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legendary
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September 14, 2021, 07:16:29 PM
#32
However, I think if someone posts any of that, they should start up the discussion with their own thoughts rather than not posting anything themselves (the extreme) or posting a lazy one-sentence "So what U guyz thinks?" kind of crap (the bare minimum). 
This is exactly my stand. For one to refer the forum users to a link, he/she must have read and know how important the article or whatever will be to the forum. After reading, it does not end there. It is expected that you establish your case by opposing or supporting the article. Summarising the article to your understanding, and adding links will make it less ambiguous and discussion friendly.  But the worse in this category to me is copying a lengthy article verbatim and adding link to the article. I consider this irrelevant. Apart from plagiarism avoidance, the essence of links is for further reading. So, what are we expected to read from the link when you have already copied the article in the link from head to foot and pasted?
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September 11, 2021, 09:47:07 PM
#31
Some people have zero tolerance for those that are different, or that think differently than they do. It is sad really. I think a large part of this is due to their inability to think critically or use sound logic to reason and persuade others. Another part of this is just that they are in desperate need of male validation.
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September 11, 2021, 03:20:24 PM
#30

That's Politics&Society, and BADecker does that day in and day out - copy-pastes a title, adds a link, starts a new thread even it's mostly the same topic as many of his other threads. Spammy AF. Most of the time though he adds a quote and perhaps a sentence of his own so technically it's difficult to argue on the grounds of "low value". But in this case he didn't even bother to do that, still apparently it's good enough effort for a discussion forum despite being lifted verbatim from some blog or e-mail newsletter. I thought it's gonna be a slam dunk report. Nope, dude's got shitposting immunity of some sort. SMH.

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September 11, 2021, 03:00:16 PM
#29
I don't have a problem with how BADecker posts (I do however disagree with the substance of many/most/all(?) of his views). The thread in question resulted in a discussion about what BADecker was posting about. His way of formulating arguments is to cite what other people write.
legendary
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September 11, 2021, 10:59:13 AM
#28
Yikes, slap on that tin foil hat--but I guess that's what Off-Topic is for, right? 

That was an extreme example of what OP is talking about, but with topics related to bitcoin or other crypto-related stuff, I actually don't mind if someone posts an article, a snippet of one, or just a link, because I don't actively follow what's going on on the crypto news sites.  All the news I get basically comes from this forum.  However, I think if someone posts any of that, they should start up the discussion with their own thoughts rather than not posting anything themselves (the extreme) or posting a lazy one-sentence "So what U guyz thinks?" kind of crap (the bare minimum). 

One member whose posts always contain articles is Hydrogen, and he's an example of how to do it right.  He always gives his own thoughts at the end of whatever he quotes and invites discussion.  Usually the articles he quotes from are interesting, too.
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September 11, 2021, 10:22:57 AM
#27
OP,I agree with you. Why do we copy what we find in the newspaper or on any web site in the forum. If it does not have any comments. It looks bad in the forum. If something is important then it is good. There are some people who do it. But never think that it will be useful for anyone to post
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September 09, 2021, 02:56:12 PM
#26
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True and I'm not trying to justify offenders that misuse this privilege with my next comment but also I could read a news and what to see what the community reactions to that particular news will be which will result to me posting what I just read on the forum without having to add my thoughts so as not to interface to how they respond to the article knowing that my own point of view could influence their reasoning.

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Usually when this happens, I first look at the OP's post history and look if s/he is always just copy pasting the link and the title of the thread and that would determine if the OP either wants to have a conversation/discussion with the news or topic s/he posted or just wanted to fish for merits.
Some are just even abandoning their own thread by the time that they press the "Post" button.
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September 09, 2021, 02:05:39 PM
#25
Even though i'm a newbie, i have to agree to this argument. It's unfair to others because they looked like they made high quality post when actually they just copied and pasted everything from many different resources. This should be fix.

I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.

writing your own words is much more honorable than just plagiarizing. banned is perfect for those who commit pure plagiarism.
legendary
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September 08, 2021, 03:45:37 AM
#24
But you can also add that if there is good news, and the user is in a hurry to report it, along with the news I would like to hear his own opinion and emotions.

True and I'm not trying to justify offenders that misuse this privilege with my next comment but also I could read a news and what to see what the community reactions to that particular news will be which will result to me posting what I just read on the forum without having to add my thoughts so as not to interface to how they respond to the article knowing that my own point of view could influence their reasoning.

You could say I could have just posted the link redirecting the readers to the source of the information but again most users hate getting redirected from the forum and might just ignore my posts or probably report as low quality since it'll just a one liner comment with redirected link. Copy pasting doesn't make it any quality but atleast reader won't have to ignore because of the redirecting out of the forum.
legendary
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September 08, 2021, 03:37:43 AM
#23

Not all copy pasting are annoying and also not all users engage in such practice just to meet weekly quota, we have user doing so because they genuinely want to pass that information across and they shoudn't get punished just because some bad eggs are abusing such features of the forum.

But you can also add that if there is good news, and the user is in a hurry to report it, along with the news I would like to hear his own opinion and emotions. After all, if he found good news or not, first, he reacted himself and wanted to inform everyone about it, and not just copies and pastes without comment. Isn't it?

