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Quote from: dothebeats on May 28, 2023, 08:42:36 PM

If this was way back a few years ago, there’d be a market for this Grin

While it is not completely a sports thing but rather a management-related one, fans can still enjoy betting on who leaves next based on the team’s performance so in a way, it is somehow predictable. It may not be as sure as player transfers and whatnot but the grounds on which manager goes next is still there and gamblers just need to make sure that they hit the right predictions.

But yeah, the market for this will be very low though it’s a good idea still.

But has this only happened on 2022-2023? I think in each year, there will always be a bad manager because there are others/lots of leagues out there and I don't think not all of them are performing well. There's also other sports which can experience the same in terms of management but unfortunately, there are no markets yet being offered on them.

Now that the OP opened this up and if there are people who are interested on the same thing, maybe we can recommend it on some betting site? Or if there are betting sites who will read this thread, they might be the one who will add it but they must do an announcement about this new feature. I know a betting site who offers markets for any types of events including on the uncommon/unrealistic ones. It's called Futuur. Maybe we can also ping them about this.

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Quote from: acroman08 on May 28, 2023, 06:07:37 PM

wouldn't this be prone to cheating? I mean, people in each club that has information on whether the manager of the club will get fired or not can team up to relay information to each other and bet on the manager that is guaranteed that will get fired. I know what I said sounds absurd but knowing how fixed match happens, I do not doubt that this can happen too especially if there is profit.

Like you said this kind of act has been going on ever since but I think they will be some kind regulation to this kind of betting, like it may be added as an outright option so no much fixing can take place and every bet on a supposed manager to be sacked will eventually be settled at the end of the football season.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

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The coaches who have a history of doing well would be the coaches that have the highest odds. That's where the money would be.

Most sportsbooks futures bets for certain sports. You can bet on the number of wins a team will have in a season. It's not the same as betting on what coach will get fired, but if a team is shitty with a new coach, you might make some money betting on the under in games they will win.

I see your point. But to be honest, I wouldn't say I like long-term bets, so there is that question about the popularity of these kinds of bets. Are they popular, and how popular are they?

I think what would make a long term bet more popular for a particular user is their knowledge on the particular sport that they might make a futures bet in and the possible payoff.

For example, you are super knowledgeable on a particular coach that a team just picked up. That team had a shit season last year, but a good draft in the offseason and picked up this spectacular coach. You might bet the over on them and feel like it's guaranteed money a few months later.

Or you might bet that they win the championship for even better odds. Bet $5 to win $5000 or something crazy like that.

I've only seen futures bets in NBA and NFL, but I'm sure you could find them for other sport if you check your usual sportsbook.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

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The coaches who have a history of doing well would be the coaches that have the highest odds. That's where the money would be.

Most sportsbooks futures bets for certain sports. You can bet on the number of wins a team will have in a season. It's not the same as betting on what coach will get fired, but if a team is shitty with a new coach, you might make some money betting on the under in games they will win.

I see your point. But to be honest, I wouldn't say I like long-term bets, so there is that question about the popularity of these kinds of bets. Are they popular, and how popular are they?

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This is very cool idea. In my country, Turkish football league, managers are casually sacked so people would really love to guess which managers will be sacked. I think there are some teams that are expected to be unsuccessful in leagues like always. Some club fans always tend to blame board and managers altogether. But most of the time scapegoat will just be manager. There could be betting to guess which team will be first kick their manager out.

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It’s a nice idea, they could be a bookie who has that option already, you may not know because you don’t use them

There are over 5000 bookies worldwide

It’ll be a nice thing to see such option in 1XBet and other popular bookies but who has such patience to wait for that long to see if your bet enters or not?

Assuming the coach is eventually sacked after 6months of your bet, you’ll stay for 6 whole months to know the outcome of your bet?

That’s awkward and crazy😳

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Quote from: maydna on May 29, 2023, 08:27:51 AM

It would be an interesting bet and I wonder how the managers of each club would feel if they saw their names on the sports betting register. It definitely won't be comfortable seeing their names there and maybe it will make them exert their energy and mind so they can still be managers at their club.

If there is a suggestion for these managers to be put into betting in crypto casinos, the casinos may try it into the new link in their casino. But it doesn't look like the casinos will put it on their betting list yet.

I bet they won't be as happy as us betting for them to be fired. Cheesy

Nah, it will not happen.
First, there's really not much profit in this, and fewer people know who these managers are or other high-ranking men in the sports industry. In NBA, I only knew GMs who are doing such controversial changes in the roster and even pulling some strings to take their pet player. Daryl Morey for example, is the president of the 76ers basketball operations. Wherever he goes James Harden will be there and I do believe he finds Harden like his money-making machine which is why he kept on pulling him at the team he works for.

