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Quote from: romero121 on May 07, 2022, 05:40:51 PM

This is just a suggestion, but I'm not sure whether this will bring profit to the casino. Most of the crash games function automatically where users were able to set the cashout or can get cashout when required. For this the players can be allowed to play a game like the one we had in the keypad phones. Snake game, which keeps running and the player needs to keep on collecting food and this make the snake grow in length. If we dash on the sides then it ends. Maybe that'll be more attractive as the control is in the hands of users.

Hey,man thanks for your time!
I think you want to say pvp game right?
Crash could to be a pvp game!
Just like poker sit and go. For example: you and me , play a competition, 100usd buyin, 10mins, 1000 chips in the crash game!
Who’s win the more chips , who is the winner ! Take 200usd rewards away !

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Quote from: romero121 on May 07, 2022, 05:40:51 PM

This is just a suggestion, but I'm not sure whether this will bring profit to the casino.

The OP's suggestion won't bring any profit to the casino. Just do the calculation on the method OP wanted to implement. It is purely on the players advantage.

Quote from: romero121 on May 07, 2022, 05:40:51 PM

Snake game, which keeps running and the player needs to keep on collecting food and this make the snake grow in length. If we dash on the sides then it ends. Maybe that'll be more attractive as the control is in the hands of users.

This will be better if implemented in Multiplayer mode. Competing on who will be eaten and get the funds of the opposing player while Casino earn x% from the winnings. This sounds more viable I guess.

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Why you are choosing the hard part of the game.Which is act like a owner of the casino.The easiest part of the gambling or casino is player.The player will easily win or loss in the game.But the casino owner need to pay the feees to the developers.The owner had to pay the person who working and marketing.

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Their was a basic rule of gambling is you will charge money as fee from the winner.The won’t pay the fee.Secondly you can conduct many tournaments in the casino.So for every tournament only few will be win.All the registration fee will come to owner pocket.For example,the tournament had 250 slots.The tournament will begin after the reach of that certain number.

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This is just a suggestion, but I'm not sure whether this will bring profit to the casino. Most of the crash games function automatically where users were able to set the cashout or can get cashout when required. For this the players can be allowed to play a game like the one we had in the keypad phones. Snake game, which keeps running and the player needs to keep on collecting food and this make the snake grow in length. If we dash on the sides then it ends. Maybe that'll be more attractive as the control is in the hands of users.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 06, 2022, 01:16:32 AM

1:We all know it’s house edge :1%
2:This game you access any gambling website , its always auto run there .

How to change it ? Or could we change it different?

1: we make the house edge 0% or just 0.1%?
Could we change the house edge or not? In my experience i think its gone be ok!

2:How to make money as the casino owner?
First , you can control the game time！
you could choose to open a new game anytime，and control the game time like 30mins or 1hour， why do that？ you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your game room ，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but just in 30mins or 1hour，i don’t know i will win or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

3: if as a player , you think its not fair about the hash , you could choose to different seeds game room

I just want know the calculation of these new ways ，good or not？

thanks everyone‘s answers！

I'm not sure what difference that would make for the player?

At the end of the day, the player is going to get close to the same EV by your invention compared to if they just had a flat house edge, and of course the house isn't going to be willing to give away free money by having less house edge.

So it's not really an 'innovation' by any means. Could be fun but not really advantageous to either party.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on May 07, 2022, 03:33:02 AM

Now explain the ZERO percentage house edge to me please.... because with a ZERO percent house edge, you will effectively get all your money back and you as the host of the game will get zero percent profit to pay for your overheads to run the site?

How will you generate an income to host the site? Will the site be plastered with advertisements to get an income to run the site... or are you going to work on donations or tips?

I haven't seen a gambling site that has ads on them, I think the logic is simple. Doing that can annoy the players and makes them leave the site for good. Putting that donation address on the bottom of the page will also not guarantee that someone will donate on it because they gamble at the first place to earn a profit and they will not likely give it away but idk maybe there are still some that has a good heart and will donate something after they won huge.