Just a message, a clipping from news, especially from well-known news sites, I don't think that it will surprise anyone, since many can read outside the forum.
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September 07, 2021, 06:59:20 PM
#22
Don't you think this should be fix? Will the rules ever be changed?

I don't think the rules should changed for just this reason although frequent offenders should be punished and I'm not just talking about deleting their post, in addition they should be given some temporary ban based on individual cases. Some questions, or answer can be linked from other source without you having to add a words so having such rules will deprived users of such actions.

Not all copy pasting are annoying and also not all users engage in such practice just to meet weekly quota, we have user doing so because they genuinely want to pass that information across and they shoudn't get punished just because some bad eggs are abusing such features of the forum.
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September 06, 2021, 09:58:34 AM
#21
Even though i'm a newbie, i have to agree to this argument. It's unfair to others because they looked like they made high quality post when actually they just copied and pasted everything from many different resources. This should be fix.

I mean it's okay if they search some information but copying everything just seems so wrong. Owning someone's words and making it their own is not good. Using own words and putting effort is better than copying.
legendary
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September 06, 2021, 06:12:10 AM
#20
Unfortunately this is not something that can be observed only on Bitcointalk. In today's social-media dominated world, I am sure many of you have come across those new blogs and news sites that bombard you with recent headlines and clickbait. When you start reading the content, you think this is actually not bad. But then when you are done, you notice the last part that says source and points to a popular news agency. All copy/pasted word for word with no original content. But since they added the source, they are good to go. Sad
legendary
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September 05, 2021, 06:03:55 PM
#19
I think they need to add a new rule about making a post like that because I saw many posts these days copy/pasted with a source link and they are now spreading.
It's doesn't have any effort and no value unless if they added some of their own words before they copy/paste including the source link.

I know spammers change their strategy due to plagiarism at least we already see the effect of banning those who copying and pasting from another source. Now they are copying and include the source link which is still annoying.
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September 05, 2021, 05:21:22 PM
#18
I noticed that while some people adventure into copy and paste work is because they are inquisitive to rank up to another level and also they are lazy of making their own post, it's obvious that this community is made of initiative and creativity and people that Lacks such ability is people that duely engaged into copy and paste articles, and some of them do it intensionally while some do it out of ignorance from my perspective.
legendary
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September 05, 2021, 04:04:16 PM
#17
Lack of ideas is what promotes these tendencies in users. It might fall within the forum rules to have put up the link and that erases the fact of a plagiarised content but, its really annoying. Coming up to discover this rule, it was such that, it applies when the content of a post is so awesome and straight to the point that adding or subtracting a line seems to change the context of the message but then, some users have capitalised on it to plagiarise and spam whole being shadowed by posting a link. It's annoying and discourages any form of originality.

I think one way to put this in check is, not meriting them and should it be an account in a signature campaign, such post should  be considered a low quality post and not counted as it lacks originality.
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September 05, 2021, 12:32:44 PM
#16
If you are not putting your opinion, why would you only copy/paste this?
A lot of times, some people think that when they post a long article here, that they will be given merits.
In the past, people were given merit for these types of posts. Often, the source link is in very small font, and what appears to be a useful post is actually something with no original content from a single source.


If an article is copied, and there is not sufficient additional content or commentary, the post will likely be against copyright laws. I don't think the forum attracts enough traffic, nor does this happen enough for most news organizations to really care about this happening here though.
legendary
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September 05, 2021, 12:11:34 PM
#15
If you are looking for prominent examples of "news-like" posts with zero-effort from a topic starter, then you should definitely check Russian locale's Hoвocти section. Thousands of topics with zero replies clearly show that no one is interested in discussing the topic if the author didn't bother to add his own thoughts. Such behavior discourages any discussions and is harmful to the forum.
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September 05, 2021, 11:46:18 AM
#14
i also think so, is it too difficult to make additional words that are written personally and not just copy-paste?  i see those who just copy-paste articles and don't make their own words to complete the topic that will he or she made are "lazy person"

Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.
maybe the moderators are tired of deleting his or her posts "lol"
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September 04, 2021, 10:38:39 AM
#13
Technically these should be deleted as low value posts - rule #1 - but the enforcement of that rule is quite spotty.

My favorite: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/japan-discovers-magnetic-substance-in-pfizer-covid-vaccines-journalists-5357066

He didn't even bother to give it a proper title, just copied the same text and cut it off in the middle of a sentence. Zero effort copy-pasta spam. Report unhandled. Go figure.

For a so-called news site, using subdomains seem pretty sus right off the bat.

It's not a news site, it's a batshit conspiracy blog but that's besides the point, P&S board is full of that Grin

Even if someone posted links from BBC that way, it would still be a low value post. It's a clear copy-pasta / link spam. Probably worse that what the OP described since there isn't even a quote, although just adding a quote without any attempt to make a coherent point about it and/or start a discussion would still be zero value spam and should fall under rule #1.


As soon as I saw who OP (of quoted thread) was I was like,  oh Jeeezus, what a surprise. The spamming copy pasta batshit crazy, lunacy link king of the P+S Boards.
I swear if that idiot ceased his trolling posting, the intelligence of this forum would go up ten fold.
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