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Quote from: proscratcher on September 05, 2020, 09:56:47 PM

More than 150 coronavirus vaccines are in development across the world—and hopes are high to bring one to market in record time to ease the global crisis. Several efforts are underway to help make that possible, including the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed initiative, which has pledged $10 billion and aims to develop and deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective coronavirus vaccine by January 2021. The World Health Organization is also coordinating global efforts to develop a vaccine, with an eye toward delivering two billion doses by the end of 2021.

The news about vaccines in the US like with the Pharmaceutical Company, Pfizer. As the news says, they'll likely give the result of the clinical trial by the end of October.

It's not that long wait that we need to. Some of the news is misleading as they are already expecting that it's the actual vaccine but, most of the news says that it's the late-stage result for the trial of the vaccine that they are developing.

Once this vaccine is approved and proven, economic growth will start to be back again.

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@ GDragon, I understand that your concerns. There may be additional side effects for this vaccine, in population groups which are outside the 18-45 age group and also those who have underlying medical conditions (diabetes, hypertension or even obesity). But why can't we vaccinate the others? I am talking about those in 18-45 age group, who doesn't have any comorbidities. That will slow down the spread of the pandemic, right?

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Quote from: bryant.coleman on September 05, 2020, 12:30:29 AM

Quote from: GDragon on September 04, 2020, 09:09:25 AM

That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!

There is good news for Sputnik V. Yesterday a report from The Lancet (one of the most reputed medical journals in the world) confirmed that Sputnik V was 100% successful in producing antibodies against the Coronavirus for those who participated in the Phase 3 testing. But these trials involved only 38 individuals and more people may need to be tested before the WHO would certify the vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54036221

I just read the article and yup there are only 38 participants, we have to wait for the results of the 40,000 participants. The first trial are age 18-60 for 42 days, and those are healthy. We should know the complications it has for older people and who are sick and other medical conditions. I hope this vaccine will prove itself with that. I'm hoping this is it, but really, Sputnik V has a long way to go.

Also read that the most common side effects of this vaccine trial are joint pains and headaches. Is there any side effects for other people who has underlying medical conditions? We need an answer for that.

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More than 150 coronavirus vaccines are in development across the world—and hopes are high to bring one to market in record time to ease the global crisis. Several efforts are underway to help make that possible, including the U.S. government’s Operation Warp Speed initiative, which has pledged $10 billion and aims to develop and deliver 300 million doses of a safe, effective coronavirus vaccine by January 2021. The World Health Organization is also coordinating global efforts to develop a vaccine, with an eye toward delivering two billion doses by the end of 2021.

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The discovery of the coronavirus vaccine will boost the human body's immune system which will fight the virus and prevent it from getting sick. But there are many differences between vaccines and improving the economy it is a matter of time before the economy is damaged by the epidemic. Although efforts at economic transition have already begun in the country there is a lot of controversy over whether the vaccine will be successful, given that the threat of virus infection will not improve the business environment.

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Quote from: GDragon on September 04, 2020, 09:09:25 AM

That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!

There is good news for Sputnik V. Yesterday a report from The Lancet (one of the most reputed medical journals in the world) confirmed that Sputnik V was 100% successful in producing antibodies against the Coronavirus for those who participated in the Phase 3 testing. But these trials involved only 38 individuals and more people may need to be tested before the WHO would certify the vaccine.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54036221

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Quote from: Ronaldcoin2017 on September 03, 2020, 07:53:34 AM

We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.

Nope. Vaccine is not "almost there". Not even the third phase trials have been completed for vaccines from AstraZeneca and Moderna. It may take at least 6-7 months for these vaccines to appear at the market and even more time to make them available for any mass-immunization programs. Then you have the Sputnik V vaccine from Russia which is already available from the market. But the WHO hasn't given approval for this vaccine.

That sputnik V vaccine is only available for phase 3 testing tho! It wasn't even a confirmed and safe vaccine as of now. There are news that once it pass the phase 3, they want to mass produce it asap, but nope! It still requires phase 4, we cannot rely on vaccines that are created without the proper testing.

