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sr. member
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December 03, 2014, 01:58:54 PM
#45
I always told myself if I ever met the real Satoshi standing in front of me, I would imagine he would be really really rich, brilliant kind of guy who is probably prefer to stay low profile all of life. And no, II'll never meet the real guy nor will ever have the chance to know his true identity. And that's a fact

I think I do.
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December 01, 2014, 09:12:23 AM
#44
I always told myself if I ever met the real Satoshi standing in front of me, I would imagine he would be really really rich, brilliant kind of guy who is probably prefer to stay low profile all of life. And no, II'll never meet the real guy nor will ever have the chance to know his true identity. And that's a fact
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December 01, 2014, 08:24:54 AM
#43
By the way, there are several notables in the history of crypto and Digital Currency who have been in the Netherlands.

David Chaum, had a Dutch girlfriend and launched DigiCash in Amsterdam..

also collaborated with...

Jeroen van de Graaf
Hans van Antwerpen
Eugene van Heyst

There was a nucleus of crypto and digital currency research around the university of Amsterdam in the 90s.

Ergo, there was probably at least 50 people in the Netherlands who had come across these ideas, friends, fellow academics, grad students etc etc, quite a nucleus.

I therefore propose that any one of these could have made that post, and it does not necessarily mean that any of them were Satoshi.
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November 29, 2014, 08:40:18 AM
#42
God damn that type of thing really plays with my mind. It could perfectly be him, just being a pioneer missunderstood genius.

Lol. Same with me. It seems like it really good be satoshi but there's not enough detail to say for sure. Has anyone done any other investigation into this guy? Maybe there is some other evidence hidden on the net somewhere?
newbie
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November 28, 2014, 08:36:20 PM
#41
haha im just reading all the hate comments saying hes smoking weed, not realistic. look at BTC now!

PS my first post!
newbie
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November 28, 2014, 08:05:24 PM
#40
Probably just a good pipedream someone had a while back and is likely just circumstantial / coincidental to bitcoin, but I suppose it's possible he later developed the ideas, but without a detailed explanation of the technology behind it I'm sure many people have proposed the idea of a digital peer-to-peer currency before, but it does have the hallmarks of bitcoin. Maybe it took him all this time to come up with a workable solution? Who knows. Interesting anyway.

the unlimited divisible part is striking you must admit! Wink
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November 27, 2014, 08:41:20 PM
#39
meh
another satoshi
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November 27, 2014, 08:31:38 PM
#38
This is an incredible document,and it is really concrete
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 08:18:49 PM
#37
So far, I have not found any statement from him on Bitcoin, which might be conspicuous in its absence considering his background.

He also has three brothers who are distinguished mathematicians.

So who are the known Dutch people in this forum?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=79.0
And which ones have considerable mathematical knowledge?


Silence speaks VOLUMES in this case...

I think we all just found Satoshi

Funny you google Lenstra and Bitcoin the #1 site

SOL ADONI or 247 News

haha

Now I can see people saying SOL ADONI is Satoshi

haha

https://www.google.com/search?q=lenstra+bitcoin

This is all you need to know about Crypto and all the main guys that invented all the crypto

And right in the middle of it all is Dr. Adoni calling them all thieves for stealing his 30 Mod Prime Algorithm which is what a student of Dr. Lenstra did he stole part of 30 Mod or the Ennisa Formula released in 1995 that had 30/60/90 mod prime theory fully explained, yet ten years later you had one of Lenstra PHD grad projects stealing 60Mod with the Atkin Sieve

http://247news.net/news/nsa-controls-wiki-professor/

So there you have it, Dr. Adoni is GOD OF CRYPTO and he pulls the stings
Page1 = Sol Adoni = 247news = 247poker. You are fooling nobody with that spelling, a sentence on each line. This is simple analysis of your writing style, the same type we use on Satoshi.
hero member
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November 27, 2014, 07:41:01 PM
#36
See how they mocked him? Who got the last laugh, though?

EDIT:Lol, see how one person who mocked him is called 'Miner'? Oh, the irony!!!
I had the same thoughts!  Sounds like him / her / them..
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 06:40:37 PM
#35
God damn that type of thing really plays with my mind. It could perfectly be him, just being a pioneer missunderstood genius.
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 03:33:46 PM
#34
So far, I have not found any statement from him on Bitcoin, which might be conspicuous in its absence considering his background.

He also has three brothers who are distinguished mathematicians.

So who are the known Dutch people in this forum?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=79.0
And which ones have considerable mathematical knowledge?
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November 27, 2014, 03:31:39 PM
#33

This person had a few major spelling errors not found in Lenstra's published papers, so maybe it's Lenstra making bad spelling errors since he is Dutch. His papers would be edited heavily. So you need to find examples of him with no editors.

Here's one of his papers, well done and probably heavily edited.


There's a big difference between writing a forum post and an academic paper.

Looking at the hypothesis from the opposite direction, what comments has Hendrik Lenstra ever made about Bitcoin?  

If he was satoshi surely he wouldn't say anything or at least try to distance himself from it?
newbie
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November 27, 2014, 03:27:54 PM
#32
One of the big pushers of bitcoin got his doctorate under him I read on another site, haven't seen him say boo on it.

All these crypto guys are inbred to each other like hillbillies

It's a small world, crypto
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 03:25:17 PM
#31
Looking at the hypothesis from the opposite direction, what comments has Hendrik Lenstra ever made about Bitcoin? 

legendary
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November 27, 2014, 02:58:35 PM
#30
Not significant by itself, but may provide further leads, his public email address from May 2000

[email protected].


