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newbie
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July 05, 2011, 12:58:00 PM

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You should keep in mind that miners are not the only guys selling bitcoins, but maybe some speculators/early adopters with lots of coins decide to sell their coins as well. And remember there are miners with access to "free" (paid by others) electricity. That could easily push the bitcoin exchange rate below electricity costs.
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very good point.
full member
Activity: 224
Merit: 100
July 05, 2011, 12:53:27 PM
I believe bitcoins will ladder all the way down to about $4 or roughly the amount electricity used to create 1BTC.
I think this will take only a few days now no more 5
which imo is not a bad thing.
Typical monterey price correction. bitcoin charts tells you all you need to know.
Not many miners will let there coins go for less than it cost them to create.
If they do then why bother at all ?
The price was driven on pure speculation.


The price of bitcoins:

[ ] Have gone up significantly
[X ] Have gone down significantly
[ ] Have not fluctuated significantly

And I believe the price:

[X ] will continue this behavior
[ ] will not continue this behavior

And therefore one should:

[ ] BUY BUY BUY BUY!!!
[X] SELL SELL SELL!!!
[ ] HOLD HOLD HOLD!!!
[ ] DO THE HOOOOKEY POKEY!!!

I base this opinion on:

[X ] mathemagic
[ ] statistics
[X] correlations between price and a thing which may or may not be causally related to price
[ ] graphs
[X] extrapolations
[X ] current events
[ ] historical events
[X] my incredible insight
[ ] the fact that a pattern like this has occurred before and therefore will occur again
[ ] insider knowledge that a large trade is about to take place
[ ] the fact that I have seen and predicted things correctly before
[ ] Oracle at Delphi
[ ] Magic 8 Ball
member
Activity: 98
Merit: 10
July 05, 2011, 12:52:56 PM
Not many miners will let there coins go for less than it cost them to create.
If they do then why bother at all ?

You should keep in mind that miners are not the only guys selling bitcoins, but maybe some speculators/early adopters with lots of coins decide to sell their coins as well. And remember there are miners with access to "free" (paid by others) electricity. That could easily push the bitcoin exchange rate below electricity costs.
newbie
Activity: 45
Merit: 0
July 05, 2011, 12:47:34 PM
I believe bitcoins will ladder all the way down to about $4 or roughly the amount electricity used to create 1BTC.
I think this will take only a few days now no more 5
which imo is not a bad thing.
Typical monterey price correction. bitcoin charts tells you all you need to know.
Not many miners will let there coins go for less than it cost them to create.
If they do then why bother at all ?
The price was driven on pure speculation.
legendary
Activity: 1284
Merit: 1001
July 05, 2011, 12:18:50 PM
It's scary to watch the market fall, I have many reasons to believe it will rebound.. but not until fees are reinstated.

People are buying and selling on two markets without any penalty. Even if they profit a penny.
It's not exactly the first time it falls, and the recent fall isn't particularly large. In fact I'd say the rate has been unusually stable and the float unusually low after the fee reduction. I think lower fees is just what Bitcoin needs to become more merchant friendly. The fact that people buy on one exchange and sell on another does not push the price either way, it just makes the price difference between them smaller.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
July 05, 2011, 12:11:00 PM
It's scary to watch the market fall, I have many reasons to believe it will rebound.. but not until fees are reinstated.

People are buying and selling on two markets without any penalty. Even if they profit a penny.
That's arbitrage. In theory, it makes markets more efficient, by reducing the spreads between markets.

Arbitrage in Bitcoin markets is limited by the exchanges' "slow pay" policies. You can't keep moving the same money back and forth between markets, because it takes days to get the cash out of an exchange.
member
Activity: 95
Merit: 10
July 05, 2011, 12:06:20 PM
People are buying and selling on two markets without any penalty. Even if they profit a penny.

 This is one of the biggest problems, a very bad move - imo
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
July 05, 2011, 12:01:17 PM
It's scary to watch the market fall, I have many reasons to believe it will rebound.. but not until fees are reinstated.

People are buying and selling on two markets without any penalty. Even if they profit a penny.
legendary
Activity: 2198
Merit: 1311
July 05, 2011, 11:58:04 AM
mtgox is reporting a lot of hacking attempts.
Have you noticed that Mt. Gox tends to report problems when the price is going down (and they have to pay out real money), but not when the price is going up?

No.  How long have you been watching the market?  I've been closely watching since early April and I recall several times over the past months that MtGox reported problems (e.g. DDoS, switching servers, etc) that occurred while the price was climbing as fast as it's falling right now.
legendary
Activity: 1204
Merit: 1002
July 05, 2011, 11:54:36 AM
mtgox is reporting a lot of hacking attempts.
Have you noticed that Mt. Gox tends to report problems when the price is going down (and they have to pay out real money), but not when the price is going up?
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
July 05, 2011, 11:47:17 AM
mtgox is reporting a lot of hacking attempts. do you think they were successful? I don't see anyone complaining about missing money or btc
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
July 05, 2011, 10:40:16 AM
I think the bubble already burst and we have been riding the shock waves of bitcoin for a while. It won't die completely but bitcoin was seriously over-valued.

I had the same thought, that this was an inevitable decline. Over-hyped like a crazy dot.com ipo.

Still there is something there in this unique crypto-currency, a base-line value that will find its real worth in the trading exchange.

And so the question remains..., when to buy in !!!!     Smiley

full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
July 05, 2011, 09:51:04 AM
It looks like trades were actually made at 13.75.  Looks like there is some excitement to buy from some eager beaver.   Roll Eyes
member
Activity: 84
Merit: 10
July 05, 2011, 09:48:11 AM
Ach, sweet caress of many lulz.
legendary
Activity: 1218
Merit: 1000
July 05, 2011, 09:46:41 AM
Holy! The floats are insane!

3 refreshs 30 seconds interval: 12.6, 13.65, 13.07  Shocked
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
July 05, 2011, 09:39:20 AM
Looks like another decent volume dip, right after the 13.0 bids were retracted.

watching this shit is like crack.
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
July 04, 2011, 01:19:18 PM
...and the rebound has begun.

Any moment now... ?
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
July 04, 2011, 01:16:40 PM
Yesterday we are sideways all day at $15.50; are we looking at a $14.50 sideways day today?

SJ
full member
Activity: 140
Merit: 100
July 04, 2011, 12:23:38 PM
how low will it go?

It bottomed @ 14.2. It's rebounding now, however.

A little rally at least.  There is just too many coins on the market between 15 and 16 for it to gain any real traction.

These are not rally's just oscillating attempted corrections after the crash.  Another thing is that only 10k or so coins have been traded in the last couple of hours.  Nobody is unloading a shitload of anything.  

10k in a couple hours * 12 = 120k per day, which is $1.8 million.

No.  It means volume spiked a little due to the recent 'crash', the volume over the last 40 minutes is under 500.  Also it means 10k swapped accounts, not that a huge influx of cash came into the market.  Some buy, sell, buyback, etc.  

sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
July 04, 2011, 11:59:32 AM
I am looking at the next level of support, $13.60, to see if it will be broken today. The next one after that is $10.30.

If volume indicators deem it so, these are my buy-in points.
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