could it be most project don't succeed? - page 7.

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Quote from: wedosgibas on November 04, 2019, 08:22:44 AM

Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

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Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?
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If they post a project on this forum, then some members this forum will examine whether this is a risk scam or is still feasible, if it is proven to be a scam, the account will be rewarded with red trust if it does not act. That's what I know so far, but the drawback, most of the accounts that post project announcements have a newbie rank, so they can make more in the future. Maybe, if this forum implements an identity verification / KYC system for an account, then I think it will be better.

Bitcointalk is not an exchange that ask for KYC to avoid money laundering, this forum was built on freedom and decentralized act for users, its all up to users to learn and always do their parts before investing on any new projects, do your own research which i belief will still safe your ass from scam projects

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Bitcoin talk is just having the thread it dont bother if thier was a scammers here in cryptocurrency. We have this report threads who is cappable with this scammers who waist our time to promote their project. Also scammers in our generation are already good enough to make a scammed project look like a real project,we all have that scenario about fake projects here for the investor.

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Quote from: Ararbermas on November 05, 2019, 12:10:10 AM

No one can determine easily how good the project nowadays mate . .especially those emerging projects because they have a good testimonials as well such some legitimate . This is very common strategy actually but unfortunately no one still can't determine which is scam and good project. Even here in forum. Wherein we can figure it out if its a scam or not once someone posted an accusations and making a thread.

at least with this forum we can find out that the project is a scam, so we do not continue the project. the power of news can influence the minds of investors. and isn't a project considered successful if it can raise funds according to their targets

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No one can determine easily how good the project nowadays mate . .especially those emerging projects because they have a good testimonials as well such some legitimate . This is very common strategy actually but unfortunately no one still can't determine which is scam and good project. Even here in forum. Wherein we can figure it out if its a scam or not once someone posted an accusations and making a thread.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

It's because scammers now know the no. of people who blindly invests in projects without doing a proper research. This has triggered scammers to create fake projects and create some traps to scam such.

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to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

Well these methods are something that I also don't like but this doesn't necessarily means a projects is a scam. Every project needs attention and with so many projects it's hard to get so I get it why projects look out for boosting services but this is something that a projects shouldn't go for.

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Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?

There are some sites which helps in tracking fake followers but doesn't covers all the social platforms. If their media page is not getting attention(in terms of comments) then it is most likely a boosted social profile.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

i get what your saying, but its kinda part of the freedom of this forum, scams are not moderated here.
Its up to each person to do their own research to make sure they know what and with whom they are investing their money with
Never invest what you can't afford to lose is the golden rule here. After a person has some experience just reading this forum, you can spot a scam a mile away no problem

thats the only way to really protect yourself and separate the scams from the gems here

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Quote from: NathanJB on November 04, 2019, 11:09:19 PM

Token creation is really very easy these days small children can make their own if they wish to. This is how the token creation platforms are making the creation of token very convenient even to scammers and experimenting people who have no actual idea how to develop a real project. And since the promotion of such tokens in social media sites and even in this forum is all free, there is now a swarm of useless tokens offered in the market.

A lot of greedy users take it as an advantage to victim newbie and unknowledgable users. although, we can't easily make an project but they have an dedication to do it because they have sponsor and support to other greedy users too, so many get victims on what their doings. a lot of exchanges has a useless and without value tokens and its ruin the market, hope they take action on it so that crypto can attract more newbie users in upcoming months and years.

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Quote from: gabmen on November 04, 2019, 11:00:51 PM

Quote from: Kambal2000 on November 04, 2019, 10:56:40 PM

Quote from: joshua123 on November 04, 2019, 10:52:38 PM

Quote from: Aabcde on November 04, 2019, 08:36:46 PM

It's good if bitcointalk has filters for these kinds of projects. But it must also be known that this is a free forum, everyone is obliged to protect themselves. Yes, indeed many guys will find out more about a project to find out the true identity of the project. But don't depend on other people's research results as well. At least train yourself to get used to doing research before plunging.