Back to the discussion, sports betting sites will have to study this first before they can input it in the list of available bets, if they find it less inviting to gamblers then they will just erase it when there's a chance and I doubt there will be many gamblers who will see this a profitable bet considering it could take years before they step down or be fired.

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100 to 1 odds for playing for one of the worlds greatest teams doesnt seem that amazing, or perhaps that nine year old was one of the best players in his entire region. I like a long shot bet but I want 1000 to 1 if its a multi bet on long shot odds way into the future. It was a smart move by the dad because he needed that money back for all the money spent training his kid up along the way.
I have heard of people being able to sell out and cash out a bet that has vastly improved in odds along the way, reduce the risk of the pay out is why they sometimes offer this possibility. Most often seen for the very simple bets not anything complicated.

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Even though it sounds very creative, the sports betting idea that you mentioned is very difficult to implement because some coaches are kept ^{(usually for financial reasons of the club)} in the club even though the team he coached had a poor performance during a certain season running. but there are also several teams that fire their coaches when the pressure from the fans is strong ^{(usually due to poor team performance or other cases)} because the wishes of the fans is what the club's management really cares about. if betting ideas like this appear, then the end result is really like playing slots ^{(only based on luck)}

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Quote from: swogerino on May 28, 2023, 03:52:44 PM

I am sure that most bettors would love this type of bet.They are totally unpredictable though as they are different than most sport bets.In most sport bets we saw some games of certain teams and then we have a clear idea of this team form and we keep this in mind when we place our bets.In the sacking of coaches though it is totally unpredictable because no one of the bettors have the slightest idea of what the management of a team who is ready to sack a coach and the odds of such bets should be extremely high as even the bookies know no sh*t of what is going on in the mind of a management or board of directors of a team.

Indeed as ridiculous as this OP idea sounds, I think a lot of us here will be willing to test it if any bookies should eventually have the type of bet. But I wonder how they'll go about the bets. Will the odds be on a manager to be sacked during the season or at the end of the season? Or also on a coach whose team will be moved to the relegation zone due to poor coaching skill? If this happens, we may see a case where the a coach may likely bet against himself.

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Quote from: davis196 on May 29, 2023, 12:54:19 AM

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I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Why do you think it's crazy? This idea doesn't seem crazy at all. Since the events cannot be easily predicted by the bettors, there's no problem for the bookies to include such betting options in their platforms. I'm thinking about different ways to manipulate such betting options. What if the owner of a football team secretly places bets on sacking the manager of his football team? Wouldn't this be unfair? Maybe this is the main reason why the bookies won't implement such bets. The outcome of such events can be decided by a small amount of people, which makes those events easy to get manipulated.

I doubt this kind of manipulation is possible since the owner will not sacrifice his business for a mere bet. His reputation might put in danger since he will need a huge bet for that manipulation to become worth it since he is sacrificing ther team for the bet while casino will surely KYC himfor having that kind of bet.

An investigation will surely commence on his bet since its huge and win on a controversial pick. Only crazy owner will do this kind of manipulation because its not worth it.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

I don't know, what would happen if every online bookie had an idea like that, I personally don't know all football league managers, especially the English league and so on, plus the Spanish, Saudi Arabia, Italian, etc.

Maybe, if that kind of bet happens, obviously we have to see all the data managers in the whole league, I think it's a little boring, but if it really happens how to make a bet for them.

Whether, the manager is staying or the one being sacked during the league season, confused as well if such a bet happens, it's absolutely as crazy as the topic title.

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It seems to me that in the past there were some kind of custom bets where the player asked to bet on something, and the bookmaker then made it possible for him or not - if I'm not mistaken, that was possible on the UK market. And I just remembered one example that was talked about a lot about ten years ago.

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I don't see why it would be crazy to include a type of bet on coaches in the offer, because clubs change them very often, and realistically, many of these people should not be coaches because they are not for that job, regardless of whether some of them are were good players.

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It would be an interesting bet and I wonder how the managers of each club would feel if they saw their names on the sports betting register. It definitely won't be comfortable seeing their names there and maybe it will make them exert their energy and mind so they can still be managers at their club.

If there is a suggestion for these managers to be put into betting in crypto casinos, the casinos may try it into the new link in their casino. But it doesn't look like the casinos will put it on their betting list yet.

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Quote from: iv4n on May 29, 2023, 01:58:44 AM

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At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This bet will be highly unpredictable because some coaches are sacked even when they are performing well. The case of Chelsea's Thomas Tuchel and Totthenham's Antonio Conte is my case study. They show that they were good coaches because the clubs they left became worst after their sack and departure. Such bets will not be daily or weekly because coaches are rarely sacked and their numbers are few. So the bets might be every month, middle of the season, or at the end of the season. The idea sounds funny but I appreciate OP for this creative and innovative thinking that gave birth to this idea. Maybe OP can recommend this idea to sports bookies, they might consider this new invention and adopt it.

