Topic: Craig Wright to move coins from an early (associated with the genesis?!) block? - page 2. (Read 5035 times)
May 04, 2016, 12:34:13 PM
Thank you Craig! Any news is good news.
May 04, 2016, 12:28:48 PM
You need to remember that Craig Wright has never claimed he is Satoshi Nakamoto
In the video halfway down this page (captioned "Australian entrepreneur Craig Wright says he is Mr Bitcoin"), at timecount 0:18 the conversation goes like this:
Reporter: "So you're going to show me that Satoshi Nakamoto is you"
Craig Wright: "Yes"
I'd say that sounded pretty much like he's claiming he's Satoshi Nakamoto, wouldn't you ?
Bitcoin WAS created by a group of people....US!....In fact, it's still being created by us! But, that initial white paper signed "Satoshi Nakamoto," the email accounts associated with "Satoshi Nakamoto," the bitcointalk account which assigns him "founder," those are accounts associated to an individual, "Satoshi Nakamoto," even though, Hal Finney, Gavin Andresen...et. al. had all worked on the project together....there is still only one Satoshi Nakamoto who orchestrated the whole project.
May 04, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.
That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...
I hope so. I prefer to never know who's Satoshi than recognising that this clown is him. That would prove that he gots access to that account, that he of course could not have bought, though.
Yes Spartak_t is correct. My understanding is that the Satoshi account is locked and Theymos
said something to the effect of, that he would unlock and release it back to Satoshi if he was able
to prove to Theymos that he was who he claimed to be.
Theymos said this statement in regards to a simple question in the past, not recently.
I'll see if I can find this posting from Theymos.
Edit: So far can't seem to find what I recalled. Most info comes from mods as below:
In probably that he would have to sign a known Satoshi address before the account was 'unlocked'.
It must have been manually removed from the list by theymos. I know satoshi's account was locked a
while ago but not sure why it needs to be removed from the memberlist (unless it needed to be to lock it adequately).
while ago but not sure why it needs to be removed from the memberlist (unless it needed to be to lock it adequately).
May 04, 2016, 12:14:19 PM
I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.
That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...
I hope so. I prefer to never know who's Satoshi than recognising that this clown is him. That would prove that he gots access to that account, that he of course could not have bought, though.
May 04, 2016, 12:13:08 PM
If not the genesis block, then the only other one that cuts the mustard is block number nine from the first transaction he made with Hal Finney.
May 04, 2016, 12:10:53 PM
If he can actually move coins from the genesis block then I will openly admit he is Satoshi and just be disappointed that my mind have fantasized a better man than what Craig is appearing to be, but like most people here I very much doubt that will be the case.
That is not the case,critics say Satoshi Nakamoto was never one person and maybe multiple people had access to the genesis block.Even Criag was unable to sign the messages which were suppose to be from one of the Satoshi's old addresses .Hence I believe this entire thing is a set up.
May 04, 2016, 12:10:16 PM
I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.
That proves nothing and I believe that theymos has blocked the account...
May 04, 2016, 12:08:15 PM
I'm waiting him to post a message with Satoshi's account here. That's a si ne qua non things for me to believe that he's Satoshi.
May 04, 2016, 12:06:18 PM
It is really nice to know the creator of Bitcoin.I am also chasing all the information from here and there just to see if Dr.CW's claim is right or is just bluff.I am confused but let's see how the things fold in coming days.It seems legit way to prove if he can move a block from earlier.
May 04, 2016, 11:59:19 AM
Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth 
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
Allright, since this mummer's show doesn't seem to increase the value of Bitcoin, we'll have to wait at least more 4 years for the truth?
the tulip trust is empty..
it holds no private keys.. this was already found out before christmas.
the thing abuoot the trust is that craig gave a numpty friend PUBLIC KEYS and told his friend they were his.. the friend then formed a trust using this naive knowledge and valued the trust at the FALSE valuation of the public keys.(without checking the validity of having private keys..)
