Credit card bans introduced in Ireland. - page 5.

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Quote from: arwin100 on August 31, 2021, 08:17:48 AM

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Although its not a permanent solution made by government but at least government do something to minimize the addiction of their citizen thru gambling and taking out the credit card option will make people stop betting once there fiat already drained. For sure this will create a slow effect to the gambling community and little by little the number of addicted players will decrease by this action made by Ireland government.

It's not going to minimize the gambling in the country, probably just made gambling more inconvenient for the gamblers since they can't usee credit cards. That's like what my country against smoking, they raised the taxes on it but the number of smokers haven't reduced in number.

It wouldn't surely stop gamblers from gambling because they will always find ways to play or bet. Even in most counties that restrict gambling can't completely control their people about it. However, it will still decrease the number of gamblers especially those who are just depending on their credit cards. If it could completely eliminate the increasing number of gamblers in their country in the future, I guess that's the best time to follow that strategy.

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Well apparently the association for the safer gambling regulation in Ireland have established that the credit card system might be causing a lot of problems for the people involved in gambling and that they might use it a lot and fall into debts, etc..

Therefore they have decided to ban it in both online and offline places.

I don't think that's really the case, either some sort of inside talk is happening and that the government and a lot of those credit card companies might have not reach an agreement in their latest lobbying sessions so they do this plus it's not a permanent solution to the rampant gambling activity in the country, it's not cleaning the demand which is the problem.

Although its not a permanent solution made by government but at least government do something to minimize the addiction of their citizen thru gambling and taking out the credit card option will make people stop betting once there fiat already drained. For sure this will create a slow effect to the gambling community and little by little the number of addicted players will decrease by this action made by Ireland government.

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Quote from: Chato1977 on August 31, 2021, 12:14:51 AM

I know Ireland for being strict in rules and laws but this will surely bring down gambling industry in their country because credit cards are part of financial support of each individual so even if use in gambling it is their problem .

Nope, I don't think so, I mean look at Muslim dominated states, they have a lottery there even though it's strict but they still have a flourishing gambling industry there. Also, it's not really effective for gamblers that have ways to make some money no matter what.

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The gamblers will figure out how they can still play gambling using the other methods if the government bans credit or debit cards from depositing the money in the casino.
If the gamblers know much about crypto, that can help them play gambling without their government knowing, but the addiction problem can increase because of using the crypto.
As long as people know how to treat gambling, it does not matter if their government uses a credit card ban, people will have a chance to prevent the addiction.
But hopefully, people can become wise using their credit or debit card and not use it for something they do not really need.

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Ireland is developed country and they will never act stupid just to hinder people from gambling , Credit card is one of the most used mode of payments in their country so why would banned this using in gambling?
this might be a propaganda but won't succeed because gamblers nationwide will oppose this and may become a big issue if pushed by the government.

Quote from: leea-1334 on August 31, 2021, 01:25:37 AM

So how would they be allowed to deposit then? Just cash? This new thing I heard is this whistle to whistle thing. I had to look it up. So it just means from start to finish of games. I think that is great in a way but then I would miss out on big bets if I was watching in the UK. I love seeing the Irish bet ads sometimes they are just funny:)

That's it , it will never be into reality because of the basic issue like depositing .

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Credit cards are banned from gambling in Ireland, there will be alternative methods the government imposed the ban after most people using credit cards were found to be problem players the prohibition will apply to all types of online and offline gambling except lottery. Gambling can be a significant financial loss when using a credit card the risk of loss should be reduced with money that players do not have. Banning credit cards online could increase the number of offline gamblers.

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Actually not only ireland banned the use of credit cards for gambling, but the UK in 2020 also implemented the ban on credit card users, the increase in online and offline gambling in the UK triggered the British government to make the ban and maybe this is what is now also triggers the Irish government to do the same thing as the British government did, in my opinion, the use of credit cards in gambling will certainly make the user' finances become problematic, so that later the burden of billing by credit cards can worsen the financial situation of gamblers and will certainly have a worse impact on them.

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Personally I think it's a well justified move.

Usually when people are funding their gambling with debt nothing good comes as a result. I'm sure that there were regulatory pressures from the government to undertake this as well given that it is industry standard in other parts of the world.

One step closer to player empowerment, although I think that credit card agencies should also take a proactive role in banning their users from using credit cards on gambling sites.

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Quote from: leea-1334 on August 31, 2021, 01:25:37 AM

So how would they be allowed to deposit then? Just cash? This new thing I heard is this whistle to whistle thing. I had to look it up. So it just means from start to finish of games. I think that is great in a way but then I would miss out on big bets if I was watching in the UK. I love seeing the Irish bet ads sometimes they are just funny:)

Yes, most probably it's going to be cash money for gambling. No more credits are you will sink deep in your knees and it's going to be hard to pay your gambling debts. And maybe this is what the government of Ireland is trying to do. Protect them from incurring charges from the banks itself because most likely this gamblers can't pay on time.

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 30, 2021, 10:14:27 PM

I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.

Yes, it is. I think that is part of the concern of their government to prevent the addiction that can happen to their people so they use new policy for their people. People should realize that when gambling, they should use free money and not use more money by deposit to the casino. Gambling using credit or debit cards can give bigger risk to the people as they can easily deposit more money. But I think no matter how strict the policy or have a new policy will not work if their people do not realize how dangerous gambling is for them.