Apart from the fact that they will be extremely unpredictable, as you say, even coaches with good results are replaced for various reasons. I think that it might be too easy to manipulate this.

I also think that this idea sounds funny, it's creative and maybe it would be interesting for some people to bet on this, but I doubt it would attract much attention.

The coaches who have a history of doing well would be the coaches that have the highest odds. That's where the money would be.

Most sportsbooks futures bets for certain sports. You can bet on the number of wins a team will have in a season. It's not the same as betting on what coach will get fired, but if a team is shitty with a new coach, you might make some money betting on the under in games they will win.

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Nothing is impossible for casinos to add sports betting betting like this because we know for this season alone a lot in some leagues are sacking their managers, sometimes we see a club can change more than 2x managers in one season that's why I think the idea it's also good for gambling platforms to add bets like this in the next season.

I think the owner of the gambling platform will see your idea and then add it so that gamblers can bet bets like this, I know every club that loses will usually change its manager just because of an ordinary failure, but we see from this thread it seems that many gamblers agree with the idea you crazy. Cheesy

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Quote from: harizen on May 28, 2023, 06:46:06 PM

Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

In my long years of being a sports bettor, or betting on future events, I never saw that kind of betting but honestly not impossible to happen.

However, that type of betting isn't under any category of sports-related events that's why low chance to see any related betting for that in the usual sports-betting platform. Maybe if some platforms offer betting on future happenings, we can see that bet. Aside from that, that kind of bet might be taking advantage of those people who are within the circle of that club as they have inside information of what will possibly happen and bookies just created their own disadvantage.

Another idea would be, you can start a form of P2P betting, maybe on your circle of friends or to offer a challenge to anyone.

Overall though, I don't see that bet as an interesting one. It won't surely catch my interest or see it worth betting my money.

Intriguing viewpoint, pal! Yet, aren't we laying our bets on shaky ground? I mean, does winning at betting hinge on gauging human error? It's a real brain teaser, right? Indeed, sports betting typically zeroes in on the game's outcome, not the behind-the-scenes melodrama. But doesn't this type of betting teeter on the edge of a moral gray zone, kind of like insider trading? Betting on someone's job loss, based on privileged intel, seems a bit too 'spy novel' for my taste, wouldn't you agree?

As an aside, your suggestion about P2P betting piques my interest. It injects an extra layer of thrill and rivalry amongst buddies. However, could it inadvertently tiptoe into risky gambling territory? This subject is as slippery as a rain-soaked football pitch!

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

I don't really see anything wrong with such kind of bets, morally they might be a bit questionable but that shouldn't be an obstacle. We can bet on players getting transferred, so why not also bet on managers getting sacked. If there is enough demand for such kind of bets the bookmakers would add them for sure. There has been a lot of trainer changes this season and it would have been cool to make some money of it. After a few bad matches and getting knocked out in a big tournament it should be no issue to find new candidates that are getting fired. The only issue will be to convince bookmakers to offer such bets for a wide range of leagues and teams, and once it becomes clear that someone is getting fired the odds should become pretty one sided.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This bet will be highly unpredictable because some coaches are sacked even when they are performing well. The case of Chelsea's Thomas Tuchel and Totthenham's Antonio Conte is my case study. They show that they were good coaches because the clubs they left became worst after their sack and departure. Such bets will not be daily or weekly because coaches are rarely sacked and their numbers are few. So the bets might be every month, middle of the season, or at the end of the season. The idea sounds funny but I appreciate OP for this creative and innovative thinking that gave birth to this idea. Maybe OP can recommend this idea to sports bookies, they might consider this new invention and adopt it.

Apart from the fact that they will be extremely unpredictable, as you say, even coaches with good results are replaced for various reasons. I think that it might be too easy to manipulate this.

I also think that this idea sounds funny, it's creative and maybe it would be interesting for some people to bet on this, but I doubt it would attract much attention.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This bet will be highly unpredictable because some coaches are sacked even when they are performing well. The case of Chelsea's Thomas Tuchel and Totthenham's Antonio Conte is my case study. They show that they were good coaches because the clubs they left became worst after their sack and departure. Such bets will not be daily or weekly because coaches are rarely sacked and their numbers are few. So the bets might be every month, middle of the season, or at the end of the season. The idea sounds funny but I appreciate OP for this creative and innovative thinking that gave birth to this idea. Maybe OP can recommend this idea to sports bookies, they might consider this new invention and adopt it.

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