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I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Why do you think it's crazy? This idea doesn't seem crazy at all. Since the events cannot be easily predicted by the bettors, there's no problem for the bookies to include such betting options in their platforms. I'm thinking about different ways to manipulate such betting options. What if the owner of a football team secretly places bets on sacking the manager of his football team? Wouldn't this be unfair? Maybe this is the main reason why the bookies won't implement such bets. The outcome of such events can be decided by a small amount of people, which makes those events easy to get manipulated.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Interesting idea but will it be possible to see a bet like this exist? Because it may take a while for our bets to be settled because what we consider to be a poor performance is not valued equally by management. We'll see how Chelsea kept Potter for quite a while before finally sacking him, Juventus kept Allegri when their team was having bad luck and Bayern Munich, which we think is still in good enough condition but management decided to replace the coach in the middle of the season with Tomas Tuchel. So I don't think such a betting market will ever exist although it's quite interesting if we can bet that the most likely is to guess the next manager of a team that hasn't decided on a manager after the sack. Maybe if there is PvP sports betting you can start opening bets like this, will someone join your bet.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

This is a pretty nice idea, but the only issue here is that you will have to look for a sportsbook that offers such or perhaps suggest it to some of them that are in this forum to include it.
But to be sincere, I don't think I don't think it will be that easy to predict though, and this is the type of betting where you see some insanely high odds for some predictions like for example if this gets implemented in any casino you might come across a manager having up to 500 odds for him to get sacked those kind of managers aare the one doing extremely well and that has the lest probability of getting sacked.

Tbh, I don't alot of people will find this betting interesting they might just prefer their usual game rather thaan to bet on an impossibilty.

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If this was way back a few years ago, there’d be a market for this Grin

While it is not completely a sports thing but rather a management-related one, fans can still enjoy betting on who leaves next based on the team’s performance so in a way, it is somehow predictable. It may not be as sure as player transfers and whatnot but the grounds on which manager goes next is still there and gamblers just need to make sure that they hit the right predictions.

But yeah, the market for this will be very low though it’s a good idea still.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Everything can happen and can be a stake in gambling, so I don't be surprised if the next day any gambling site makes a new offer for who was sacked and who the best manager brings his club. But I think it's quite difficult to guess because when we look in the last session the coach is were good like Tuchel who bring the Champions League title, but fail in next session. So we could hard to guess if the coach is always windy and has experimented with style like Him, and It's different when Pep Guardiola in the list also because we can guess easily who the winning coach.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

But it's not sports? I reckon local small casinos wouldnt mind if you set it up yourself (together with payments which they won't deal with most likely) but I hardly doubt its going to be an official thing. Ever. It's also grounds for a lot of possible manipulation. I'm rather curious how this popped to your mind since I never considered betting about these kind of stuff in the first place.

And tbf, rather than this, I'd much rather bet on player transfers instead.

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I think this kind of bet isn't very realistic, because everyone can have access to the length of a contract signed by the club and the coach. So gamblers would simply bet the coach is going to leave the club on the date the contract expires. Of course there are chances the coach renews the contract, but it's still a potentially predictable event without much surprises or twists, different from a match where one team can defeat the another at anytime...

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I've seen Sportsbet whip up different betting markets regularly(multi bets, props, futures, etc.), so if there's a crypto sportsbook that can offer the specific line you're looking for, it's most likely them, but there's no guarantee they'll do it. Instead of one specific manager, I could see them offering a two-way market (for example an over or under for the total number of managers sacked in the EPL). Also, last weekend they offered this market where we could bet on the finalists of their prediction tournament.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

In my long years of being a sports bettor, or betting on future events, I never saw that kind of betting but honestly not impossible to happen.

However, that type of betting isn't under any category of sports-related events that's why low chance to see any related betting for that in the usual sports-betting platform. Maybe if some platforms offer betting on future happenings, we can see that bet. Aside from that, that kind of bet might be taking advantage of those people who are within the circle of that club as they have inside information of what will possibly happen and bookies just created their own disadvantage.

Another idea would be, you can start a form of P2P betting, maybe on your circle of friends or to offer a challenge to anyone.

Overall though, I don't see that bet as an interesting one. It won't surely catch my interest or see it worth betting my money.

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Maybe for some fun and still part of sports that people like to bet, these bookies can make this like random type of betting. I think some bookies have already this before and it's like an entertainment type of bet.

Quote from: danherbias07 on May 28, 2023, 06:17:41 PM

The NBA league also had a lot of coaches that are fired this year.
Here is the list.
Mike Budenholzer - Milwaukee Bucks
Doc Rivers - Philadelphia 76ers
Monty Williams - Phoenix Suns
Nick Nurse - Toronto Raptors

This is actually what I remember from the most recent stories in any sport aside from what OP has said. These coaches have been fired because they failed going onto the playoffs.

