Topic: Craig Wright to move coins from an early (associated with the genesis?!) block? (Read 5035 times)
May 04, 2016, 11:44:43 PM
Have any coins been moved yet?
May 04, 2016, 08:32:16 PM
I think that's what he's trying to do. Win the lottery. If the right people believe he's Satoshi, he might get away with 54 million (Australian Dollars?) or whatever he needs.
May 04, 2016, 08:30:49 PM
This is just getting more and more silly.
The chances of someone in the world being a brilliant enough con-man to trick Gavin AND is willing to go through all this trouble and risk to attempt it AND doesn't have a conscience is not that low.
But the chances that such a person just happened to have helped Satoshi Nakamoto create/test bitcoin, AND knows who Satoshi is (despite the fact that the whole world has been searching for Satoshi to no success)?
You're better off trying to win the lottery every single week for a year.
The chances of someone in the world being a brilliant enough con-man to trick Gavin AND is willing to go through all this trouble and risk to attempt it AND doesn't have a conscience is not that low.
But the chances that such a person just happened to have helped Satoshi Nakamoto create/test bitcoin, AND knows who Satoshi is (despite the fact that the whole world has been searching for Satoshi to no success)?
You're better off trying to win the lottery every single week for a year.
May 04, 2016, 06:31:24 PM
He is not satoshi.
https://twitter.com/ICOcountdown/status/727648910647431170
https://github.com/patio11/wrightverification/blob/master/README.md
https://twitter.com/ICOcountdown/status/727648910647431170
https://github.com/patio11/wrightverification/blob/master/README.md
That is a jumbled analysis which doesn't explain well the situation.
I already explained it more clearly:
Remember that Craig Wright had obtained funding for and was running a the largest Supercomputer in Australia. So what Craig has ostensibly done is he is used supercomputer resources to find the inverse of a hash function and then used one of Satoshi old transactions to pretend he has the private key:
The implication is that either Craig Wright has stumbled upon an infinitesimally rare occurrence of an SHA256 collision, or that he had used the signature from block 258 to reverse engineer a hash (the first shown in his blog demonstration) and hoped that nobody would notice. ycombinator user JoukeH noticed.
And with his access to a supercomputer, it is plausible he was able to reverse the hash in order to find a text that matched the signature that was already on the blockchain. Without that explanation, then he must have the private key! You seem to not understand the technology. 
Let me unpack that more for n00bs. The point is that every Bitcoin signature signs the hash (of a hash) of the transaction. And so if someone can create two transactions that have the same hash, then one can use the same signature for both, i.e. no need to have the private key to generate a new signature.
What Craig did was reuse an existing signature from the block chain which is attributed to Satoshi, and supplied it as the signature for a new transactions. Specifically the new transaction is some text written by Sartre but the key point is that normally it should impossible to find a new set of data which can generate the same hash, because of the preimage resistance security property of the SHA256 cryptographic hash function.
Re-read my post, you didn't seem to understand it. Craig has not said he is Satoshi. Find a quote where he said that. You won't. He has always said it was his colleague.
Listen to the first few minutes of the BBC interview
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-36191165
"You're going to show me that Satoshi is you?"
Craig - "yes"
Remember Craig is a lawyer. Remember how Bill Clinton explained in court what the meaning of 'is' is.
Craig has consistently claimed he was backing "the persona behind Satoshi" and was part of a group involved with Satoshi, so the above statement is consistent with that, without him actually being the man who developed the code of Bitcoin with his own fingers. The interviewer did not ask Craig "are you going to prove you are the man who wrote the code of Bitcoin?" which obviously can't be proved nor disproved by any signature since Satoshi did not sign the code of Bitcoin.
Is Satoshi after all of Blockstream?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hs2ca/can_all_core_developers_confirm_they_havent/
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I have had no communication with Mr Wright at all, let alone signed anything. I understand that there is some information sheet Wright is giving reporters that specifically attacks me, however!
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4hs2ca/can_all_core_developers_confirm_they_havent/
Hey dufus - why don't you look at the BBC article itself: http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-36168863
It says: "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto."
Where did they get the information from - they got it from Craig Wright - still going to say he hasn't identified himself as being Satoshi?
It says: "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright has publicly identified himself as Bitcoin creator Satoshi Nakamoto."
Where did they get the information from - they got it from Craig Wright - still going to say he hasn't identified himself as being Satoshi?
You are quoting what a reporter has said, not what Craig has said. I said find a quote where Craig has claimed his is the man who wrote the code for Bitcoin. You will never find that.
Butthurt idiot. Bye.
I see you locked your thread again. You are an emotional basketcase.
I am replying to every topic where my post is relevant. I am not the one who created so many duplicate topics.
It isn't relevant and it is just spamming (you could start your own topic of course).
And if he was saying that he just knew Satoshi and is not Satoshi then why does Gavin come out this "meeting" saying that he is Satoshi (surely he would have told Gavin it was his friend and not him).
You are just butthurt.
It is very relevant.
Craig has played Gavin. He knows Gavin needs support for his preferences for the block scaling debate.
