could it be most project don't succeed? - page 8.

tracyhayley

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?

you're not wrong. scam projects always make a bounty and airdrops programs. they always make affiliate program into their priority. yeah, they affected people to boost their social media. i always find crypto related group in my telegram and facebook page that always changed their name frequently. but i think bitcointalk can't do anything about this, it's not their fault. scam projects even hire a good bounty manager to make an ANN post about their project in this forum.

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Hello brother, we have a same feeling by the way. and this become a huge problem for us as a bounty hunter, especially as an Investor. too much scam project right now. since 2018 it's too hard for me rising an income from bounty. the probability only 1:10. only 1 success project from 10. but I have a solution if too hard for you doing due diligence for a project, you can try this thread.

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pixie85

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Most scam projects are not scams from the start. Their teams usually begin with a normal idea and invest some money into it but later decide to take the fast lane and exit scam. There are many different reasons behind their decisions.

Some are bored with the project some get so many clients early on and such a big amount of cash that they want it here and now and scam to be able to spend all that profit.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

Honestly it's not the entirely duty of bitcointalk admins to spot scam projects for everyone, it's individual due diligence that will curb scam projects. It's our duty to always research on projects before making any investment or promotion as bounty hunters, knowing fully well that most new projects have the intention of raising funds for the team and not project development. Well, I've seen a few projects whereby people declare some projects scam here on bitcointalk with proof, and it's really helpful.

Kiefner

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There are certain sites that show statistics of a particular project. But often they lie and show the wrong ratings. From this it follows that you can not trust anyone but yourself. Even if the forum will be the person who will monitor the projects, it still does not guarantee that such projects should be trusted.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Obviously, there is not much thing a public forum can do about it. Some conditions, such as collateral, may be used to counteract this issue. However, such conditions will aslo send away non-scam projects. It may be a solution for project owners to give a certain amount to the predetermined persons as collateral over a certain period of time. But not every project will be able to afford it.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

Initially, when the project itself appears, it is impossible to say whether it is fraudulent or not. To do this, you need to conduct a series of checks. I know for sure that it is in this forum that fraudsters are already actively taking clean water. Of course, you’re right that there were no fraudulent projects before, since this direction has just appeared and the projects raised a lot of money and, in principle, many were happy with the result. Now, most of the projects already at the initial stage turn out to be scammers, and those that bring the matter to the end of the unit. The most effective way to identify a fraudulent project is still the work of people in this forum, for which I especially thank them.

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Bitcointalk has been helping warn the community against suspicious projects which may potentially scam hunters. Once you check a bounty, some have warnings above like the one shown below. Also, there are threads that report scam projects with fake team members. https://imgur.com/a/SpnM8jS

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Quote from: Onuohakk on November 04, 2019, 11:46:49 AM

Bitcointalk forum is open for everyone to post announcement thread about their project. And you're been left with an option to research or report any suspicious act of the project. Btt can't force or tell you the project to join or not, you join by your own risk

Agree with you that everything is the right of everyone. want to join. investment is their respective rights. but when we get a project that turns out to be problematic can provide a report so that many people can be careful in investing. Regarding many projects that fail, it is undeniable, but I have a thought, aside from the scammer factor, they are also difficult to get funding and cannot go according to the roadmap.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to look into this
Please feel free to drop your comment

You know, I don't really agree with your point of view. There's the scams and nonsense projects which obviously have failed during recent times, because well... they were scams and nonsense.

So if we're talking about becoming ridiculously rich, I am quite sure that - indeed - that didn't succeed for most people and projects.

If you're talking about the blockchain as a concept of data decentralization, and not about sticking fictitious values onto tokens from useless projects and then pumping them and hoping to get out when you've gained 3 dollars - which is actually why 95% of the people on this forum are here, then you're wrong. We are not only talking about the projects which you read about on this forum, but about the daily life use of blockchain. As a matter of fact, I do have friends who create blockchains for private companies, to process data/documents/information/internal communication etc. "à la carte". I can tell you that these projects are very much alive.

Blockchain as the concept of pump and dump projects you're talking about, has become quite rare. Blockchain has become mature and it's about time some members of this forum do, too.

