Topic: Craig Wright Gavin Andresen = PLOT - page 2. (Read 2969 times)
The news caused some pretty significant price drop, a drop which would have been bigger if what was broadcasted was true but most news outlets still went ahead and published their reports with no substantial fact checking. Craig knew that many major news outlets were gullible and perhaps that's why he contacted several. Whoever knew about this in advance could have benefited by sorting bitcoin or being ready to buy in after the drop for same-day profits. You should also consider that Gavin has most probably signed an NDA as Andreas was asked to do (and declined) in order to verify Satoshi's identity. If Gavin was gullible enough to do that in the first place, it's likely that he's not allowed to disclose that he was lied to. The rest of Gavin's comments are just attempts to not worsen his public image.
Simple:
1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place
Jus my tree fiddy
1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place
Jus my tree fiddy
tree fiddy satoshi
Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin, this guy was a worshipped God, now, he's an outlaw??
easily paid off to say what is needed
But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?
Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.
I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash. If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic. So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi. He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion.
Not 0%
Arguably, he made a bad strategic decision to give up the lead developer role. If he was still lead dev, he could decide core's priorities between big blocks and seg witness.
No he couldn't-- the comment betrays a misunderstanding of how Bitcoin and open source development works. "Lead dev" is not a position of authority, and if he wanted to push in a direction the contributors didn't agree with, he'd find himself where he is now, regardless of what happened there...
"What is too terrible to be spoken, must be wept.
What is too terrible to weep, can only be laughed."
What is too terrible to weep, can only be laughed."
Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin, this guy was a worshipped God, now, he's an outlaw??
easily paid off to say what is needed
LOL. Gavin has lots of coins. He actually had so much he managed to give away 10,000 BTC via the faucet he set up back in the day to promote bitcoin (which was dispensing 1BTC a go).
Could you prove this, that's too simple. "back in the day" Bitcoin was unrecognized, and worthless, give us the address these transactions were sent from, proving it's Gavins, so we can evaluate the price per btc at that time period, and reevaluate the worth of the address (at least what is left in it) at this time period?
"Back in the day" a group of kids purchased pizza worth about £3.00 for 10,000k btc. I'm really trying hard to see your point.
he got extremely greedy, wanted more power, so he wanted to divide Bitcoin but failed hard
Arguably, he made a bad strategic decision to give up the lead developer role. If he was still lead dev, he could decide core's priorities between big blocks and seg witness.
This looks pretty bad for his credibility though.
So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.
That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?
So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.
That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?
That's one of the deeper darker theories I have heard.
So pathetic from Gavin... I wonder if it was for the money or if it is for the Craig messiah to backup his forks that he did that.
That's the real question from all of today's news. I can't see Gavin being so foolish to blindly accept and blog about it like some teenage fan.My above posting explains the situation he could be in. Why care about your image when your life is on the line?
Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin, this guy was a worshipped God, now, he's an outlaw??
easily paid off to say what is needed
But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?
Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.
I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash. If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic. So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi. He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion.
So I actually was trying to come up ideas about what the hell is happening and had this thought to. Wright is some mentally unstable guy, and Gavin is using this to divert attention from himself.
But am not sure it's very plausible. I mean, if he was trying to divert attention, why would he jump right in the middle of the whole thing?
Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin, this guy was a worshipped God, now, he's an outlaw??
easily paid off to say what is needed
LOL. Gavin has lots of coins. He actually had so much he managed to give away 10,000 BTC via the faucet he set up back in the day to promote bitcoin (which was dispensing 1BTC a go).
Simple:
1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place
Jus my tree fiddy
1. Bradley Manning came out with these brutal helicopter videos and Wikileaks published them
2. USG tried desperately to dry out Wikileaks by closing their Paypal account which was used for donations
3. Wikileaks decided to accept Bitcoin instead
4. USG first heard about Bitcoin and was pretty angry about this "Bitcoin thing" and how it can be worth more than a Dollar and infiltrate their power
5. They found out about the Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto and used their NSA surveillance program to find the real person responsible for this Bitcoin mess
6. CIA visited Satoshi in person and made clear, that the Dollar is here to stay and Bitcoin has to leave and they made him an offer. Satoshi refused and was terminated without revealing his private keys
7. CIA invites Gavin as being the number 2 on the list. Gavin agrees and he was flipped to take control over the Bitcoin protocol (edit: they probably have shown a picture of Satoshi after termination to convince Gavin pretty quick)
8. After various attempts to fork Bitcoin, he lost his good reputation, but he is there between a rock and a hard place
Jus my tree fiddy
I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?
Me. I wouldn't.
The "Real" Satoshi has no reason to claim that identity. None. He absolutely knows why he was using a pseudonym in the first place, and he knows it's too valuable to destroy. Steve Wright is in no way prepared for the shit storm that would happen to him if his claim were true and he were so inutterably stupid as to provide actual proof of it.
Faketoshi ( let's turn it mainstream so media understands)
Quick question — can someone please tell me what has happened to Gavin. When I first discovered Bitcoin, this guy was a worshipped God, now, he's an outlaw??
easily paid off to say what is needed
But I have read people on here saying that Gavin was a very early adopter so he should have saved a lot of coins and money was not the problem here. Perhaps his motives were purely based on desire for more power and the ability to influence the Bitcoin core development as he wishes. Is it money or power or is it something else?
Gavin's on record in stating that he has enough coins to retire, expressed during the heated debated of if he should be paid via TBF for his coding service, later revealed he earned over a quarter of a million dollars for his efforts then headed on over to MIT to get paid for his bitcoin related services over there.
I'll just throw this crazy idea out there: what if Gavin is Satoshi and he is using Wright as cover because he wants to be able to sell some of his btc stash. If Gavin was Satoshi, he might want to sell some of his coins without admitting he was Satoshi, and without creating a market panic. So he hears about this crazy Wright guy, who for whatever reason wants to claim he is Satoshi. He realizes if he backs up Wright's story, that when he (Gavin) sells some btc from Satoshi's stash, Wright will be forced to explain it (even though Wright has nothing to do with the sale) giving Gavin the perfect cover and creating helpful confusion.
In Gavin's own words, he had email conversations with Craig that led him to believe there was a very good chance he might be talking to the real satoshi. This was before he bought the plane ticket.
Coming from someone who spoke extensively with satoshi throughout 2010/2011.
So yes, I'd say there's a very good chance his curiosity got the better of him.
I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?
Coming from someone who spoke extensively with satoshi throughout 2010/2011.
So yes, I'd say there's a very good chance his curiosity got the better of him.
I mean, who wouldn't want to meet the real satoshi if they thought there was a good chance it's actually him?
Well hopefully a cryptography proof is given as well, because to trick someone socially with just conversation is much much easier. I would be curious as well if someone shared what only Satoshi an I could know, but still, a signed message is worth much much more.
Hopefully this can be sorted out soon.
Gavin lost all his credibility long ago, Craig write has atleast 1 scam accusation that I have seen.
Looks like (as someone else said) a false second coming of the messiah.
I don't belive Craig is Satoshi. He disappeared for a reason so why come out now, with no proff to boot. Nice try but put up or shut up, move some coins or gtfo.
Looks like (as someone else said) a false second coming of the messiah.
I don't belive Craig is Satoshi. He disappeared for a reason so why come out now, with no proff to boot. Nice try but put up or shut up, move some coins or gtfo.
lol everyone on this subject is so crazy the bitcoin price is droping though and that worrys me
Can you provide a link for that, quantus?
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