Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 143. (Read 29937 times)

It is getting crazier. It really appears China has underreported like it did with SARS and only know is the rest of the world finding out the severity of this epidemic. As for me I just try not go out as much since I don't have the masks needed to filter out the virus - they went out of stock pretty early.

My country has already cut off all travel to and from China and territories but many here believe it was too late, especially since the Chinese that were found to be sick were tourists and pretty much went island-hopping spreading their virus with them. Maybe within a few weeks we'll finally see how much locals they have infected.


I wish this would instead just be like the Great Beer Tsunami of 1814, which only killed 8 people directly. Any additional was probably from drinking the beer.

I'd not be surprised if the story was more-or-less accurate.  I notice that in the people of the Philippines to a degree and think it is laudable.  In fact I chose to live in a place where 'ordinary people' (maybe) will pick up the slack when the judicial and executive are not on the job and solve certain behavioral problems on their own if the problems are above a certain threshold.  It was a selling point to me.  I tend to feel that a vast majority of people don't want problems in their lives, and criminals represent problems, so they can and will resolve the problems on their own if forced to and if they have the right tools.  I trust the sense of the citizenry of a society more than I trust the political class and their hired muscle in a lot of cases.

I also have my doubts that the political classes will really be able to execute on directives from the likes of the United Nations very efficiently relative to many other countries.  If/when there is a technocratic dictatorship I am hopeful that there will be a little more breathing room in The Philippines compared to most of their neighbors for this reason (incompetence) alone.  Unfortunately I don't see an extra-ordinary appetite for 'freedom' among the population here.  At least that it would be something to fight for, and especially if they start being cut-out from the global economy of other populations who have 'gotten with the program.'  We'll see how things go.


I really cannot envision it being a wise move to 'go to the hospital' willingly in any sort of an epidemic environment.  Seems quite pointless and counter-productive to me.  I cannot see how one could possibly expect 'life support' and would be surprised if a person found so much as a nurse say two words to.  Many hospitals in The Philippines that I've seen are already pretty scary even without an epidemic.


I was out and about today.  Things were pretty normal.  Maybe a slightly higher percentage of people were wearing masks, but wearing on was still unusual and there were plenty of people about.  I have yet to see an n95 mask which would stop the virus from passing through, and it's looking more and more like this coronavirus has some unusual characteristics which render masks even more useless.

I harbor a strong suspicion that one of the main fall-outs from this event will be that 'they' will be able to try some things with new types of vaccines which would otherwise be expensive and time consuming validate.  My personal feeling is that 2019-nCoV might have been engineered and released for that purpose, but that's just me.  (I will say that if 2020 went by WITHOUT a so-called 'pandemic' I would have been surprised given the predictive programming, 'exercises' , stage of technological progress on RNA-vaccines, etc.)  Anyway, I personally am going to try to not have myself or my family be the Guinea-pigs If I can help it.  Yet another reason to stay away from hospitals.  I know from personal experience that a person and a doctor can agree to not do shots and if you turn your back for a moment the hospital does them anyway.  Best to just stay out of a compromising situation in the first place if it is at all possible.

I agree with you that these things have made things worse And China will not be able to handle it easily because the virus that has been infected with the Coronavirus has to keep itself clean, use mask indoors and outdoors, or it can become more lethal.

That Chinese guy in PH vid was a false positive BTW (it turns out it was a drunk) but it turns out that the country was ill-prepared. People started calling the police, 911, Red Cross, etc. and no one dared respond. The public took initiative and cordoned off the area themselves and attempted to follow the man when he stood up. A guard from a nearby establishment took the items the man left behind and dug a hole and dumped them in there.


This is why I don't mind hysteria during outbreaks like this. Prevention is still better. If you get infected you'd end up in the hospital where you'd be on life support or they offer you an experimental vaccine. It's best to not get sick at all.

It's funny that the PH government in an interview told its people that there's no need for them to wear masks after they announced the first death (and only then did they imposed a travel ban) and the replies were overwhelmingly "We'll just take precautions ourselves whether you suggest it or not".