It's like a sign of thank you for making a zero house edge site/game possible and other than that, it could mean that they like their stay on that site, e.g the ambiance and the overall service/feature was good.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on May 07, 2022, 03:25:23 PM

Is it really 1 percent edge? but I think house edge can also differ on each gambling sites. This is the reason why we can see sites that promotes lower edge like 0.1 percent than the other which has above 1 percent but if you are lucky you can still win no matter how high is the house edge and if you are unlucky you can also lose no matter how low the house edge is.

Why will you change it anyway? You don't own the site but you can try to post your suggestions as long as it's only realistic and hope that casino owner will follow it one day. A zero house edge seems good to be true already however I think some sites have attempted it on the past and obviously they didn't last long.

I agree with you, to win in Crash Creqeu, the advantage of the house and the RTP must be at all, I think it will not succeed, it is better than when you are going to play crash OP only you have to use it to have it is fun, Forget about profits because that can hinder many things, and you can lose money, just assign an amount of money that is willing to lose and if you lose it, stay with the fun and adrenaline you felt in that. weather.

I really don't think there is something to change the house's advantage to the player, and that is something that should always be known.

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Quote from: Webetcoins on May 07, 2022, 03:25:23 PM

Is it really 1 percent edge? but I think house edge can also differ on each gambling sites. This is the reason why we can see sites that promotes lower edge like 0.1 percent than the other which has above 1 percent but if you are lucky you can still win no matter how high is the house edge and if you are unlucky you can also lose no matter how low the house edge is.

^ It belongs to these games, Blackjack, Baccarat, Roulette, Video Poker and Online slots which are known that has a very low percentage of the house edge. The casino that has a higher deduction rate of RTP is most likely the favorite casino of all gamblers because they know it has a higher player’s winning rate. The 1% is really too small a percentage and it is most likely it always has a win-win situation if you are a casino owner here because they are always that big casino advantage.

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Is it really 1 percent edge? but I think house edge can also differ on each gambling sites. This is the reason why we can see sites that promotes lower edge like 0.1 percent than the other which has above 1 percent but if you are lucky you can still win no matter how high is the house edge and if you are unlucky you can also lose no matter how low the house edge is.

Why will you change it anyway? You don't own the site but you can try to post your suggestions as long as it's only realistic and hope that casino owner will follow it one day. A zero house edge seems good to be true already however I think some sites have attempted it on the past and obviously they didn't last long.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 07, 2022, 11:19:41 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on May 07, 2022, 03:33:02 AM

Now explain the ZERO percentage house edge to me please.... because with a ZERO percent house edge, you will effectively get all your money back and you as the host of the game will get zero percent profit to pay for your overheads to run the site?

How will you generate an income to host the site? Will the site be plastered with advertisements to get an income to run the site... or are you going to work on donations or tips?

I think OP does not understand exactly how the house edge work and why the house edge is necessary for the casino. Also if you noticed, OP told that in case of win casino can take some 1 -5% of our winnings. Strange Wink

OP needs to realize that whenever we win, the casino has to pay the money out of their pocket and whenever we lose, of course, our money goes to the casino. Overall the casino are always in profit, otherwise, no one would want to run a business with loss. It is the players whose winning depends upon luck.

And I think the OP wants to have an easy money in casino where his bets will always in favor on his side lol. Maybe he should learn what CRASH GAME, HOUSE EDGE, or even the basic terminologies first and how does it contributes nor affects the gambling BEFORE even suggesting IDEAS -- which are just likely to be plain non-sense. But no, RTPs are the one that contradicts HOUSE EDGE. High RTPs means higher chance that a player can have his money back. Hence not always a profit. A user can still be lucky regardless of how very RNG the games are.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 07, 2022, 10:54:04 AM

Thanks for your answer , i think your advice is very good idea, maybe we could make a vip system ,you pay xxxusd / month , enjoy the 0 edge games and 0 % profits fee,even withdraw , its all free ,just let you often access
This gambling website , I believe ,the casino owner will show you something that you like to pay for them!