Butthurt by what exactly?
(perhaps due to seeing your same post spammed in every topic?)
Don't pretend you've forgotten when you closed the technical thread where we were debating and told me in PM that you never wanted to talk to me again.
I don't have time for your melodrama. Bye.
It's increasingly obvious that despite not being able to present actual cryptographic proof Wright is putting a lot of effort into obfuscation and trying to sway the public opinion, whether it's for his business interests or something else.
You do not seem to understand the math. Either Craig broke SHA256 or he has Satoshi's private key.
Also by getting core Bitcoin devs and their tribe to claim that the proof Craig provided is not a proof, he has revealed them as being disingenuous. Very clever political game theory he has concocted.
Craig has astutely accomplished his goal, as only 42% of Bitcoiners conclude he can't be Satoshi. And when and if Craig signs coins from an early block of Bitcoin, the level of confusion will increase. Craig is playing a political game theory.
I think bringing in a dead person into this is just a scapegoat by Craig Wright to confuse spectators. If this is true, why would he pretend being Satoshi by signing a fake message? Until Craig comes up with this extraordinary proof he says, I refuse to believe anything that came from him.
Refusing to believe is not the same as proving he is not. Craig is winning the political game theory. He is a clever lawyer mofo.
Reading this, quite interesting:
http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692
http://gizmodo.com/this-australian-says-he-and-his-dead-friend-invented-bi-1746958692
One theory that is being floated on Reddit runs like this:
Kleiman is Satoshi, and had the keys to the ~1 million bitcoins. He dies, and his USB stick/computer/whatever went to a relative, who doesn't realize what he is holding. Wright knew Kleiman and knew he was Satoshi. So he invents this crazy story about being Satoshi, but that he can't spend the coins because they are all in a trust that was held by Kleiman.
So now Wright comes public claiming to be Satoshi - and sets himself up to launch a lawsuit against Kleiman's relative to get "his" bitcoins back. If Wright pulls this off, he gains the fabled treasure of 1 million bitcoins off Kleiman's estate.
Thoughts pro and con?
Kleiman is Satoshi, and had the keys to the ~1 million bitcoins. He dies, and his USB stick/computer/whatever went to a relative, who doesn't realize what he is holding. Wright knew Kleiman and knew he was Satoshi. So he invents this crazy story about being Satoshi, but that he can't spend the coins because they are all in a trust that was held by Kleiman.
So now Wright comes public claiming to be Satoshi - and sets himself up to launch a lawsuit against Kleiman's relative to get "his" bitcoins back. If Wright pulls this off, he gains the fabled treasure of 1 million bitcoins off Kleiman's estate.
Thoughts pro and con?
I just came up with another theory though...we might be missing the forest for the trees. Much of what CW has said has proven sketchy, or even downright lies (claiming multiple fake phd's for instance). We do know one thing that's incontrovertible: CW was very interested in high performance computing / supercomputing. Think about that for a minute.
Now what if Kleiman, being the typical computer geek, enjoyed the intellectual challenge of creating the code but had little interest in testing...and asked his friend CW to help test Bitcoin by mining. It's very possible that CW could own Block 1, and even if not, it's still possible that a significant part of Satoshi's stash...actually doesn't belong to Satoshi. What if most/all the coins we thought were Satoshi's were actually CW's?
It's also possible that Kleiman wrote the first version of the Bitcoin code, and that CW took over testing, bug fixing, and future development. Kleiman could have written the code, while CW could have been the "Satoshi" that communicated extensively with Gavin and others...
Now what if Kleiman, being the typical computer geek, enjoyed the intellectual challenge of creating the code but had little interest in testing...and asked his friend CW to help test Bitcoin by mining. It's very possible that CW could own Block 1, and even if not, it's still possible that a significant part of Satoshi's stash...actually doesn't belong to Satoshi. What if most/all the coins we thought were Satoshi's were actually CW's?
It's also possible that Kleiman wrote the first version of the Bitcoin code, and that CW took over testing, bug fixing, and future development. Kleiman could have written the code, while CW could have been the "Satoshi" that communicated extensively with Gavin and others...
I think that CSW stumbled upon Bitcoin circa 2013 (late 2012 at the earliest) and started concocting a narrative to fit his long con. Stumbling upon the death of David Kleiman, a person who CSW co-wrote with, Craig saw that the pieces of Dave's life fit nicely in what's known about Satoshi. It was just a matter of creating docs to make it look like he and Dave were partners of sorts which I've demonstrated he's done.
May 04, 2016, 02:05:57 PM
How many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
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Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
No, you are incorrect. See below:
Though you are correct that the coinbase in Block #0 is unspendable,
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
Satoshi could move all other coins within the genesis address.
The address is not what has been marked as unspendable.
Only the original 50 coins have been "voided" for transfer.
Forget him. Someone else has already said that... copy pasta...
May 04, 2016, 01:54:38 PM
Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
Almagro, why are copy-pasting other people's posts?
