Court documents are suggesting CSW may control 1.1m BTC. He is planning to sell! - page 2.

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Quote from: Saltius on July 09, 2019, 10:59:52 AM

So those documents being presented on court reffered by OP are exactly those considered forged ones denied by CSW in this link?

https://decrypt.co/7768/forged-documents-and-multi-billion-dollar-fortunes-craig-wright-faces-tough-questions-in-court

Indeed, it looks like such. He is kinda screwed, if this is the documentation he has to prove his case, IMHO.

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So those documents being presented on court reffered by OP are exactly those considered forged ones denied by CSW in this link?

https://decrypt.co/7768/forged-documents-and-multi-billion-dollar-fortunes-craig-wright-faces-tough-questions-in-court

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If such lot bitcoins comes to market,sure market will get shock.Bitcoin prize will goes down.But that happen only he sell those short period of days.If he sell those smoothly market will hold these support lines for long time.Journey to moon will continue.We do not know how he is going to do that.Lets watch..

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 09, 2019, 03:15:31 AM

Quote from: hv_ on July 09, 2019, 02:13:28 AM

Quote from: jameswell on July 08, 2019, 06:26:24 PM

I saw more trolling from BSV people. Remember BSV fans - Bitcoin is always the king.
If somehow Bitcoin fails, BSV and all other alts will fail.

Lol - do u want to predict future like Netscape guys did ?

Grin

Bad comparison. Plus you don't want Bitcoin to fail. Its failure will be the failure of all cryptocurrencies. If you believe that Bitcoin's failure will make BitcoinCash SV take its place, then you need to reasses your thought-process.

I was forced to re-asses when segshit was forced - so I'm fine

With Netscape = BlocksTreamCoin it works fine

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Quote from: hv_ on July 09, 2019, 02:13:28 AM

Quote from: jameswell on July 08, 2019, 06:26:24 PM

I saw more trolling from BSV people. Remember BSV fans - Bitcoin is always the king.
If somehow Bitcoin fails, BSV and all other alts will fail.

Lol - do u want to predict future like Netscape guys did ?

Grin

Bad comparison. Plus you don't want Bitcoin to fail. Its failure will be the failure of all cryptocurrencies. If you believe that Bitcoin's failure will make BitcoinCash SV take its place, then you need to reasses your thought-process.

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Quote from: jameswell on July 08, 2019, 06:26:24 PM

I saw more trolling from BSV people. Remember BSV fans - Bitcoin is always the king.
If somehow Bitcoin fails, BSV and all other alts will fail.

After a sharp rise during June, BSV is once again losing its value. During the past 2-3 weeks, the coin has lost more than 40% of its value against Bitcoin. And the mining difficulty for BSV also shows a corresponding drop. That explains why the BSV promoters such as Craig Wright are resorting to desperate measures to keep the coin afloat.

hv_

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Quote from: jameswell on July 08, 2019, 06:26:24 PM

I saw more trolling from BSV people. Remember BSV fans - Bitcoin is always the king.
If somehow Bitcoin fails, BSV and all other alts will fail.

Lol - do u want to predict future like Netscape guys did ?

Grin

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I saw more trolling from BSV people. Remember BSV fans - Bitcoin is always the king.
If somehow Bitcoin fails, BSV and all other alts will fail.

hv_

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So many trolls are just created by fear

https://mobile.twitter.com/berengerdcl/status/1148302543568683014

But they cannot fix

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Scared? Let him sell. Price will go down a bit, other people will take the chance and buy it all back. You people should know better how markets work, especially with bitcoin. It isn't easy to manipulate as the other little altcoins out there.

Potential trading profit if you catch it...

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 06, 2019, 01:26:13 PM

Quote from: 100bitcoin on July 06, 2019, 10:37:01 AM

Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 04, 2019, 03:30:48 PM

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Quote from: Lucius on July 04, 2019, 06:29:14 AM

All these nonsense coming from Faketoshi CW are getting pretty boring, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto he does not have 1.1 million BTC in his pocket. He's so brilliant scientist that he forgot how important is to backup private keys, so he can not prove anything.

And Kleiman wasn't Satoshi either, because if he was, someone would find some evidence already, but no one did. I don't follow the drama too closely, but from what I understand, CSW now claims that he and Kleiman were Satoshi together, and that 1 million coins is now held by some trust, which is laughable, because the real Satoshi would never do such a stupid thing as to entrust his coins to someone else- Bitcoin was created to be your own bank.

Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

Can you please elaborate a little more on this? Are not trusts liable to any taxation? Can any person or family create their own trust and have full control on the money/asset held under that trust?

No you can not have full control, you have to hand over full control to the trust or trusts. Conventional trusts are not free but a lot cheaper than taxes. Every circumstance is different.

Is there any legal protection against being cheated by trustees? What if the trust mishandle the assets under its stewardship?

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 08, 2019, 01:51:14 AM

Price drop to $1k per BTC Roll Eyes

Nope.. FUD can't take Bitcoin to that level. No matter how much Craig Wright try to scare away users from Bitcoin, no one will seriously take him unless he is able to prove the ownership of the coins that were mined in 2009. And in case some miracle happens and he is able to do so, even then Bitcoin may not crash to those levels. By now, Bitcoin has grown larger than Satoshi Nakamoto.

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Quote from: Wendigo on July 08, 2019, 01:51:14 AM

Price drop to $1k per BTC Roll Eyes

FUD.