Without a positive house edge of 0,5%, 1% or 2% it will be impossible for the casino to grow their bankroll along the time and make the platform sustainable in order to pay big wins or general profit made by gamblers and also to make some profit for the managers. Without house edge the casino literally "crashes", just like the game you mentioned, and every players on the platform lose their entire funds.

But if you aren't convinced about this reality yet, you can always test on practice by yourself. You might want to launch your own virtual casino, set your own rules and watch for how long it's going to work...

Moreover, the reason why casinos don't decrease the house edge to 0,5% or even less in most cases, it's because they don't feel it's necessary. The number of active gamblers in a daily basis is good, the revenue generated is decent and the feedbacks are great, so why would they decrease their profit like that?

For new casinos it's another story, because they need attractive features to grow their customer base, so it's a possible idea to introduce lower house edge percentages (although they must be always positive). Anyway, be careful: "there's always free cheese in a mousetrap".

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 07, 2022, 11:19:41 AM

Quote from: Kakmakr on May 07, 2022, 03:33:02 AM

Now explain the ZERO percentage house edge to me please.... because with a ZERO percent house edge, you will effectively get all your money back and you as the host of the game will get zero percent profit to pay for your overheads to run the site?

How will you generate an income to host the site? Will the site be plastered with advertisements to get an income to run the site... or are you going to work on donations or tips?

I think OP does not understand exactly how the house edge work and why the house edge is necessary for the casino. Also if you noticed, OP told that in case of win casino can take some 1 -5% of our winnings. Strange Wink

OP needs to realize that whenever we win, the casino has to pay the money out of their pocket and whenever we lose, of course, our money goes to the casino. Overall the casino are always in profit, otherwise, no one would want to run a business with loss. It is the players whose winning depends upon luck.

one thing i can say here, the OP should not explore the gambling business. clearly, he doesn't know how casino works. so if he will just set-up a fly-by-night crash site, better not proceed. he will just screw people and waste somebody else's time. there's a reason why there's HE. and if you try to promote your site with 0 HE, people will think that you are not here for serious business. maybe just for quick gain because you will attract naive players.

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Quote from: noormcs5 on May 07, 2022, 11:19:41 AM

I think OP does not understand exactly how the house edge work and why the house edge is necessary for the casino. Also if you noticed, OP told that in case of win casino can take some 1 -5% of our winnings. Strange Wink

It could be the very first casino/gambling that has system like this if he will not call this the house edge. But 5%? That's too high if most of the games has the same house edge or whatever call that. Which I don't think anyone will try or will be a long term user for such setup if it will not be changed.

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Quote from: Kakmakr on May 07, 2022, 03:33:02 AM

Now explain the ZERO percentage house edge to me please.... because with a ZERO percent house edge, you will effectively get all your money back and you as the host of the game will get zero percent profit to pay for your overheads to run the site?

How will you generate an income to host the site? Will the site be plastered with advertisements to get an income to run the site... or are you going to work on donations or tips?

I think OP does not understand exactly how the house edge work and why the house edge is necessary for the casino. Also if you noticed, OP told that in case of win casino can take some 1 -5% of our winnings. Strange Wink

OP needs to realize that whenever we win, the casino has to pay the money out of their pocket and whenever we lose, of course, our money goes to the casino. Overall the casino are always in profit, otherwise, no one would want to run a business with loss. It is the players whose winning depends upon luck.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 06, 2022, 01:16:32 AM

you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your game room ，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but just in 30mins or 1hour，i don’t know i will win or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

Fees are one of the way these casino makes profits, so taking around 1 to 5% charge rate for each win is not a bad idea, but what if i would have suggest why not say 1 to 5% per withdrawal and not win? Is good, because the reason for starting a cosino business is to make profit

And, playing good games with good olds attract more people to a casino than any other thing else

Thanks for your answer , i think your advice is very good idea, maybe we could make a vip system ,you pay xxxusd / month , enjoy the 0 edge games and 0 % profits fee,even withdraw , its all free ,just let you often access
This gambling website , I believe ,the casino owner will show you something that you like to pay for them!