Give them oranges!!!!

V-C even heals heart disease - https://jeffreydachmd.com/heart-disease-vitamin-c-and-linus-pauling2/.


Vitamin C Protects Against Coronavirus

I find the "ZH style" to be:
- dishonest
- inflammatory
- non-factual
- catering to an extremely selective audience and serving to profit from the reinforcement of their beliefs


I'm not ruling it out but I'm saying it is highly unlikely. Coming from a biology background I require proof of these sorts of assertions, which is why I know for certain that ZH's articles on the subject are bumpkiss.

Its like, didn't you guys even read the tweet that I posted that was later included in the article which undermined the premise of their entire fucking article? In so many words, they admitted they wrote a hacky, baseless story. Yet you guys keep believing it to be true. Why? What's in it for you other than you don't have to admit you believed a falsehood?


What does any of this have to do with the fact that this journalist exposed ZH for what they truly are? This was genuinely the first BF article I ever consciously read or remember reading. I don't give a shit about them. But because you do, it gives ZH credibility in their cowardly takedown of this journalist? Calling a journalist critical of one of your articles a pedophile instead of debunking their points is a logical response to you?

This entire section of the forum should be nuked from existence. Its an absolute cesspit of stupidity, weakness and ignorance. I've wasted entirely too much time here.

This mexican beer flu is big on hype and low on body count numbers, in fact it's seems on par with the common cold in spite of the fact it's full of sequences from great diseases like SARS, AIDS and Ebola.

tbf, I didn't take it that way either.

But ZH averages over 1m views a day, and I assume a decent chunk of them a prone to buying into these kind of things.  The issue isn't that they are lying, or even that they are trading outrage for clicks, posting the guys number and suggesting people contact him directly is crossing the line imo.  I know they found the info on the internet, and everyone has the internet, but they still put the idea of harassing the guy into peoples minds, and they made it way easier to do for those who wanted to.

I still didn't take it that way.  I took it that Dr. Zhou was definitely a leader in the field which produced the thing.  As such, he could be the 'man behind' it in a similar way that Einstein was the 'man behind' the atom bomb.

If all I knew is that there was a huge explosion which seemed to harness nuclear forces of the type which Einstein theorized about and I wanted to figure out more about what happened, I would start by asking Dr. Einstein if he knew of anyone who might have the means, motive, and opportunity to develop and deploy such a thing.

If someone has no interest it talking to Dr. Zhou then they have no interest in finding out any answers about the current issue.  That would only be the case if they had a pretty good idea of what they would find and no interest in finding it.  Or down here in peon-land it could just mean that they are a garden variety retard.

Headline: "Is This The Man Behind The Global Coronavirus Pandemic?"

Body: He's researching the viruses, and bats, and hiring people to help him, and the place he works is a lot like an evil corporation from a video game.

Conclusion: You should contact him.  Here's his email, phone number, photo and a map of where he works. 

Bingo.  I don't even have to bother to reply to Twitchy.  All the info they collated was in the public domain.  Someone just found it and wrote a very pertinent article about it.  Yes, written in ZH style which seems to be what really gets under certain people's skin (for bizarre reasons which we can only speculate about.)

I will say that I didn't take from the ZH article that Dr. Zhou would have been the guy to release the thing either on purpose or by accident.  As for talking to the guy, a whole lot of people should wish to do so for a whole lot of perfectly valid reasons.  Anyone who rules out biological engineering is deliberately blind and totally ignorant of the science of the last 30 or 40 years.  And ignorant of the current state of the analysis of 2019-nCoV at this time as well.  The good doctor could well be a valuable asset in getting to the bottom of what happened (and what has happened in the past and what will happen in the future over and over again until we-the-peeps have had enough.)

I will also say that I didn't remember some link to the world of elitist eugenics (which is a well documented thing) from reading the article.  Reading it again fails to produce such a link as well, or at least not an obvious one.  Screen caps or I'll assume that it is a thing which is limited to Twitch's mind.