There are more than 10 vaccines that are trying to be tested for phase 3 in our country, I just hope no side effects would emerge from the people who are trying these vaccines, I am hoping for a vaccine too, but a vaccine that has gone through the right process of course!

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Quote from: Sapphire915 on September 04, 2020, 02:08:54 AM

Several countries were in the final phase of Vaccine trials for covid-19. Whichever of them may release the cure first, i still have some doubts and won't try to participate the trial. Some people are willing to, though a lot are still cautious because of what happened with Dengvaxia vaccine in the past. But, if this vaccine which is being made in a hurry will have positive and excellent feedback then its great. The economy then will grow eventually.

yeah china too were a bit hasty to announce that their vaccine is in the last trial and that is by testing it to the huma body. Whoever volunteers to be injected by this trial and get side effect then we still have to wait for another vaccine to effectively fight the transmission or stop the pandemic.

However, there should be responsble in this pandemic. Someone should pay the damages brought and to blame with the result of huge number of casualties and sickness because of covid19 all over the world.

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Several countries were in the final phase of Vaccine trials for covid-19. Whichever of them may release the cure first, i still have some doubts and won't try to participate the trial. Some people are willing to, though a lot are still cautious because of what happened with Dengvaxia vaccine in the past. But, if this vaccine which is being made in a hurry will have positive and excellent feedback then its great. The economy then will grow eventually.

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Quote from: Ronaldcoin2017 on September 03, 2020, 07:53:34 AM

We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.

Nope. Vaccine is not "almost there". Not even the third phase trials have been completed for vaccines from AstraZeneca and Moderna. It may take at least 6-7 months for these vaccines to appear at the market and even more time to make them available for any mass-immunization programs. Then you have the Sputnik V vaccine from Russia which is already available from the market. But the WHO hasn't given approval for this vaccine.

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We are all worried about the situation during pandemic because everthing is now limited and we cannot really easily go to work everyone is afraid, but i believe that the pandemic will soon end because the vaccine is almost there and i think economy will rise again. All we need to do is to wait for the vaccine and live a normal life without fear.

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In this pandemic situation, people are worried about their life, economy, and future. Among them, life is the most important thing that should have been secure. If life is secure then we can concern about our earnings. But if we are not fit then no means to create a fund for the future. COVID-19 vaccine is highly needed for our life world wide but it is a complex process. Maybe it will take some more time. if you get it then the economy can grow rapidly.

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Yeah, I’m afraid of taking any vaccine if there is no proof that there wouldn’t be any side effects and that it actually works. Then another question I do ask myself is that if everyone continues to be afraid of the vaccine how are we going to know that it actually works and that there are no side effects? Lol okay I am asking this because I don’t really know the process that goes into creating vaccines, but I’ve heard that they test it on animals (not really sure of that), but is that enough to validate the vaccines? Huh

Damn, this is going to be a big issue, but seriously I am not ready for any vaccine if there is no proof.

I prefer not to have vaccines too as there is also a previous misuse of vaccines in my country regarding dengue. Many fears having vaccines now. If covid vaccine will be proven effective and already tested in different countries that maybe the only time my country will procure a lot as we almost lose our budget now and I don't think mass vaccine is in the budget yet. We're still on the process of recovering or starting to recover in economy as we were still in lockdown.

I think that everything will be completely normal by 2022, or even later. Now all vaccines are still at the stage of testing and development - so in 2020 if someone releases it, then a lot of distrust will be caused to such an invention (Hello Russia). And given the new trend to refuse vaccinations (I know a lot of people who live like this) then in 2021, nothing breakthrough will happen for sure.
I wonder if there will be any sanctions against anti-vaccinators

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Quote from: kotajikikox on August 26, 2020, 06:42:37 AM

World has no choice but to try everything to find the cure to this Virus,either this test will succeed or not who knows and who cares?
What do you want we just expect the perfect cure instantly?there is no such thing because the medicine must be tried out for People and not for animals so this test must happen,if it is not the right cure then scientist will still seek for the right one and this is must happen.