Actually forum has, but isn't automatic as like filtered and will be removed once known. We have mods and DT monitoring and observing some post in reputation and scam section which could be a source of primary removal and warning. It is self investigation, I dont think scam can automatically detected right away, if yes there is a really huge help and people will delighted to buy and use that whatever scam detector machine created.

This forum has no obligation at all to detect scams, but people are free to post scam projects that they have seen, which they have investigated in 'scam accusation section so that people can search it there their prospect project if it has currently accused as scam, if nothing yet, then it is our part and obligation to do investigation about the project before we will join bounty, or before we invest. This forum is just a tool for us to communicate freely, but still it's on our hands how we deal with scams.

Hence, it's called a forum

and with so many projects being released, almost everyday, those that want to put their money on a certain one needs to be a little more vigilant and diligent when it comes to studying the venture they're investing in. It should be pretty basic for any investor. Most of these projects are just platforms to get money from people, whether through investments of social media interactions. That's why a lot of simply won't succeed because there's no actual target.

That is why I say that we are obliged to look after ourselves and our assets. Because everyone has the opportunity to make a new project here, but the fact is whether it is a legit project or a project that only wants to find victims. What we need to know is who they are?, who promotes it?, is it really good?, is it just words made by marketing, is it a bounty manager who only cares about money, lots of questions arise.

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Quote from: Eildosa on November 04, 2019, 08:21:24 PM

The elders have a lot of other work to do. They are unlikely to be engaged in tracking projects. It's everyone's responsibility. If you decide to invest somewhere, it is only your responsibility.

This is very well said, it is our very own responsibility to assess a certain project whether it is legitimate or worth it to invest. This forum is a tool for learnings, a way for everyone to know about crypto-related concerns. There’s a section here to spread awareness that a project is a scam and not worthy of our time and money to invest.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

This concern has been raised for several times already and has been addressed minimally as it will take a huge effort in order to track and aired those scammed projects so we can avoid them.

But if someone will finance and create a platform that will definitely track those shit projects and stop them before they can launch then we can at least lessen those scam projects but we cannot stop them as there are genuine projects also that will end up scamming investors especially if they raise a huge amount of money and will run it at the end.

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Token creation is really very easy these days small children can make their own if they wish to. This is how the token creation platforms are making the creation of token very convenient even to scammers and experimenting people who have no actual idea how to develop a real project. And since the promotion of such tokens in social media sites and even in this forum is all free, there is now a swarm of useless tokens offered in the market.

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Quote from: Kambal2000 on November 04, 2019, 10:56:40 PM

Quote from: joshua123 on November 04, 2019, 10:52:38 PM

Quote from: Aabcde on November 04, 2019, 08:36:46 PM

It's good if bitcointalk has filters for these kinds of projects. But it must also be known that this is a free forum, everyone is obliged to protect themselves. Yes, indeed many guys will find out more about a project to find out the true identity of the project. But don't depend on other people's research results as well. At least train yourself to get used to doing research before plunging.

Actually forum has, but isn't automatic as like filtered and will be removed once known. We have mods and DT monitoring and observing some post in reputation and scam section which could be a source of primary removal and warning. It is self investigation, I dont think scam can automatically detected right away, if yes there is a really huge help and people will delighted to buy and use that whatever scam detector machine created.

This forum has no obligation at all to detect scams, but people are free to post scam projects that they have seen, which they have investigated in 'scam accusation section so that people can search it there their prospect project if it has currently accused as scam, if nothing yet, then it is our part and obligation to do investigation about the project before we will join bounty, or before we invest. This forum is just a tool for us to communicate freely, but still it's on our hands how we deal with scams.

