Topic: corona virus death count compared with driving deaths (Read 504 times)

I asked you a question. Since you think just letting it run rampant so people gain natural immunity, how many dead are acceptable to you? How many of your friends and family are you willing to watch die.

Except that nobody knows what the numbers are. Why not? Because world leaders, especially the CDC, have told medical people to count as many deaths as possible, Covid deaths, whether or not they were even connected to Covid. Further, even if they had the Covid virus in them, if they died from something else, they were supposed to have their cause of death listed as Covid.

The numbers are BS. This is shown by both Italy and the US revising their numbers down when too many people were seeing that many of the old people who died, act5ually died of something other than Covid. also, many people who were ventilated died, because it wasn't found until much later that ventilators were not the way to supply oxygen. If they had been given simple oxygen, they would have lived. Murder by medical ignorance. But not Covid deaths, even though they were included as such.

When you look at the real numbers, they are barely any more than a rough flu season. SARS and MERS and the 2017 flu season were worse. The numbers are being manipulated to make an excuse for an unnecessary pandemic.

To understand this and a whole lot more, you need to see what professionals from around the world are saying. If you don't believe the experts, you are turning it into a religion for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos

How many dead are acceptable to you in order for the population to get that herd immunity you seem to think is a good idea as opposed to doing everything possible to reduce the death count until people can get vaccinated? I don't care about your feelings about vaccinations, the vast majority are going to do it so you're opinion on the matter is immaterial. But I'd really like to know how many dead is acceptable to you.

Certain people were saying at the start everyone should do what Sweden was doing and not close things down etc.... Now..

"Per million people, Sweden has suffered 40 percent more deaths than the United States, 12 times more than Norway, seven times more than Finland and six times more than Denmark."

Yep. Good plan.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/07/business/sweden-economy-coronavirus.html

so that they don't get herd immunity from Covid-19 like they did from SARS and MERS and the common cold.

why should analyze what% of the number of deaths from the corona virus, why not talk about why the corona virus is so deadly and contagious so quickly? whatever the% of deaths due to the corona virus, it is a threat to human life that could be saved. because all hope that every pademic can be overcome and not to the expense of many humans, but instead many people are helped.

Corona virus is very special compared to the pandemic that has happened, because of the transmission that is very fast and difficult to anticipate correctly. the last reportedly transmission was no longer from the Droplet that could be anticipated by keeping a distance, but this was reportedly able to from the Airbone because the was carried.
means that if the air circulation at home or in the room is not well channeled, it can be certain that transmission will occur. it's terrible if that's true.

The link makes a distinction that no one knows the true death rate of coronavirus because we don't know the true number of total cases. Most scientific papers published on this give numbers that are below 1 percent as the true fatality rate, but .09% seems extremely low.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

0.09% according to this website

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-rate/

0.09% according to this website

I have heard that in hospitals all the deaths are entered in the section of covid19 deaths only to increase the number of deaths because of covid19. There is a global agenda behind this virus which common man is not able to understand. There are cases where patients died because of heart attacks or cancer but authorities claimed them to have died because of corona.

Don't you know that the statistics on coronavirus mortality is overstated by tens or even hundreds of times, for example in the USA? It's human greed that's to blame. People in the pursuit of profit are willing to overestimate those statistics.

OP is idiotic idiot. According to https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ stats the current lethality of crownvirus is 14% Imagine the number of deaths if 14% of people die when they seat into car for first time.

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The Wuhan coronavirus (COVID-19) outbreak in New York – the worst statewide outbreak in the United States – reportedly spread around nursing homes because of infected workers who passed on the virus among residents and fellow workers. This is according to a new report released on Monday by state health officials.

The report contradicts initial claims made by nursing homes and the families of coronavirus patients that a March 25 directive from state authorities requiring nursing homes to accept or readmit COVID-19 patients is what facilitated the outbreak in New York.

During the height of the outbreak, New York hospitals released over 6,300 recovering coronavirus patients into nursing home facilities across the state. The move was heavily criticized, and state authorities scrapped it by mid-May.

State authorities revealed that infections among nursing home employees were aligned with infection rates in highly impacted areas. A nursing home’s quality did not factor into whether or not it would experience a high number of coronavirus-related fatalities. Self-reported data from the nursing homes also shows that around a quarter of the state’s 158,000 nursing home workers tested positive for COVID-19 between March and early June.

As of press time, New York has 402,338 cases of COVID-19, including 31,911 deaths. (Related: New York, New Jersey and Connecticut to impose quarantine on travelers from states with big coronavirus outbreaks.)

Listen to this episode of the Health Ranger Report, a podcast by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, as he talks about how America will not be able to survive a second wave of lockdowns that may be imposed due to the impending second wave of coronavirus infections.

New York officials deny any criticism, calling it “ugly politics”

In a press conference on Monday, Gov. Andrew Cuomo went on the offensive, saying the idea that his directive helped spread the virus through the state was a “political conspiracy theory.” Cuomo has argued for weeks that infected nursing home workers, not released COVID-19 patients, were responsible for spreading the coronavirus, comparing it to “fire through dry grass.”

idiot above thinks this is the 1600 medicine man era.
doesnt realise that dna/rna identification is a real thing.
doent realise blood tests, scans, xrays and microscopes exist

idiot has been sold a job offer of a supplement salesmen under the pretence he can get rich by being told that all doctors also just sell supplements themselves(they did .. in 1600)

idiot is so out of date and so out of touch with reality. it still amazes me he thinks that the internet is not just some paper mystery that should exist in ghost stories.
how can he understand the basics of internet while denying science exists

take the CDC provisional numbers that have been mentioned many times in covid topics in this forum and also google can show you too

influenza kills only a few hundred people a week.
pneumonia kills only ~5k people a week.

take the wek of 4/4/2020
covid deaths were not 14k (meaning its not misleading people by combining any flu like illness/respiratory disease) as covid. but shows that its 9k covid... ~5k  other flus/non covid pneumonias

yep people are still tested and people still die due to other stuff.
but yes in the first week of april death counts were 2x higher than normal respiratory/flu stuff
remember that it takes time for people to die so it is early numbers from those getting it from the start of US lockdown in march, finaly surcumbing to the their illness in early april
the numbers for the following weeks 11th of april and 18th of april were even higher. and again show that the other flu and other pneumonia were about the same..
with ~15k covid and separately the same ~4-5k other flu/respiratory stuff

yes obviously lockdown restriction movement and reduced risk of passing the virus. which means by mid to late apil deaths due to covid flattened off and started to go down.
not because of any strange math or mis information of death certificates. but because less people were spreading it in april so less deaths.

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but now imagine how much worse things would be without lockdown

This is an escalation of the situation.
Ask yourself a question. How many people die every year from the flu virus? And the elderly population dies, as much from it. He is also contagious. But there is no this mass hysteria.
And how many cancer patients? many times more. So this is all someone needs