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So how would they be allowed to deposit then? Just cash? This new thing I heard is this whistle to whistle thing. I had to look it up. So it just means from start to finish of games. I think that is great in a way but then I would miss out on big bets if I was watching in the UK. I love seeing the Irish bet ads sometimes they are just funny:)

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This will drive up crypto adoption imo. Just because people can't use their credit cards doesn't mean that they will stop gambling. They will find something else. It will be either their debit cards or their crypto balance. Since it is a child's play to buy/sell crypto now they will probably avoid the headache of using banks again and use crypto instead. That's the most logical way to approach this ban.

Unless the authorities get a wind of this, pretty sure that crypto might get regulated too but I think it's going to take some time before that happens so there's a possibility that we're going to see it go up and then slumped down when it gets regulated plus it's not really going to stop the gamblers in the country because it's band aid solution in my opinion.

That's also possible what what other choice these people have now other than using crypto? If they regulate crypto then these people still won't stop playing magically. They will find a local casino this time. I never saw a gambling addict that stopped playing because it was illegal to play. They always find a way.

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Why are the offline and online shops affected in this one, shouldn't it be the gambling alone that's affected by the credit card ban and what's the story behind the ban of credit cards in Ireland? That's a really strange ban in my opinion.

reading the source has been given above you , it would be a big help reading it instead of asking here ..

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I know Ireland for being strict in rules and laws but this will surely bring down gambling industry in their country because credit cards are part of financial support of each individual so even if use in gambling it is their problem .

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Quote from: Fundamentals Of on August 30, 2021, 10:14:27 PM

I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.

That's not gonna stop gamblers, they can just use fiat for gambling plus it's not like they banned the use of ATMs in the country so there's still a way, this is just the government doing something just to say that they're doing something. Also, you don't say that kind of BS with money used by this people for gambling, they know that it can be used for savings but they don't want to, what part of gambler that you don't understand?

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they knew to themselves that what they are doing is not enough but they didnt increase the restriction . that only shows that they have a care left to the gamblers of thier country .

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However, we believe that these measures continue the journey the industry has been on in recent years, to ensure standards are increased for all

if theres no measures like this gambling will not survived but it will be hated or cursed because many people will become addicted and destroy ther lives .
increased in standards makes gambling more profesional or appealing

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Although at first sight it may seem a correct measure, since no one should gamble with money they do not have and go into debt to do so, it is a useless measure.

Quote from: uneng on August 30, 2021, 12:51:30 PM

Worthless proposition from worthless authorities. Gamblers won't stop gambling and going into debt because credit cards and advertisements are going to be censored. There are another ways to acquire credit to gamble and I would say they are much more dangerous if compared to credit cards...

I guess you're thinking of them ending up borrowing money from a private lender, mobster or something. But even today there are much easier alternatives. You can get instant loans for example. Then you deposit in the casino with a debit card the money you have borrowed. In other words, the ban will be of little use.

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I think I agree with this new policy introduced in Ireland. This will protect people from getting drowned into gambling. It is all right to gamble of course. But it has to be made sure gambling will remain as a past time activity and gambling expenses kept at a minimum. Gambling using credit is not a wise thing. Money spent for gambling should be the excess or the extra savings. Credit card gambling is like borrowing money for the sake of wasting it over gambling.

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Quote from: mindrust on August 30, 2021, 04:15:43 PM

This will drive up crypto adoption imo. Just because people can't use their credit cards doesn't mean that they will stop gambling. They will find something else. It will be either their debit cards or their crypto balance. Since it is a child's play to buy/sell crypto now they will probably avoid the headache of using banks again and use crypto instead. That's the most logical way to approach this ban.

Unless the authorities get a wind of this, pretty sure that crypto might get regulated too but I think it's going to take some time before that happens so there's a possibility that we're going to see it go up and then slumped down when it gets regulated plus it's not really going to stop the gamblers in the country because it's band aid solution in my opinion.

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Quote from: Baofeng on August 30, 2021, 05:39:12 PM

That's very strict in my opinion, nevertheless, the government has the total power to control everything so gamblers in Ireland can't do anything about it. But gamblers will be gamblers, this is just one step, but they will always find a way to bet on any sports regardless of this credit card bans. So I don't think they can really curb upon gambling in their country, on the contrary it might get worst as those gamblers will find a way to continue their activity or worse their addiction through loan sharks.

Limitations can make gamblers be desperate more. The lesser the options, the more these gamblers can find a way. I admire the Ireland country is doing good and maybe we can expect more policies regarding safe gambling. There are also only a few gambling providers that will involve in the credit card banning and other operators can still use it as their payment method.

The purpose is good but it's just a band-aid solution.

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They just make things complicated. They can just ask the gambling site operators to remove credit card purchases on their payment method option. Why ban is still the term used there.

I read in the article that it's for safer gambling but even with no credit card used, I don't see how it will reduce the gambling usage of people.

As mentioned in the article too, "The credit card ban will be in place both online and in shops" then what's the use of credit card ban payments if cash payments are still active and accepted at their physical shops. I know they want to save people from taking loans but there's a better idea to solve it.

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