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How I wish they will input that. Cheesy

The NBA league also had a lot of coaches that are fired this year.
Here is the list.
Mike Budenholzer - Milwaukee Bucks
Doc Rivers - Philadelphia 76ers
Monty Williams - Phoenix Suns
Nick Nurse - Toronto Raptors

It is a crazy idea because what if the owners/management do know such a thing as gambling if their coaches/GM are fired exist, they might join in and take the bet. Cheesy

But what others said is right, this will be unpredictable picks. They have contracts but they are not like players who can be traded or bought out, there's always just one way to take them out, fire them like any normal employee of a company and we never know when that will happen. I think we are on the losing side here if we take the bet unless we have sources deep in the sport that we are betting for.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Possible but getting rigged and cheating is highly possible. Thinking that i as manager will be get fired sooner or later then a sportbook is trying to have a betting about this, then i as manager will bet for it on max bet a bookie can accept lol, because why not, i may get fired later on. But using another account is highly recommended lol

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wouldn't this be prone to cheating? I mean, people in each club that has information on whether the manager of the club will get fired or not can team up to relay information to each other and bet on the manager that is guaranteed that will get fired. I know what I said sounds absurd but knowing how fixed match happens, I do not doubt that this can happen too especially if there is profit.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

Below is a list of Premier League 2022-23: Managers who were sacked this season¹

Brendan Rodgers, Leicester City
Graham Potter, Chelsea
Antonio Conte, Spurs
Patrick Vieira, Crystal Palace
Nathan Jones, Southampton
Jesse Marsch, Leeds
Frank Lampard, Everton
Ralph Hasenhüttl, Southampton
Steven Gerrard, Aston Villa
Bruno Lage, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea
Scott Parker, Bournemouth

This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Hmm, that is an awful lot of managers to go in one season and maybe there is a betting market possibility - however sportbooks try to use data when formulating a decision on what odds to offer. I'm not sure there are enough data points to cover the sort of erratic dismissals that come up which would make them interested in offering this sort of market. Then again, they offer all sorts of bets on things like politics and even Eurovision, so it does seem sensible. I'd be surprised if nobody is offering this sort of bet, but maybe you can find it on a peer to peer betting platform instead. It would definitely be interesting to see a sort of top ten listing of who is perceived to be the most at risk of firing at any one time.

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

Below is a list of Premier League 2022-23: Managers who were sacked this season¹

Brendan Rodgers, Leicester City
Graham Potter, Chelsea
Antonio Conte, Spurs
Patrick Vieira, Crystal Palace
Nathan Jones, Southampton
Jesse Marsch, Leeds
Frank Lampard, Everton
Ralph Hasenhüttl, Southampton
Steven Gerrard, Aston Villa
Bruno Lage, Wolverhampton Wanderers
Thomas Tuchel, Chelsea
Scott Parker, Bournemouth

This is just the premier league only, there are other managers who were sacked in the other leagues. So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

1. https://khelnow.com/football/2023-02-world-football-premier-league-2022-23-managers-sacked-this-season

i think Betfair has this option and it's called Manager Special but i don't know if any crypto sportsbooks have this feature yet.
Maybe Sportsbet.io will try to implement it in their sportsbook because they have a special section that fits with manager specials.

https://footballwhispers.com/blog/next-manager-betting/

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Quote from: Davidvictorson on May 28, 2023, 02:32:14 PM

So I was thinking, isn't there a way to bet on managers who will most likely be fired by their club management before the season ends judging based on their performance?

At least sport bettors should have the pleasure of making these kind of bets too. I know it sounds crazy but that's what has been on my mind. Do you think it is feasible? Do you think sports bookies will incorporate this type of betting?

Betting on a manager that will most likely be sacked can work if a sportsbook decide to include it, but because the chances of coaches being sacked is very slim, bookies may not really consider it. But with good odds for Betting, it will attract people definetly if they decide to try. Gamblers bet on even more crazier things, this cannot be the craziest. If this kind of betting is incoparated, you will be able to predict from the performance of some teams that their coach will soon be sacked or not.

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You can bet on it because it also means they lost most of the games in that season so a bet for that already exists most likely. It might be more profitable to just bet on the many games lost rather then just one bet on the manager being sacked because they wont always be or it will outside the time limit defined in that specific bet.

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It just sounds crazy because its unusual but I won't say its impossible. Bet options depend to the platforms and if they would decide to add it then this could happen. One thing I'm not sure at is if there is a partnership between the league and gambling sites and if there is some sort of agreement to the betting categories allowed for a site to place, 'coz if there is then feasibility would be affected. I had the same idea such that if it is possible to have a bet category on players who won't be able to play on the next game or season; it would be hard to determine which makes sense if odds would be huge. But who knows, maybe some platforms would br able to accommodate such ideas which are unusual for sport bookies right? Other than the usual bets. Quite of a bet builder.

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Quote from: swogerino on May 28, 2023, 03:52:44 PM

I am sure that most bettors would love this type of bet.They are totally unpredictable though as they are different than most sport bets.In most sport bets we saw some games of certain teams and then we have a clear idea of this team form and we keep this in mind when we place our bets.In the sacking of coaches though it is totally unpredictable because no one of the bettors have the slightest idea of what the management of a team who is ready to sack a coach and the odds of such bets should be extremely high as even the bookies know no sh*t of what is going on in the mind of a management or board of directors of a team.

this kind of betting line won't be seen in a regular bookie. but it can very well be seen in futuur.com. if the OP wants, he can suggest it to futuur here because they are open to such kind of betting line if the demand is high. not really crazy idea if you suggest it to betting sites like futuur.
however, i don't think bookies like stake will add this betting line. they are more focused on the athletes or the team itself.

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I am sure that most bettors would love this type of bet.They are totally unpredictable though as they are different than most sport bets.In most sport bets we saw some games of certain teams and then we have a clear idea of this team form and we keep this in mind when we place our bets.In the sacking of coaches though it is totally unpredictable because no one of the bettors have the slightest idea of what the management of a team who is ready to sack a coach and the odds of such bets should be extremely high as even the bookies know no sh*t of what is going on in the mind of a management or board of directors of a team.

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