May 04, 2016, 01:51:48 PM
I posted elsewhere:
1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
I like number 4, lets give it a couple months to get everything figured out though 1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
I reckon you'll need about 3 months to be on the safe side
May 04, 2016, 01:51:08 PM
I posted elsewhere:
1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
I like number 4, lets give it a couple months to get everything figured out though 1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
I like #4 also....but let's do it now before somebody changes their mind. Afterall, the legendary members are who hold this whole thing together, right? SMILE
May 04, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
I posted elsewhere:
1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
1. Move genesis address coins. Or sign a message.
2. Move 100 of the first 300 blocks. Or sign 100 messages.
3. PGP sign using the key that everyone knows (appears here and in bitcoin.org)
4. Send all Legendary members of the forum a block's worth of coins. (50 BTC each.)
Satoshi's PGP key is stored on this forum, and also on bitcoin.org and someone has pasted it in a post before, and it's probably on pastebin or elsewhere.
We can all confirm that it's the same public key, we just can not confirm that it really is Satoshi's key. I'm not talking about the backdated fake one, I'm talking about the public key that was posted some time in 2011 or even earlier.
May 04, 2016, 01:16:49 PM
Anyone know of Satoshi's pgp(s)?
just here?
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto:
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Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32)
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EBjAnoZeyUihPrcAniVWl5M44RuGctJe+IMNX4eVkC08AJ9v7cXsp5uDdQNo8q3R
8RHwN4Gk8w==
=3FTe
-----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
just here?
http://motherboard.vice.com/read/satoshis-pgp-keys-are-probably-backdated-and-point-to-a-hoax
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Satoshi_Nakamoto:
-----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32)
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May 04, 2016, 01:15:14 PM
He should move coins from block #2 and call it a day 
https://blockchain.info/sl/block/000000006a625f06636b8bb6ac7b960a8d03705d1ace08b1a19da3fdcc99ddbd
https://blockchain.info/sl/block/000000006a625f06636b8bb6ac7b960a8d03705d1ace08b1a19da3fdcc99ddbd 
May 04, 2016, 01:11:54 PM
I look forward to his next blog post!
May 04, 2016, 01:09:30 PM
If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?
Logging in from the account doesn't mean anything.His password will be stored in the database,in case the database is leaked anybody can post from the account and claim they're Satoshi Nakamoto.From what I know,the account is already banned in the forum by theymos.
May 04, 2016, 01:05:04 PM
did he perform that genesis block trick?
nope.
he said he would move coins from an " early block " to me that implies it wont be from the genesis block but like block 50 or something a block from day 1.
at first i had not considered the idea that he would have gone to gr8 lengths to hack the "fresh" laptop he used to convince Gavin he held the PK to the genesis block. i thought whats his motive, why would he go to such lengths only to in the end not really be able to prove it.
I now see that he has motives for getting poeple believing he is Satoshi. mainly if he could have some experts believing he is satoshi, first by faking proof that he owns the genesis address, and then later proving to everyone else that he can move coins from early blocks, then he could have the his government believing that he actually does have the collateral and they would not want to take back there loan.
if he cannot convince everyone that he owns a huge amount of BTC, then hes fucked.
maybe he owns like 10,000BTC from a few weeks of mining back in the erly days.
he will move the earliest coins he has access to, and HOPE that this + Fooling Gavin with a hacked computer will convices everyone he has the all the SN coins.
May 04, 2016, 12:56:54 PM
If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?
Logging in from the account doesn't mean anything.His password will be stored in the database,in case the database is leaked anybody can post from the account and claim they're Satoshi Nakamoto.From what I know,the account is already banned in the forum by theymos.
May 04, 2016, 12:53:12 PM
If he log in in the bitcointalk account I can believe he is satoshi nakamoto.Because he is not online here on this forum?
May 04, 2016, 12:48:09 PM
Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
No, you are incorrect. See below:
Though you are correct that the coinbase in Block #0 is unspendable,
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
Satoshi could move all other coins within the genesis address.
The address is not what has been marked as unspendable.
Only the original 50 coins have been "voided" for transfer.
Forget him. Someone else has already said that... copy pasta...
May 04, 2016, 12:43:02 PM
Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
No, you are incorrect. See below:
Though you are correct that the coinbase in Block #0 is unspendable,
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
there are numerous txs that have added to those bitcoins within that address.
https://blockchain.info/address/1A1zP1eP5QGefi2DMPTfTL5SLmv7DivfNa
Many users have added/donated some bitcoins to that address for fun.
Currently those added bitcoins exceed the 50 unspendable by 16+ bitcoins.
Those 16+ can be moved by Satoshi, since those coins come from spendable parents.
Satoshi could move all other coins within the genesis address.
The address is not what has been marked as unspendable,
only the original 50 coins have been "voided" for transfer.
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May 04, 2016, 12:38:22 PM
did he perform that genesis block trick?
May 04, 2016, 12:36:38 PM
Well, how many "experts" here saying that they would believe only if coins are moved from the genesis block. You should know, since the level of expertise you have, that those coins, by default, cannot be moved. Try another one..
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