online partnership or combine business that is done online. This is very risky, you don't know the real mind of your partner who stays countries far from you. This is going to be difficult to execute when you have partner A, B, C etc staying miles away from one another. Don't think of such business online you can gather your capital for a sole business of your own where you can manage it and employ more hands that you will pay salary.

I agree that combined would make a problem if we are talking about 50-50% partnership. However if we are talking about 5% ownership by 20 people then it becomes a big enough business that "not working" would be a difficult situation. Imagine the scenario as people who are taking such a small ownership that you could replace that person by a board if there is a problem.

Make it even 1% ownership by 100 people, at that point even 1 million dollar investment becomes 10k for each person and that would be not a bad deal. I personally feel like this type of business would work a lot better than anything that 2 people does with half partnership.

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Of course it is difficult if we only have a small capital, there will be many restrictions such as the minimum investment that must be met, and I think the best thing when we still have small capital is to invest in cryptocurrencies, even with $50 or less we can invest and can use it to invest. trading or staking if we aim for the long term.

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Quote from: gweb1996 on May 19, 2022, 03:41:06 AM

10 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? No

There was a guy in my US state who claimed to have bought a $5 pack of carrot seeds, which he claims he grew $200 of carrots he sold at market, for a 40x return on investment.

An artist might buy a $5 pack of crayons or pencils which they use to illustrate a masterpiece they sell on ebay for more than $5.

It is possible to download free music creation software which can be used to make music which is worth something on itunes or spotify.

There are cases where investments and businesses can be founded on investments of $10 or less.

Those might be the best options to focus on for most. As it tends to encourage people to focus on the basic fundamentals which are most important.

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Quote from: gweb1996 on May 19, 2022, 03:41:06 AM

Cooperative investing between small investors is better then investing on your own

Let's say you have:

10 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? No
10000 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? Depends on the margin of the business ,if you get 5% per year it's less then inflation so you lose money,if you get 20% per year good margin better then inflation

Now let's say i notice there is a demand for fertilizers ,and most people notice that also ... but i got only 500 usd to invest, another guy has 1500 usd ,another guy 10000 usd and so on ...

How can we pool the money together to build a fertilizers plant ,if x is in country a ,y in country b and so on and best place for investment is in country c do to fact country c has gas ?

Is there a website / app that allows investors to pool money like that ? ( no stock market / to create new businesses i mean )

When doing something like that I think it is better to do so through the traditional channels, so you should you create a company and then the shares should be divided among the investors depending on the amount of money and other assets they are giving to the company, what you are proposing is simply too complex and while it could be done the nature of cryptocurrencies could allow one of those investors to eventually run away with everything if you are not careful, so when you need to pool your resources like that I think it is better that you look for alternatives outside this market.

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Their must be pure and clean transference between the business man. Or else it won’t work in a business, Cooperatives must include the transference among the users at all the sense. So don’t panic at thee investments. Small investors should help each other’s by the mean of transference among the investors. Profit should be shared among them.

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Even if there was such a website I don't think it is a reasonable thing to do. It is already difficult to have a genuine investment and then doing it with complete strangers online is even more dangerous. Besides, is the website will be in charge of making the investment on behalf of the partners and split the profit amongst them as well!

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Quote from: gweb1996 on May 19, 2022, 03:41:06 AM

Cooperative investing between small investors is better then investing on your own

Let's say you have:

10 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? No
10000 usd can you invest it in something to generate real profit ? Depends on the margin of the business ,if you get 5% per year it's less then inflation so you lose money,if you get 20% per year good margin better then inflation

Now let's say i notice there is a demand for fertilizers ,and most people notice that also ... but i got only 500 usd to invest, another guy has 1500 usd ,another guy 10000 usd and so on ...

How can we pool the money together to build a fertilizers plant ,if x is in country a ,y in country b and so on and best place for investment is in country c do to fact country c has gas ?

Is there a website / app that allows investors to pool money like that ? ( no stock market / to create new businesses i mean )

In the organized sector mutual funds are the only place where you can pool money in this way, otherwise all such mutual investment schemes have ended in scam only. Bitconnect was one such scheme however it ended in a great scam only. There have been many more such instances i feel unorganised market aren't really worth trusting for this as someone would eventually run away with the money.

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Partnerships are good to boost your “volumetric” investment but when it comes to profits it will get shared equally and very much equals to what you would earn in individual investment. The only positive thing is it’s little extra sometimes and you share the risks of investment equally. For example, mutual funds investment. Brokers pull in huge number of investors, use their money to invest into share market and returns the x% at the maturity.

However, if you going to pull the job by yourself then make sure you have proper agreements, equal shares and everything handy so that you won’t end up into trouble at the end of story.

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Combine business or partnership rarely survive even those that are physical because of insincerity among partners, it is short lived. What you are talking of is online partnership or combine business that is done online. This is very risky, you don't know the real mind of your partner who stays countries far from you. This is going to be difficult to execute when you have partner A, B, C etc staying miles away from one another. Don't think of such business online you can gather your capital for a sole business of your own where you can manage it and employ more hands that you will pay salary.

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