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Money cannot be created out of nothing.
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Money cannot be created out of nothing.
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And yet there's Bitcoin
Topic: Counter to "Why Bitcoin is dropping ...buying." AMA format / doomsday debunked - page 4. (Read 5604 times)
January 07, 2015, 11:50:37 AM
And yet there's Bitcoin
January 07, 2015, 11:47:08 AM
January 07, 2015, 11:30:25 AM
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Nah, just keeping you from roping in more marks. And won't lie, the luls here are top notch.
Nah, just keeping you from roping in more marks. And won't lie, the luls here are top notch.
January 07, 2015, 11:24:53 AM
I guess my biggest question would be, why are you on a Bitcoin forum if you have no interest in Bitcoin?
Are you trying to "save us" from ourselves?
Are you trying to "save us" from ourselves?
January 07, 2015, 11:01:25 AM
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I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
And now after gods own country saved you you've found out waisting your life spitting poison on the bitcointalk forums is your destiny.
You seem too flustered to type. Take a few breaths and cool down 'til you can form a coherent sentence
The confessions of Notlambchop. Made my day lol
January 07, 2015, 10:56:16 AM
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I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
And now after gods own country saved you you've found out waisting your life spitting poison on the bitcointalk forums is your destiny.
You seem too flustered to type. Take a few breaths and cool down 'til you can form a coherent sentence
January 07, 2015, 10:50:26 AM
...what is the difference between 10 maffia thugs putting you in a cage unless you pay them, or 10 000 state-paid thugs doing the same (but carrying a police uniform or the robe of a judge instead of a leather jacket)...
None. That's why I'm going to come & live at your house, and won't pay you rent. Because there's no difference between charging rent and mafia thuggery either.
Please remodel & hire some good help before I move in--I wouldn't want to put up with substandard services.
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5. Yes, as far as making sure that no one else does, WWII certainly comes to mind. Of course, a privately funded militia of sulky middle-aged libers would have done the job far better, cheaper, and in half the time ...wait, aren't you French? Nevermind then, disregard.
No, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about all those goods and services OTHER than protection against violence that the state buys for you in your name with your extorted money. Like public services of bad quality and high cost that you don't ask for, wellfare that you don't ask for, military adventures abroad that you don't ask for, and a lot of people on a state's payroll with ill-defined tasks but important salaries that you have to pay for.
Living in a country is a package deal. Like renting a hotel room--you get charged for the pillow mints you didn't eat & the bed you haven't slept in.
Don't like the deal? Go to a different hotel, or sleep in the gutter. Give up your citizenship & GTFO like that petty criminal Ver (who is now whining that US won't give him an entry visa).
January 07, 2015, 10:47:08 AM
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I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
And now after gods own country saved you you've found out waisting your life spitting poison on the bitcointalk forums is your destiny.
January 07, 2015, 10:34:16 AM
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I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
Ah, then I can understand you of course. If you come out of Hell, of course the kitchen oven seems cold to you :-) and you do not understand people complaining about the heat.
But maybe you're not aware that even the western governments (more Europe than the USA probably) are slowly evolving in the same direction as the former Soviet Union: total state control of everything. Of course there's still more freedom in the west than under Stalin, but that's not difficult :-) But the amount of freedom is melting like snow in Hell.
January 07, 2015, 10:29:34 AM
Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography
Consider this:
1) someone with a gun puts that gun against your head and tells you to pay them half of your income.
2) ten strong guys put you in a cage and tell you they will let you out if you give them half of your income.
3) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you buy for half of your income, beany babies.
4) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you pay them half of your income, and then they will make sure that no other guys will put you in a cage again.
5) the gouvernment will put you in a cage unless you pay them half of your income, and in return they will make sure that nobody else will put you in a cage. On top of that, you get a museum of modern art for it which you can then visit by paying an entrance ticket.
Where's the difference ?
Hello my born-again libertarian friend! And what a purty hobby horse it is you're riding today, never seen one quite like it before, such original, very wow!
1-4: The reason it doesn't happen is I live in a country where there are laws, and enough muscle to enforce those laws in a meaningful way. Those musclebound jackbooted thugs work up a big appetite, so some of my taxes go towards buying them fresh children to eat.
Good things cost money.
The point was not whether it happened or not, but rather what is the difference between 10 maffia thugs putting you in a cage unless you pay them, or 10 000 state-paid thugs doing the same (but carrying a police uniform or the robe of a judge instead of a leather jacket).
A gedanken-experiment, if you like. What's the difference ? Why is the former "crime" and the latter "paying taxes" ? What's the fundamental difference as seen from the individual undergoing the action ?
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5. Yes, as far as making sure that no one else does, WWII certainly comes to mind. Of course, a privately funded militia of sulky middle-aged libers would have done the job far better, cheaper, and in half the time ...wait, aren't you French? Nevermind then, disregard.
No, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about all those goods and services OTHER than protection against violence that the state buys for you in your name with your extorted money. Like public services of bad quality and high cost that you don't ask for, wellfare that you don't ask for, military adventures abroad that you don't ask for, and a lot of people on a state's payroll with ill-defined tasks but important salaries that you have to pay for.