If ZH made anything up about the BF guy in order to do their rebuttal the 'victim' has got a slam-dunk lawsuit, and nobody can tell me that BF doesn't have the funding to retain a few lawyers.  In today's climate they could almost certainly win a claim against ZH no matter what the details and who is guilty I would guess, but we've still got that pesky discovery thing and there are still independent contents outlets that won't necessarily cover up the damage.  For now.

After stumbling across a certain amount of BF content over the years, and trying to heal my bleeding eyes because of it, I have no trouble at all believing that the writer wants to be 'the Andy Warhol of hebephilia' or whatever it is that he is supposed to have written.  In fact I bet that half of the writers for that rag would like the same thing.  Until I see the guy prove that it is a malicious fabrication I'll assume it is probably true.

Zerohedge just publish an article containing data and facts from other credible sources, if the Wuhan Coronavirus is a bio-weapon or not is all conspiracy till proven.
But there are news that infected have been treated with HIV retrovirus medication.

They found a scientist in China that studied bats that can't get sick from the virus and then made it seem like he, or the people he worked with intentionally released it.  They also linked him to some wacky conspiracy theory involving purging the world of humans for a new start.  They posted his picture, email, work address, phone number and ended the article with "If anyone wants to find out what really caused the coronavirus pandemic that has infected thousands of people in China and around the globe, they should probably pay him a visit"

Buzzfeed was the first to call out ZH, and they have since been banned from twitter.  A few hours ago they made a post about an old tweet that the buzzfeed reporter doxxed someone else in 2012. For extra measure they also included a bunch of troll tweets from people that made a fake blogs and screenshots to make him look like a pedophile.
BuzzFeed Journo Reportedly Blogged About Pedo Fantasies, Rape Jokes And Doxing

The last WHO report!

https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200202-sitrep-13-ncov-v3.pdf?sfvrsn=195f4010_4

It is going too dangerous at this point, and speaking about other corona viruses (SARS) enjoy this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOg7mj1_-sk

I didn't see anything 'fake' in ZH's Dr. Zhou story, and indeed, most of what they say in most of their stories basically checks out when I bothered to research it.  Actual examples are welcome.  Surely there is someone cataloging ZH's most egregious fabrications considering that they are 'one of the worst' and influencial enough to matter.  Just point me to a link.

With respect to the Dr. Zhou story, I kind of appreciated specific documented information about who was interested in what (quite relevant) scientific endeavors in bioengineeringland.  It seems almost certain at this point that if 'we' are ever going to get to the bottom of 2019-nCoV, 'we' are going to have to at least consider who is doing what on the bio-engineering front.

The reaction that any and all 'mainstream journalist' have at even a suggestion that the ailment was caused by anything other than bat-eating Chinese tells me that a tiny group of someones are very very interested in diverting attention.  Call it 'conspiracy theory' or whatever you like.  Time and time it has proven a valuable logic tool to arrive at an accurate representation of the world for me.  Very often the plurality catches up in a few years and what was previously a 'conspiracy theory' mutates into an obvious and unchallenged reality.

Being banned from twitter is an event which elevates an entities credibility quite a lot.  It often gets said entity a spot on my 'daily rounds' visits when looking for news.

I used to scan ZH regularly maybe 3 or 4 years ago.  Maybe more.  Don't remember.  I didn't stop for any particular reason other than that there is better stuff out there and habits change.  Rarely (but not never) did I feel that they were deliberately mis-unforming, and I never really considered the 'pro-Trump' in a big way; more anti-douchbags who happened to have some bizarre hatred of the guy (for everything except what Trump is actually weak on.)  ZH didn't seem to be excessively beholden to certain (((chosen people))) and their multitude of pet projects.  Maybe things have changed in my time away.  I'll put them back on my to-scan list and see.

Twitter's actions did get ZH's Dr. Zhou story _widely_ read.  Maybe that was the point?

Censorship is always the solution right? All we need to do is keep the people who don't agree with us from speaking, and everything will be fine!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiHFVSQzrlQ

One person infect 2 - 3 more
And number of infected doubles in 6.4 days

I think this is more serious than what governments around the world says,
We are heading to a pandemic