Some of the experts actually asked the vaccine manufacturers to speed up the Phase 3 clinical trials, by deliberately infecting the vaccinated individuals with the Coronavirus. But the medical community rejected this suggestion, because they argued that it was unethical and immoral. I still believe that if this was done, then we may be having a working vaccine against COVID 19 now.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on August 26, 2020, 01:10:18 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2020, 07:19:29 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on August 25, 2020, 03:57:29 AM

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.

Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.

World has no choice but to try everything to find the cure to this Virus,either this test will succeed or not who knows and who cares?
What do you want we just expect the perfect cure instantly?there is no such thing because the medicine must be tried out for People and not for animals so this test must happen,if it is not the right cure then scientist will still seek for the right one and this is must happen.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on August 26, 2020, 01:10:18 AM

Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2020, 07:19:29 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on August 25, 2020, 03:57:29 AM

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.

Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.

everyone also knows that it is no longer news that can be covered, about vaccines have been discovered by the Chinese state, and have been distributed to several countries for clinical trials that are adjusted to the culture of each given country. and I also know that the vaccine is already in the third phase, which is just one step away because the third phase is testing it already on humans. and this test is also strictly controlled.

If it has been successful, there are still several more stages, namely the permit that must be issued and after the mass production permit and all of these periods it will take time but at least there are improvements.
because we are chased by time and we have to act fast and not verbose because it could cause another pandemic that could occur if there is no certainty with vaccines, let them work and we pray that a vaccine can be found soon.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on August 25, 2020, 07:19:29 AM

Quote from: Furious 7 on August 25, 2020, 03:57:29 AM

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
...

As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.

Indeed, at this time it is still in the testing stage, but for me it still has to be watched out if it is true that the test has not been completely successful, I am afraid that it will worry many people with this trial and this is still a polemic as well as whether the vaccine has actually been found. the world news also has no such statement yet so it is better not to have the need for people who do not believe in vaccines.

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Quote from: Furious 7 on August 25, 2020, 03:57:29 AM

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.
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As far as I know, that might be a part of the testing since most of the vaccines in the test are in phase 3. Some of my countrymen are also included in those tests and it makes me worry since that is a huge risk being taken by these people. The effects are still being observed and once we finish all of that testings, the productions time is the next problem.

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Quote from: Janation on August 25, 2020, 03:29:40 AM

Quote from: dondonk on August 23, 2020, 12:26:03 PM

During this pandemic I took care of myself as best I could by keeping my immune system good. If I am offered the vaccine for free in the near future, I will refuse it. something rushed will present problems that will arise in the future. It would be better if you wait for the right time at least 5 years.

That would be unbearable.

To people, to the country and to the economy. 5 years is so long that nobody knows what will happen at that time, the virus could evolve, economies could crumble and the country's debt might also blow up. That is the reason they are doing what they cand to finish the testing of the vaccine. Right now we are Phase 3 on the Chinese vaccine, as far as I know, it is the same with the Russian vaccine.

In my country there have also been several people who have tried to test a vaccine that comes from this but I see that there is still no development and must do further research, therefore it is better to protect the body than to have to try a vaccine that will not necessarily cure it.

If it is an economic problem, of course the government will do its best and maintain their economic stability and now I see it well, I am not like at the beginning of the pandemic.

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Quote from: dondonk on August 23, 2020, 12:26:03 PM

During this pandemic I took care of myself as best I could by keeping my immune system good. If I am offered the vaccine for free in the near future, I will refuse it. something rushed will present problems that will arise in the future. It would be better if you wait for the right time at least 5 years.

That would be unbearable.

To people, to the country and to the economy. 5 years is so long that nobody knows what will happen at that time, the virus could evolve, economies could crumble and the country's debt might also blow up. That is the reason they are doing what they cand to finish the testing of the vaccine. Right now we are Phase 3 on the Chinese vaccine, as far as I know, it is the same with the Russian vaccine.

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