January 07, 2015, 10:13:42 AM
January 07, 2015, 08:35:13 AM
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I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
I live in US. My family moved here from Soviet Union. We were made to wait two and a half years for an exit visa. My father was jailed during that time for a protest demonstration which lasted all of 30 seconds.
So yeah, I moved to a country that "incarnate [sic] my political views." Now what the fuck have you done?
January 07, 2015, 08:28:24 AM
...Idk if he's french, but maybe you are? If not, you should ask for a Visa.
He is. I'm not. Been there.
Do you have a point, or just venting?
My point is that you should live in a country that incarnate your political views so you could experience how good they are, but I shouldn't bother since you're probably not sincere. Acting as a socialist jerk is perfect for trolling this board. You do what you have to do. Move along.
January 07, 2015, 08:13:11 AM
...Idk if he's french, but maybe you are? If not, you should ask for a Visa.
He is. I'm not. Been there.
Do you have a point, or just venting?
January 07, 2015, 08:07:46 AM
5. Yes, as far as making sure that no one else does, WWII certainly comes to mind. Of course, a privately funded militia of sulky middle-aged libers would have done the job far better, cheaper, and in half the time ...wait, aren't you French? Nevermind then, disregard.
For the record. 90% of french population is made of socialist jerks with exactly your arguments. Idk if he's french, but maybe you are? If not, you should ask for a Visa.
January 07, 2015, 07:02:45 AM
Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography
Consider this:
1) someone with a gun puts that gun against your head and tells you to pay them half of your income.
2) ten strong guys put you in a cage and tell you they will let you out if you give them half of your income.
3) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you buy for half of your income, beany babies.
4) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you pay them half of your income, and then they will make sure that no other guys will put you in a cage again.
5) the gouvernment will put you in a cage unless you pay them half of your income, and in return they will make sure that nobody else will put you in a cage. On top of that, you get a museum of modern art for it which you can then visit by paying an entrance ticket.
Where's the difference ?
Hello my born-again libertarian friend! And what a purty hobby horse it is you're riding today, never seen one quite like it before, such original, very wow!
1-4: The reason it doesn't happen is I live in a country where there are laws, and enough muscle to enforce those laws in a meaningful way. Those musclebound jackbooted thugs work up a big appetite, so some of my taxes go towards buying them fresh children to eat.
Good things cost money.
5. Yes, as far as making sure that no one else does, WWII certainly comes to mind. Of course, a privately funded militia of sulky middle-aged libers would have done the job far better, cheaper, and in half the time ...wait, aren't you French? Nevermind then, disregard.
January 07, 2015, 12:53:34 AM
Taxation is no more theft than Bitcoin is child pornography
Consider this:
1) someone with a gun puts that gun against your head and tells you to pay them half of your income.
2) ten strong guys put you in a cage and tell you they will let you out if you give them half of your income.
3) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you buy for half of your income, beany babies.
4) ten strong guys put you in a cage, and tell you they will let you out if you pay them half of your income, and then they will make sure that no other guys will put you in a cage again.
5) the gouvernment will put you in a cage unless you pay them half of your income, and in return they will make sure that nobody else will put you in a cage. On top of that, you get a museum of modern art for it which you can then visit by paying an entrance ticket.
Where's the difference ?
January 06, 2015, 10:27:37 PM
Man oh man. You need to get your arguments squared away and correct guy.
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For a guy that claims to be in the financial industry, reading your posts makes me think you're a teller who has sat in on a few loan officer meetings. I don't want to take away from this thread, I like your ideas and for facilitating a discussion, just don't parrot things. The world is much larger than the US and on the contrary, many countries are superior to the US in many ways.
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For a guy that claims to be in the financial industry, reading your posts makes me think you're a teller who has sat in on a few loan officer meetings. I don't want to take away from this thread, I like your ideas and for facilitating a discussion, just don't parrot things. The world is much larger than the US and on the contrary, many countries are superior to the US in many ways.
I mean come on. China, a fabricated economy? I'm an Australian, and I know that China is by far Australia's largest trading partner (both imports and exports). Unless Australia's economy is fabricated too, you've got some explaining to do.
January 06, 2015, 08:47:02 PM
1 What effect has the recent years of central bank commanded low interest rate had on the physical capital structure in the US and in the world?
2 Do you think that the current oil glut has something to do with the low interest rate?
2 Do you think that the current oil glut has something to do with the low interest rate?
January 06, 2015, 08:40:57 PM
Europe isn't teetering on collapse but Euro might need to be broken up and return to national currencies
Great Britain went through ups and downs after international trade moved away from Pound Sterling as a reserve currency. But as evidenced today UK is still powerful economy.
If your debt is denominated in your own currency, you have no risk for default. Not saying its good. Just the risk for default isnt there.
Great Britain went through ups and downs after international trade moved away from Pound Sterling as a reserve currency. But as evidenced today UK is still powerful economy.
If your debt is denominated in your own currency, you have no risk for default. Not saying its good. Just the risk for default isnt there.
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