That's Lenstra's email, are you saying that was the email of the guy in 2002 that put out the idea that some think is Satoshi?

Or are you saying yeah this is Lenstra's known email from 2000 era?

Lenstra is a major figure in crypto and that is a good reason to implicate him as Satoshi in that post above saying the main crypto guy in ECC that may have posted that 2002 post was in NL as the post to usenet came from there.

When you start looking at major crypto guys you have

USA Koblitz (curves used in btc)
NL Lenstra (created ECC)
Canada (several guys)
A few euro countries (several guys)

Maybe Lenstra was part of the group Satoshi.
newbie
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November 27, 2014, 02:49:47 PM
#29
Not significant by itself, but may provide further leads, his public email address from May 2000

[email protected].


That's Lenstra's email, are you saying that was the email of the guy in 2002 that put out the idea that some think is Satoshi?

Or are you saying yeah this is Lenstra's known email from 2000 era?



It might be useful in comparing known Lenstra writings with the vocabulary and sentence structure used by "x".

Quote
I have this idea of a future with virtual peer to peer banking. A kind of
decentralized and secured system. Gone would be the times that governments
and banks can track and interfere with our money transfers. Or even
interfere with the total amount of money on earth. My envisioned sytem would
have a fixed total amount of money. But each money unit (say virtual coin)
is divisable indefinitely. So a kind of deflation would replace inflation.
The total value of the money in the world would be a fixed number. It poses
no problem for liquidity, because the currency can be divided anytime.
However maybe people will not spend their money much, because it's value
will increase often. Other problems raise in the areas of security,
malicious use, and how to come towards such system from current systems?
These are just ideas, I like to hear comments or about net resources on this
subject.

Quote
Maybe the community can bypass the old powers (countries and governments).
It wouldn't be a revolution, but rather evolution. Slowly a new p2p system
might take over. The current monetary systems were mainly backed with gold
(not anymore now, to my knowledge). Maybe the underlying values of a virtual
peer to peer system could be other scarce resources, relatively easy to
exchange via internet. Examples are: computer processing power, bandwith and
data storage. These resources would make a limited peer to peer money
exchange system possible. Limited to the total real life value of all these
resources. However from that point other resources could back up the virtual
currency...

Quote
It is a step in the right direction indeed. Now replace the system operator
by a secure peer to peer system. And replace the underlying currency with
something else, or slowly uncouple the underlying currency. Then it would be
the system of my ideas...

For example, two posts end with elipses, two uses of the phrase "a kind of", three uses of the word "idea", in a brief sample of writing.





Lenstra is Dutch on the wiki page

This person had a few major spelling errors not found in Lenstra's published papers, so maybe it's Lenstra making bad spelling errors since he is Dutch. His papers would be edited heavily. So you need to find examples of him with no editors.

Here's one of his papers, well done and probably heavily edited.

http://www.ams.org/notices/200202/fea-lenstra.pdf
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November 27, 2014, 01:55:36 PM
#28
The idea of a peer to peer banking system isn't new, many people had dreamed about it or tried to make it and Satoshi probably wasn't the first one think about it. So there is little chance he could be Satoshi.
Paypal had semi-recently launched when this post was made, so I would think that the author of the post likely got the idea from p2p banking from paypal.

One major thing the post does not include that Bitcoin does have is the nodes checking the timestamp of transactions and only including the transaction that has the earliest timestamp.
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 01:53:41 PM
#27
Let's see if x steps forward to confirm or deny is satoshi-ness Cheesy /s
legendary
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November 27, 2014, 01:42:31 PM
#26
Not significant by itself, but may provide further leads, his public email address from May 2000

[email protected].


That's Lenstra's email, are you saying that was the email of the guy in 2002 that put out the idea that some think is Satoshi?

Or are you saying yeah this is Lenstra's known email from 2000 era?



It might be useful in comparing known Lenstra writings with the vocabulary and sentence structure used by "x".

Quote
I have this idea of a future with virtual peer to peer banking. A kind of
decentralized and secured system. Gone would be the times that governments
and banks can track and interfere with our money transfers. Or even
interfere with the total amount of money on earth. My envisioned sytem would
have a fixed total amount of money. But each money unit (say virtual coin)
is divisable indefinitely. So a kind of deflation would replace inflation.
The total value of the money in the world would be a fixed number. It poses
no problem for liquidity, because the currency can be divided anytime.
However maybe people will not spend their money much, because it's value
will increase often. Other problems raise in the areas of security,
malicious use, and how to come towards such system from current systems?
These are just ideas, I like to hear comments or about net resources on this
subject.

Quote
Maybe the community can bypass the old powers (countries and governments).
It wouldn't be a revolution, but rather evolution. Slowly a new p2p system
might take over. The current monetary systems were mainly backed with gold
(not anymore now, to my knowledge). Maybe the underlying values of a virtual
peer to peer system could be other scarce resources, relatively easy to
exchange via internet. Examples are: computer processing power, bandwith and
data storage. These resources would make a limited peer to peer money
exchange system possible. Limited to the total real life value of all these
resources. However from that point other resources could back up the virtual
currency...

Quote
It is a step in the right direction indeed. Now replace the system operator
by a secure peer to peer system. And replace the underlying currency with
something else, or slowly uncouple the underlying currency. Then it would be
the system of my ideas...

For example, two posts end with elipses, two uses of the phrase "a kind of", three uses of the word "idea", in a brief sample of writing.



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