Hence, it's called a forum

and with so many projects being released, almost everyday, those that want to put their money on a certain one needs to be a little more vigilant and diligent when it comes to studying the venture they're investing in. It should be pretty basic for any investor. Most of these projects are just platforms to get money from people, whether through investments of social media interactions. That's why a lot of simply won't succeed because there's no actual target.

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Quote from: joshua123 on November 04, 2019, 10:52:38 PM

Quote from: Aabcde on November 04, 2019, 08:36:46 PM

It's good if bitcointalk has filters for these kinds of projects. But it must also be known that this is a free forum, everyone is obliged to protect themselves. Yes, indeed many guys will find out more about a project to find out the true identity of the project. But don't depend on other people's research results as well. At least train yourself to get used to doing research before plunging.

Actually forum has, but isn't automatic as like filtered and will be removed once known. We have mods and DT monitoring and observing some post in reputation and scam section which could be a source of primary removal and warning. It is self investigation, I dont think scam can automatically detected right away, if yes there is a really huge help and people will delighted to buy and use that whatever scam detector machine created.

This forum has no obligation at all to detect scams, but people are free to post scam projects that they have seen, which they have investigated in 'scam accusation section so that people can search it there their prospect project if it has currently accused as scam, if nothing yet, then it is our part and obligation to do investigation about the project before we will join bounty, or before we invest. This forum is just a tool for us to communicate freely, but still it's on our hands how we deal with scams.

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Quote from: Aabcde on November 04, 2019, 08:36:46 PM

It's good if bitcointalk has filters for these kinds of projects. But it must also be known that this is a free forum, everyone is obliged to protect themselves. Yes, indeed many guys will find out more about a project to find out the true identity of the project. But don't depend on other people's research results as well. At least train yourself to get used to doing research before plunging.

Actually forum has, but isn't automatic as like filtered and will be removed once known. We have mods and DT monitoring and observing some post in reputation and scam section which could be a source of primary removal and warning. It is self investigation, I dont think scam can automatically detected right away, if yes there is a really huge help and people will delighted to buy and use that whatever scam detector machine created.

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It's good if bitcointalk has filters for these kinds of projects. But it must also be known that this is a free forum, everyone is obliged to protect themselves. Yes, indeed many guys will find out more about a project to find out the true identity of the project. But don't depend on other people's research results as well. At least train yourself to get used to doing research before plunging.

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The elders have a lot of other work to do. They are unlikely to be engaged in tracking projects. It's everyone's responsibility. If you decide to invest somewhere, it is only your responsibility.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Projects comes up in bitcointalk almost everyday, not only one or two, but many of them.
Do you expect the moderator of the forum to investigate all of them? It's not their job, tbh.
That is why they need our help, by us reporting such projects.

The world is full of scammers not only in cryptocurrency. And running a project without being scammed or tricked?
Well, you need to be very lucky to see how a legit projects are. Since even with the most credible project from your research, it doesn't mean that it was a legit one.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Forum is for everyone to promote , to earn and also to learn about crypto. Forum give this opportunity and I think BTT is not responsible for any scammed that will happen in the forum that's why there's a scam section that community will use to post what project is scam or suspicious to be scam. We as a community is the way to stop this scam project by giving warn the others in this forum, of course by deep searching of every projects back ground.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

Simply reason is that crypto is still fairly young at that point, less people involved in crypto-sphere.

Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

Yeah, definitely this is the place where scammers find this victims. Remember Facebook shutting down those crypto adds before?

Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

I guess it's no one responsibilities but ourselves, if you don't want to be fooled by those criminals here then you have to be very careful and research everything first. It's your own responsibility, not BTT or someone, although there are individuals here who really help us a lot by exposing scam projects, just go here, Scam Accusations.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 08:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

There are some members here who are very caring and always provide accurate information through Scam Accusations, it's enough to give a warning to other members to be more careful. And for accounts that are indicated to commit fraud will definitely be dealt with firmly, it can be in the form of red trust to banned. And this gives a lesson to each person to be more caring and careful before joining any project, and do a thorough analysis.

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