What the anti-Bitcoin people don't understand is, the failure of Bitcoin will be the failure of ALL cryptocurrencies. But what they believe is, Bitcoin's failure should be guaranteed, for their shitcoins to takeover. No.

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Price drop to $1k per BTC Roll Eyes

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How much price deep is really possible for 1m BTC sell? Last I checked, Binance alone processes 0.1m+ BTC per day.

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Quote from: hv_ on July 06, 2019, 06:02:42 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 06, 2019, 05:45:26 AM

Quote from: Slow death on July 05, 2019, 03:41:36 PM

Quote from: hv_ on July 05, 2019, 10:08:01 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on July 05, 2019, 06:28:17 AM

Are those the same documents from 2011 or 2012 that was later exposed as fake, because the font that was used was not invented until 2015?

How was that really 'exposed' ? Did you see proper forensics ?

Nope - just folled the herd Roll Eyes

See the news:

Quote from: https://cointelegraph.com/news/craig-wright-uses-falsified-docs-to-prove-innocence-in-kleiman-case

While the presented deed of trust document is ostensibly dated Oct. 23, 2012, the metadata of the file indicates that the document was actually created after the death of Kleiman, as Palley found. The trust document apparently uses a 2015 copyright notice related to Calibri, the Microsoft Word font, indicating that the document could not be from earlier.

Source: https://cointelegraph.com/news/craig-wright-uses-falsified-docs-to-prove-innocence-in-kleiman-case

Faketshi will eventually be unmasked as a big fake. He is a shame for the crypto world. for a guy who claims to be satoshi he's reveals to be a guy with serious mental problems

OK, we are talking about the same court documents. I first saw it from a lawyer's tweet, https://twitter.com/stephendpalley/status/1146522818949144577

hv_, are you actually trying to defend Craig Wright? You can start telling everyone how good "Satoshi" is in hiding his real identity. He is actually having it proven in court that he's not "Satoshi". Hahahaha!

I just recommend anyone to do proper research and not listen to biggest noise and hobby tweeters

E.g. find the full transcript of the hearing/ questionary. It s out.

Did you read it? Care to share what it said, and update the topic? Thanks. It's better than being passive-aggressive.

Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 06, 2019, 10:04:13 AM

Quote from: ubay on July 06, 2019, 09:55:30 AM

If that happens, then there will be a problem where the price of bitcoin will drop dramatically, and that's where the rush to buy it. It's his right if he wants to sell all the bitcoins he has.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51229651

Only BitcoinCash SV people would like that.

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Mining is profitable even if the price is low , so is trading , if they actually plan on selling such a huge amount why are they telling everyone ?
People will tend to sell and which will drop the price thus they will actually loose a certain amount of money , therefore what I think is they are not trying to do whatever they have stated.
Even if they are thinking of doing it , it's not straight to the point .
They simply plan on manipulating the market and they do not seem to care for general people in the market itself .
Don't get alarmed guys , we will recover even if something like this happens.

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Simple manipulation. There are some doubts about this post. Miners will go from BTC only in case if BTC price won't increase. But after history, btc price increases after halving.

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Quote from: 100bitcoin on July 06, 2019, 10:37:01 AM

Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 04, 2019, 03:30:48 PM

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on July 04, 2019, 02:08:52 PM

Quote from: Lucius on July 04, 2019, 06:29:14 AM

All these nonsense coming from Faketoshi CW are getting pretty boring, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto he does not have 1.1 million BTC in his pocket. He's so brilliant scientist that he forgot how important is to backup private keys, so he can not prove anything.

And Kleiman wasn't Satoshi either, because if he was, someone would find some evidence already, but no one did. I don't follow the drama too closely, but from what I understand, CSW now claims that he and Kleiman were Satoshi together, and that 1 million coins is now held by some trust, which is laughable, because the real Satoshi would never do such a stupid thing as to entrust his coins to someone else- Bitcoin was created to be your own bank.

Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

Can you please elaborate a little more on this? Are not trusts liable to any taxation? Can any person or family create their own trust and have full control on the money/asset held under that trust?

No you can not have full control, you have to hand over full control to the trust or trusts. Conventional trusts are not free but a lot cheaper than taxes. Every circumstance is different.
Foundations is another way like Bill Gates (Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation). If he wants to be charitable he can just some millions to any charity he would not need a foundation which then send millions to a charity of his choosing.
IKEA (very complex setup as it also prevents a hostile take over) or Ethereum are also not for profit foundations.

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Quote from: ðºÞæ on July 04, 2019, 03:30:48 PM

Quote from: hatshepsut93 on July 04, 2019, 02:08:52 PM

Quote from: Lucius on July 04, 2019, 06:29:14 AM

All these nonsense coming from Faketoshi CW are getting pretty boring, he is not Satoshi Nakamoto he does not have 1.1 million BTC in his pocket. He's so brilliant scientist that he forgot how important is to backup private keys, so he can not prove anything.

And Kleiman wasn't Satoshi either, because if he was, someone would find some evidence already, but no one did. I don't follow the drama too closely, but from what I understand, CSW now claims that he and Kleiman were Satoshi together, and that 1 million coins is now held by some trust, which is laughable, because the real Satoshi would never do such a stupid thing as to entrust his coins to someone else- Bitcoin was created to be your own bank.

Trusts exist for a reason. Ask the queen of England, she will tell you that she owns some dirty underwear and thats it, everything else is in a trust.

Can you please elaborate a little more on this? Are not trusts liable to any taxation? Can any person or family create their own trust and have full control on the money/asset held under that trust?

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