So (for example) you are willing to pay 100$ per month to the casino site and you want them to implement the 0% house edge, 0% fee, and Zero withdrawal fee so that at the end of the month you can make 1000$ a month ( Your profit will be 900$ in this example Wink

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I will further advise you that there are some casinos that claim to offer 0% house edge. Do not fall for their scam as they publish such false statements to get customers only.

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Quote from: seagullx on May 06, 2022, 01:16:32 AM

you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your game room ，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but just in 30mins or 1hour，i don’t know i will win or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

Fees are one of the way these casino makes profits, so taking around 1 to 5% charge rate for each win is not a bad idea, but what if i would have suggest why not say 1 to 5% per withdrawal and not win? Is good, because the reason for starting a cosino business is to make profit

And, playing good games with good olds attract more people to a casino than any other thing else

Thanks for your answer , i think your advice is very good idea, maybe we could make a vip system ,you pay xxxusd / month , enjoy the 0 edge games and 0 % profits fee,even withdraw , its all free ,just let you often access
This gambling website , I believe ,the casino owner will show you something that you like to pay for them!

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Quote from: CryptoHeadlineNews on May 07, 2022, 09:24:07 AM

Quote from: seagullx on May 06, 2022, 01:16:32 AM

the game is 0 edge to me but just in 30mins or 1hour，i

Fees are one of the way these casino makes profits, so taking around 1 to 5% charge rate for each win is not a bad idea, but what if i would have suggest why not say 1 to 5% per withdrawal and not win?

If they will choose to switch to 1 to 5 % fee for each withdrawal, then the casino profit will be less. In my perspective honestly saying, having a 1-5% fee per win is just very similar to having a 1-5% house edge. I see it that has no difference at all. In fact, I think it is much better than having 1-5% house edge.

To OP, I think it is better to have it running for almost all times. If you have pause every time, you'll get less customers.

I think it is worth trying though

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Quote from: seagullx on May 06, 2022, 01:16:32 AM

you could take the winner profits 1～5% as fee
its like， i join your game room ，play the crash，the game is 0 edge to me but just in 30mins or 1hour，i don’t know i will win or not , if i win , maybe 100 usd, i will pay u 1~5 usd as fee , i think its ok , If i lose 100usd,i think the game is fair to me , i just lose to the 0 edge game, that ok right?

Fees are one of the way these casino makes profits, so taking around 1 to 5% charge rate for each win is not a bad idea, but what if i would have suggest why not say 1 to 5% per withdrawal and not win? Is good, because the reason for starting a cosino business is to make profit

And, playing good games with good olds attract more people to a casino than any other thing else

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Quote from: lionheart78 on May 06, 2022, 03:33:33 PM

Quote from: FatFork on May 06, 2022, 01:51:35 PM

You don't seem to understand what "house edge" actually means. Suppose the house edge is really zero, and you play a game with an equal chance of winning or losing, such as tossing a coin. That would mean that every player would have a 50% chance of winning. Hence, half the players would lose in the long run, and half would win. In that case, where would the casino make their profits?

I think OP knows what house edge is but he wanted to get the most by pointing out ideas and making us support them. Actually it is beneficial from a player's point but at the same time devastating to the casino owner. If I were a Casino owner, I will trash the idea and just proceeds with what is the norm in the crash game industry. In neutrality, it is very interesting if the Casino really implements the OP's suggestion.

I'm sure that Casino owners won't support any idea that won't make their business earn. There should be a balance earning for both owners and players. Op's idea would be good for players who love crash games but would make the developers suffer. It's quite unrealistic at some point.

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