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October 18, 2019, 05:32:10 AM
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/sarfaraz-ahmed-sacked-as-pakistans-test-and-t20-captain/articleshow/71646519.cms

Damn. Saw this coming from a mile away. He has been in the news from quite a long time for so many negative reasons which is why I feel that Misbah made the right call here. Azam seems to be the right choice as the T-20 captain though I did not expect Azhar to become the ODI captain. Lets see how this move plays out.
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October 18, 2019, 04:44:34 AM
It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.
It is true that the quality of Pakistan players are going down and they are finding it hard to find quality batsman, they always had talented bowlers but their batting is their main issue and they are not able to identify any quality players while India on the other hand is going through the best time in their cricketing history with a good bench strength

Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.
T20 is hard to predict and anyone can win but ODI and Test match India will dominate Pakistan.
Compared to the other leading teams of the table India seems quite strong in ODI and test cricket. The separate squad for both ODI and test cricket has got small changes, and if one fails to perform or take responsibility the same is being done by the player following. This is giving success for India over the past matches played. However there will be certain time period for each team to flourish, now it's the time of India in my view.
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October 18, 2019, 03:11:05 AM
It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.
It is true that the quality of Pakistan players are going down and they are finding it hard to find quality batsman, they always had talented bowlers but their batting is their main issue and they are not able to identify any quality players while India on the other hand is going through the best time in their cricketing history with a good bench strength

Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.
T20 is hard to predict and anyone can win but ODI and Test match India will dominate Pakistan.
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October 18, 2019, 02:31:41 AM
To be realistic, I don't expect the India-Pakistan bilateral series to get revived anytime during the next 5-6 years. The political climate is very charged up in India and anyone who openly supports such a series risks being hammered by the media and the politicians. Under such circumstances I don't think that either Ganguly or Modi will take such a risk. The Indian PM is increasingly getting sidelined by his more right-wing deputy (Amit Shah), and he can't afford taking a softer line towards Pakistan now.

On the other hand, the Pakistanis are all in favor of the series going ahead. No surprises there, as the PCB is in a bad financial condition and any series with India (if possible) can bring them huge amounts of revenue. But the issue is that India doesn't need such a series right now. They are earning billions of USD from the IPL alone, and they don't really need any bilateral series to boost their coffers.

@bryant.coleman I’ll agree as it’s very difficult to see a bilateral series happening anytime soon between these two Asian nations, but I feel cricket should be above politics. The only way I see this series happening is if the Pakistan PM personally reaches out to the Indian PM, and requests him for this series to take place. While there’s no doubt that BCCI doesn’t need more money, but this series is about emotions and whenever these two sides play the entire world watches hence ICC should compel them to play each other.
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October 18, 2019, 01:34:42 AM
Every year how many ICC tournaments are there to see both these teams playing each other.
It is true that there are popular tournaments like the World Cup etc take place irregularly, but this makes the clashes between teams like India and Pakistan even more satisfying. Also, the India vs Pakistan match craze has decreased with time due to one sided wins by India from a long time.

This is why I don't think that this is a big deal. Am personally looking forward to the T-20 World Cup at around this time next year where we will get to watch these teams in action.
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October 17, 2019, 11:16:30 PM
To be realistic, I don't expect the India-Pakistan bilateral series to get revived anytime during the next 5-6 years. The political climate is very charged up in India and anyone who openly supports such a series risks being hammered by the media and the politicians. Under such circumstances I don't think that either Ganguly or Modi will take such a risk. The Indian PM is increasingly getting sidelined by his more right-wing deputy (Amit Shah), and he can't afford taking a softer line towards Pakistan now.

On the other hand, the Pakistanis are all in favor of the series going ahead. No surprises there, as the PCB is in a bad financial condition and any series with India (if possible) can bring them huge amounts of revenue. But the issue is that India doesn't need such a series right now. They are earning billions of USD from the IPL alone, and they don't really need any bilateral series to boost their coffers.
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October 17, 2019, 04:12:37 PM
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I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).
I have no idea about the present political tensions but both these countries are always fighting but what we people does not understand is that what they are fighting about and what makes them fight against each other all the time. Sporting events must not mix with politics and they should allow them to play if not in Pakistan or India then should play in neutral grounds.

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.
Every year how many ICC tournaments are there to see both these teams playing each other.
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October 17, 2019, 03:56:33 PM
Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries
If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh  Cheesy.

PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s  Tongue Cheesy.
I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.

I agree. I include Sourav in one of the very few sane voices from both sides (India and Pakistan). Unlike players like Gautam Gambhir and Javed Miandad, he never promoted hate and always tried to keep both the countries closer to each other.
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October 17, 2019, 03:14:51 PM
Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries
If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh  Cheesy.

PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s  Tongue Cheesy.
I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.
I agree big problem is in India because every time they are refusing to tour Pakistan and starting propaganda about Terrorism its all about they don't want PCB have some good revenue from this series and they become stable every time they run away so its still need years.
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October 17, 2019, 02:46:04 PM
Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries
If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh  Cheesy.

PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s  Tongue Cheesy.
I don't think Imran Khan would get convinced easily either due to the growing political tensions between both countries. Ganguly is trying to do something good here and I respect his initiative, but I don't think India will tour Pakistan or vica versa anytime soon(Might take years).

I honestly don't really think this is a huge deal since we get to see amazing matches between both these teams now and then through world tournaments(T-20 and 50 over World cup etc.
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October 17, 2019, 02:24:34 PM
Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:
Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries
If this is true and if Sourav Ganguly can convince both countries political system then it would be a great series just like the Ashes, but the political system in both countries are screwed, now Pakistan is trying their best to attract other teams promising more security and i am sure the Pakistan political system might approve the match because the leader was a cricketing legend and he might want to see cricket in their country but convincing Indian leaders will be a hurdle because of their bloopers and challenges to common sense that will make everyone laugh  Cheesy.

PS: i am not insulting anyone but telling what i saw in the media as there were more memes in social media about radar theory and the leader being a tea seller but was using internet and digital camera in the early 80s  Tongue Cheesy.
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October 17, 2019, 01:23:04 PM
Hmmm... I hope it gets an approval:

Sourav Ganguly Says India-Pakistan Bilateral Cricket Needs Approval From Prime Ministers Of Both Countries

https://sports.ndtv.com/cricket/sourav-ganguly-speaks-on-india-pakistan-bilateral-cricket-2118233
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September 15, 2019, 09:05:43 AM
There must be a reason of why players do not want to visit and play in that country ? Also this is not a decision of a single country but all the countries have together decided this. There must be some issues which only the local people can tell better.

Visiting teams were attacked in Pakistan before, and this is in everyone's mind whenever the PCB requests foreign teams to play their matches in Karachi or Lahore, instead of the usual home grounds (Sharjah, Dubai.etc). A balance needs to be reached between the two aspects. PCB is in bad financial situation due to their inability to host international matches. At the same time, the foreign teams can't be forced to play their matches in Pakistan, unless there is a great deal of improvement in the security situation. 

What do you mean by the teams were attacked in Pakistan ? When did that happen and how many teams were being attack ?
Do they had some causalities or injuries too?
But I think it could not happen because the visiting teams are usually given big security everywhere in the world.

That sad incident happen 10 years ago in 2009. If you are interested to know more about this you can find details here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_attack_on_the_Sri_Lanka_national_cricket_team
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September 15, 2019, 05:26:44 AM
There must be a reason of why players do not want to visit and play in that country ? Also this is not a decision of a single country but all the countries have together decided this. There must be some issues which only the local people can tell better.

Visiting teams were attacked in Pakistan before, and this is in everyone's mind whenever the PCB requests foreign teams to play their matches in Karachi or Lahore, instead of the usual home grounds (Sharjah, Dubai.etc). A balance needs to be reached between the two aspects. PCB is in bad financial situation due to their inability to host international matches. At the same time, the foreign teams can't be forced to play their matches in Pakistan, unless there is a great deal of improvement in the security situation. 

What do you mean by the teams were attacked in Pakistan ? When did that happen and how many teams were being attack ?
Do they had some causalities or injuries too?
But I think it could not happen because the visiting teams are usually given big security everywhere in the world.
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September 15, 2019, 12:11:42 AM
There must be a reason of why players do not want to visit and play in that country ? Also this is not a decision of a single country but all the countries have together decided this. There must be some issues which only the local people can tell better.