(remember guys anyone can copy and paste these public keys)
craig then went to the australian government and got $54million by using the trust as collateral.
at first the australian government beleived the trust had value.. so gave him that $54mill... but...
the only issue is that the australian government then looked into it and seen that the trust has no real value as there are no private keys involved and so they want their $54mill back..
this then led to the drama before christmas, and craig had to run off to the UK to avoid arrest.
now he is trying his damned hardest at failing to prove that the tulip trust holds real funds because every attempt he makes has no legitimacy and has so many holes in it, be might as well be handing out swiss cheese.
May 04, 2016, 10:58:42 AM
And this is another piece on the subject, IMHO very well written.
http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/04/logical-fallacies-hunt-satoshi/
http://hackingdistributed.com/2016/05/04/logical-fallacies-hunt-satoshi/
May 04, 2016, 10:43:51 AM
Another interesting reading:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/
It is quite funny that every piece of evidence points that Craig Wright is not Satoshi even more. With every article I read I believe less and less in Craig=Satoshi.https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/
For know I would rather this this is elaborate ruse, to get away with money, don't pay taxes and be a tool in Gavin's hands.
May 04, 2016, 10:41:32 AM
If the trust document is original (and it has not been changed), it would mean that CW, after the death of David in April 2013, has received back "shares in the tulip trust and company" in July 2015. If that is true, assets attached to the trust can be used and disposed by CW or the clause that says that CW will receive the bitcoins in 2020 is still valid?
Anyone more knowledgeable than me on trusts?
Anyone more knowledgeable than me on trusts?
May 04, 2016, 10:33:56 AM
Another interesting reading:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/4htw3t/how_to_steal_54_millions_of_dollar_from_the/
May 04, 2016, 10:23:25 AM
Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
Allright, since this mummer's show doesn't seem to increase the value of Bitcoin, we'll have to wait at least more 4 years for the truth?
May 04, 2016, 10:20:50 AM
Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
is that real? where did you find that?
May 04, 2016, 10:17:57 AM
Interesting reading, but can this be accepted as part of the truth
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/2644014-Tulip-Trust-Redacted.html
May 04, 2016, 10:12:21 AM
i dont think he will prove it.. all he will do is make a phishing site that looks like blockchain.info and try to convince people the transaction on that site is real and all other blockchains and sites which dont display it are wrong or tweaked to hide the transaction in some conspiracy theory to attempt to pretend he is not satoshi.. instead ofcourse the truth... that craig isnt satoshi
that would be funny. May 04, 2016, 10:10:51 AM
He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.
the satoshi pseudonym is of one person... ONE
but satoshi and other people like Hal finney and a host of other people (all with their own pseudonyms) helped program bitcoin.
even now today there are hundreds of people programming aspects of bitcoin.
but with all that said.
craig wright is not satoshi, nor any other prominent coder of the early days
we can define satoshi as the guy that had the idea of POW
this is going to literally be impossible to prove by any means.
so we will never be 100% sure who had the original idea.
the best we can hope for is finding a person with access to the keys which can move coins from early blocks ( preferably the first block )
that would prove they at least played a role in the very beginnings of bitcoin, but still cannot prove that they had the POW idea that makes
all this blockchain thing GO.
May 04, 2016, 09:58:49 AM
He kind of contradicted himself though, he said that he was part of a group of people who were the creators of Bitcoin. Implying that 'Satoshi Nakamoto' is more than one person.
the satoshi pseudonym is of one person... ONE
but satoshi and other people like Hal finney and a host of other people (all with their own pseudonyms) helped program bitcoin.
even now today there are hundreds of people programming aspects of bitcoin.
but with all that said.
craig wright is not satoshi, nor any other prominent coder of the early days
Idk, but if Craig Wright proves he is Satoshi, and Hollywood decide to make a movie with Charlie Sheen starring in it, then I believe we FAILers deserve some tip for spreading the idea.
i dont think he will prove it.. all he will do is make a phishing site that looks like blockchain.info and try to convince people the transaction on that site is real and all other blockchains and sites which dont display it are wrong or tweaked to hide the transaction in some conspiracy theory to attempt to pretend he is not satoshi.. instead ofcourse the truth... that craig isnt satoshi
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