Cryptomiles1

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Quote from: Rodeo02 on November 04, 2019, 07:53:43 AM

But honestly its a good marketing idea if they just want a free boost and pay only tokens.

this will result gaining shit coin in our various wallets today. well just as they have said earlier, we just have to be careful at all time

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

They don't care about it, because if they were a scam they wouldn't be able to take advantage of it because nobody would be interested in their social media account pages.

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my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Bitcointalk does not know this, but if it has a bounty campaign and ann threads our members will know it right away and warn us immediately. Our moderators also give red trust to campaign managers who run scam campaigns so we are warned immediately .

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I think if there would be a way to track such people, BTT would make it for sure. But on the other hand, it is not BTTs job to track such scammers, people should learn more before taking part in such strange schemes.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Your questions are confusing, do you mean you want those campaign manager to show their identity so that we can track them? in that case its impossible, this forums respects the privacy of everyone.

Aside from that it is useless they are only campaign manager and not the founder of the project.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

hello everyone

I have came to think of something reasonable about some projects, today everyone just wakeup to create his project and introduced it to btt just for people to suffer and promote probably at last the project will not succeed and they will foldup why? everywhere and there having much projects trooping in the forum today but few succeeds.
today, tomorrow, next tomorrow came up with all such of tokens, or could it be they want to build their social media groups and pages then they will come create fuck token and disbursed to the people whose manage to follow them on their media page and at last such token has no value in the market. they will even stole some other project websites just to boost their pages. this is improper... We hear scam and thief everywhere due to not have a proper documentations about the ventures.
I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

to me this are the interest of those fake project.
1. they want to boost their facebook page
2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page
4. YouTube, ETC

my Questions

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

Let me rest my case here and I would like the elders of this forum to into this
drop your comment

Its not this forum duty to tell you which project is real or not, as an investor or bounty hunter its your own duty to do research on new projects and if you find a leak just post it on here with prove and the scammer profile will be given red trust

Onuohakk

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Bitcointalk forum is open for everyone to post announcement thread about their project. And you're been left with an option to research or report any suspicious act of the project. Btt can't force or tell you the project to join or not, you join by your own risk

Ferris419

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Most of the airdrop campaign does the giveaway to boost their social links and gather some active member on their telegram group! Creating an ERC20 token is absolutely no cost! But fake bounty campaign doesn't do this to boost their FB, twitter followers rather they do it to scam people's money!

And, Bitcointalk doesn't hold any responsibility in investment or Legit and scam projects! It is you, who needs to research hard before investing in a project, use Bitcointalk Forum as a hall of education, that will be enough!

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?
Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

There is no way for Bitcointalk as a forum to approve a project as almost all projects tend to bring their products and services into picture only AFTER conducting one or more exchange offerings. As a result, it is impossible to say if a project is legit or just a scam other than simple call outs like faking the team details, plagiarism in the white paper etc. which is cracked down by the infamous Sherlocks on the forum.

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Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?

The way the forum is structured, there is no way to track the accounts that come here to start up such projects. And the forum doesn't check the legibility of projects that are been advertised here.

Quote from: Cryptomiles1 on November 04, 2019, 07:05:43 AM

Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

The only way is to bring the project to the attention of the forum moderators, and that's only when there are verifiable evidences of scans from the group.

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I think earlier 2010 to 2015 there were no scam project even if there's, is just 1% but now is +-50%

Checking my bounty wallet I believe it's much higher could be 70%

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to me this are the interest of those fake project. 1. they want to boost their facebook page2. they want to boost their twitter page
3. LinkedIn page4. YouTube, ETC

You are right, one of them is LBX a project that paused their ICO, they used their bounty campaign, to increase subscribers to their newsletter and followers on their social media, at least they are sending the latest news about crypto in my inbox.

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Is there no other ways BTT can track and trace such people posting such project the in the forum?

Some members are doing that and reporting in the scam section, but it's not their obligation though

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Is there no way we can run free and fair project in the system without us being scammed or tricked?

This is an open forum, it's a free for all, anyway these scam projects are caught and exposed.

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