Visiting teams were attacked in Pakistan before, and this is in everyone's mind whenever the PCB requests foreign teams to play their matches in Karachi or Lahore, instead of the usual home grounds (Sharjah, Dubai.etc). A balance needs to be reached between the two aspects. PCB is in bad financial situation due to their inability to host international matches. At the same time, the foreign teams can't be forced to play their matches in Pakistan, unless there is a great deal of improvement in the security situation. 
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September 14, 2019, 09:26:28 AM


Bhai smoking weed again.....  Huh

You might want to reread posts. Not a single person in the last 2 pages meant or used the word "Terrorist nation" together, let alone " Pakistan is a terrorist nation".


I am reading the stuff without smoking.
What do you understand when you read the below stuff.  Huh


This is the best decision overall and I applaud Malinga for helping make this decision. The Pakistan government have been advised multiple times by countries from around the world to minimize these terrorist issues, but I still don't see much of a difference.
Unless their government itself does something about this, teams will always have issues with touring Pakistan.

Hmm can't help you if you don't even want to understand the context. guess you didn't even bother to read next comment which was posted by @indy.

There must be a reason of why players do not want to visit and play in that country ? Also this is not a decision of a single country but all the countries have together decided this. There must be some issues which only the local people can tell better.
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September 14, 2019, 08:39:43 AM


Bhai smoking weed again.....  Huh

You might want to reread posts. Not a single person in the last 2 pages meant or used the word "Terrorist nation" together, let alone " Pakistan is a terrorist nation".


I am reading the stuff without smoking.
What do you understand when you read the below stuff.  Huh


This is the best decision overall and I applaud Malinga for helping make this decision. The Pakistan government have been advised multiple times by countries from around the world to minimize these terrorist issues, but I still don't see much of a difference.
Unless their government itself does something about this, teams will always have issues with touring Pakistan.

Hmm can't help you if you don't even want to understand the context. guess you didn't even bother to read next comment which was posted by @indy.
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September 14, 2019, 08:22:52 AM


Bhai smoking weed again.....  Huh

You might want to reread posts. Not a single person in the last 2 pages meant or used the word "Terrorist nation" together, let alone " Pakistan is a terrorist nation".


I am reading the stuff without smoking.
What do you understand when you read the below stuff.  Huh


This is the best decision overall and I applaud Malinga for helping make this decision. The Pakistan government have been advised multiple times by countries from around the world to minimize these terrorist issues, but I still don't see much of a difference.
Unless their government itself does something about this, teams will always have issues with touring Pakistan.
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September 14, 2019, 08:06:53 AM
On the other hand, INDIA is the biggest terrorists as they are killing innocent people in the Kashmir and the world is silent on their shameless act.
I don't understand what you gain by mixing politics and sports. This is a sports discussion board and it is best to stick to that. No country is perfect(India, Pakistan etc) and it is best to discuss the political stuff in the politics board.

It makes sense why countries like India and Sri Lanka are dropping the Pakistan tours since they wish to ensure the safety of their players. Player safety is the primary priority of any team basically.



Ok i have omitted that line from my post (Sportsmanship  Smiley)  but you only pointed out this line (& snip the rest of my post) and try to confuse the people that i am mixing sports with politics.

The fact is that the couple of posts above were discussing that Pakistan is a terrorist nation and that's why the international cricket do not return to this place which is not correct and i also pointed out who is the real terrorist in the present world.

Now i hope that you will understand this and do not try to misunderstand the post.  Smiley

Bhai smoking weed again.....  Huh

You might want to reread posts. Not a single person in the last 2 pages meant or used the word "Terrorist nation" together, let alone " Pakistan is a terrorist nation".
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September 14, 2019, 07:31:58 AM
On the other hand, INDIA is the biggest terrorists as they are killing innocent people in the Kashmir and the world is silent on their shameless act.
I don't understand what you gain by mixing politics and sports. This is a sports discussion board and it is best to stick to that. No country is perfect(India, Pakistan etc) and it is best to discuss the political stuff in the politics board.

It makes sense why countries like India and Sri Lanka are dropping the Pakistan tours since they wish to ensure the safety of their players. Player safety is the primary priority of any team basically.



Ok i have omitted that line from my post (Sportsmanship  Smiley)  but you only pointed out this line (& snip the rest of my post) and try to confuse the people that i am mixing sports with politics.

The fact is that the couple of posts above were discussing that Pakistan is a terrorist nation and that's why the international cricket do not return to this place which is not correct and i also pointed out who is the real terrorist in the present world.

Now i hope that you will understand this and do not try to misunderstand the post.  Smiley
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