Topic: Copa América 2019 Discussion Thread & Prediction Pool (registration closed) - page 12. (Read 4018 times)

Awesome Cup with Argentina players trolling in the field and Brazilian loosing what should be an easy game...
Now if Peru will win against Brazil and Venezuela knocking out Bolivia which is possible then Brazilian will be out from this stage!!
Now for Argentina it has to won vs Qatar or else the whole team should be put in the hall of shame, all together!!
Now for the next games, Uruguay and Chile have to pass to the next round early.

@tomahawk9, you summarized what's going on with Argentina in recent years. Pochetino or Simeone as manager of national team would be perfect choice, but I just don't see any reasons to leave their clubs and start to work with national team. Personally, I think that Marcelo Bielsa would be interesting option for Argentina.
Still, I belive that Argentina will reach next round but there their journey will end. Now they can only dream about winning Copa America trophy.

true but as you mentioning their last games were really good , also they are thrilled with their last heavy victory
the main factor of this bet is Japan since they haven't done anything special in their last game except like 2 chances

so I would say any team of the top 4 teams in America can easily beat them with 3 goals difference
but obviously this is a game of chance as well , so can't predict it perfectly

Uruguay doesn't strike me like a team that goes for heavy wins usually, until their last four or five games, there were privileged to have put four past Ecuador (thanks to the early red card to Ecuador) IMO.

I'll on the other hand be surprised if they score more than 2 goals tonight.

today on papers should be easy , there is no way to compare between Uruguay and the current Japanese team
honestly of today Uruguay don't win by 3 goals or more I would be really disappointed , but hey I have been disappointed many times in this competition 

Japan players aren't experienced , so the whole goal of this participation just to prepare more for the next WC qualifications

any handicap bet on Uruguay looks good IMO up to -2.5 , over 2.5 goals looks nice as well 

It's a combination of bad things happening at the same time:

- An AFA (argentina football association) that's a complete disaster who they decided to appoint as manager the first guy they saw walking in the AFA headquarters (Scaloni) instead of going after Pochettino (Spurs) or Simeone (Atletico Madrid).
- A manager who has as much experience managing a NT (or a club) as my dog. That sub last night (Di María in - Lautaro out, right when Argentina were dominating the game) really showed his inexperience.
- Players who, psychologically, seem to struggle to play at a decent level with the NT (Otamendi, Messi, Di maria, Lo Celso, Armani, etc).
- Players who don't have the level to play in the NT (Matias Suarez, Pereyra, Tagliafico, Paredes, etc) + this is the first time they're playing together at a competitive level (meaning, there's no chemistry yet)...That's a recipe for disaster.
- A really tense atmosphere behind the scenes because of leaks about the NT formation, players having discrepancies with the manager, pressure from the argentinian press, and other stuff, which might be affecting the entire team mentally.

Take all of that, mix it, and you'll get an argentinian clusterfuck, this has been going on for like a year, since the south american WC qualifiers. That's why I said a few weeks ago:


If I had some bankroll to make some bets, I'd totally go with a Qatar win + O2.5goals next weekend, IF Qatar doesn't try the same tactics they used yesterday (5-3-2).

Football is always about the team no single player or a couple of them make a large difference if the team are not on the same league. It's not the lack of talent that's making the Argentine team poor. It's their rubbish politics in and out of Football. They needed a lesson and I hope this Copa tournament would be the one.

May be they thought Messi is enough to win a match and the rest do not need to support him.

I am not watching any of the matches because of the time zone difference but looking at the scores and reading news I can tell team Argentina is not in good shape. I will avoid picking them for next few matches.

The problem is that in Copa America almost all teams progress to knockout rounds. Only teams that that are finishing competition are last placed teams plus worst one of the 3rd placed teams. This opens up a lot of space to calculate or even keep your best players fresh for the knockout stages.

Granted, I don't think that is the case with Argentina, they have just lost all the confidence and disregarded most of the of the modern football principals. I saw a picture on the twitter when Messi has a ball around center of the pitch, Argentina needs a goal and only one player is joining him on the opposition half, WTF 

This Argentinian team is costing me money and I think a lot us too. I had another acca and lost it because of the draw match. Bookies are making good money of them.

Seriously, in the first match they lost, other day Brazil settled with a draw and yesterday Argentina settled with a draw.

Glad to see a temporary leaderboard so far because I made that prediction together at the time of the first match and until now I don't have much time to take part in the match and make bets every day. But if I look and predict for the next match about Uruguay vs Japan I think it will be a big win for Uruguay and just changed the score prediction there. Good luck all!

very disappointing, many people are betting that Argentina will win the match and spend a lot of money to bet on this but in fact Argentina lost to Paraguay.

Argentina played badly yesterday night,they couldn't manage to do only 2 passes with each other and this impacted their game.Paragua was indeed in a good form and they run and played better than Argentina.Argentina equalized only because of the quality of Messi and not because of a team squad play.

Poor Argentina, they have drawn the match. It was a must win for them to keep up with the tournament. Chance is they will be out of the tournament from the first round. Colombia and Paraguay will be the next rounder from this group.

Didn't watch this one... basically the only game I could watch was Qatar/Paraguay which ended 2-2, because it started early. Anything past midnight and I'll be in trouble if I watch. But seriously you're right, this tourney is obvious in the lack of killer instinct in front of goal (save for Uruguay). Also lost a string of bets in Copa, and not even 1 underdog hit yet. I find it difficult to explain what seems to be a lack of quality from the reviews I'm reading but other than the single match I watched, I can't objectively say...


I guess we should have pinged all the EPL pool players! OR maybe next times just sent them superbru invites... but I suppose not everybody appreciates spam from all the different tourneys. To be honest, I'm not knowledgeable at all about Latin American football. If not that a lot of them play in the English leagues (not to even mention La Liga!), I wouldn't know them. Thanks to the Reds, past and present, I learn a bit more about football in Africa and S America too -- a lot of great history there as well, but not much found online that's in English.

Oh and yes, Brazil are always one of the favourites but Colombia (who rained down on Qatar last night) look like they've got the ability.

Sorry everyone,,, I must have not noticed this thread when it started or I would have joined and now it is too late. Actually,,, I do not know much about football in South America. Here in Asia we always know about Messi and all those samba teams from Brazil but the local leagues and even the tournaments are not so popular except for the betting people. I guess Brazil should be the favorites to win even though they did not win all the games yet? Even without Neymar it is hard to see them not win unless the teams force them to penalties. The big surprise is Argentina I guess!

Argentina played badly and only got a draw against Paraguay, what's with Argentina? he has a lot of players with very good quality, is this a coach factor and strategy? or is this a factor in not being compact with Argentine players?

If you think you're having a bad day, I placed quite a lot of bets on Argentina 

I think I'm done with hoping for a change from them, It's probably not going to happen.

wow just another boring game where a team is dominating the whole match but failing to score decent goals , this competition is lacking of good strikers
lucky for me I did a couple of corners bets live that kinda minimized my loss , lines for Colombia corner handicap was really good live since we can all tell that Qatar won't get more than 2 corners by just watching the first 30 minutes

I will skip the next match cause I'm not in good mood , two matches in a row with bad results from two teams who are nominated to win the trophy 

Columbia are dominating so far with just 3 minutes left in the first half, Columbia are all over Qatar, and Qatar would be glad the scoreline remains goalless,

I'm not too sure we'll get up to 3 goals in fixture If neither team manages to score in this half.