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October 31, 2018, 11:20:53 PM
I think the ban on Smith and Warner needs to stand because if they back flip on their decision now it won't look good on Cricket Australia so it needs to stay in place no matter how the team is performing without them. I just think the ones that want it lifted are worried about crowd numbers as like I said with the current form the Australian team is in, no one would want to pay money to watch them even though they are playing a top team in India. I'll be interested to see the crowd numbers this summer compared to previous Australian summers when India have toured Australia. I will also say this and that is this is India's big chance to win their first test match series in Australia as they have never won a series in Australia.

While I agree with your perspective let's not forget Cricket is like any other sports it's for commercials, and team India's board is the richest,and they'll exert pressure on CA, in addition to their sponsors they'll want Warner and Smith to come out of exile. Though it's to early to confirm if they'll be allowed to make a comeback so soon, but I feel they should other wise this series shall be a dull one. However if they're not included then my money is on team India to win it comfortably and easily.
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October 31, 2018, 09:28:47 PM
I think the ban on Smith and Warner needs to stand because if they back flip on their decision now it won't look good on Cricket Australia so it needs to stay in place no matter how the team is performing without them. I just think the ones that want it lifted are worried about crowd numbers as like I said with the current form the Australian team is in, no one would want to pay money to watch them even though they are playing a top team in India. I'll be interested to see the crowd numbers this summer compared to previous Australian summers when India have toured Australia. I will also say this and that is this is India's big chance to win their first test match series in Australia as they have never won a series in Australia.

Yeah, it shouldn't. CA already took the high ground in this matter so no question of backing down now. Atm, we can only wait, let's see what will happen in Adelaide Oval.hoping on an excellent opening test match. India will go as a Favorite but cricket is a funny game. Hope India will not repeat the same mistake as they did in England. I am excited to see Prithvi Shaw and Rishabh Pant.
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October 31, 2018, 05:22:42 PM
I think the ban on Smith and Warner needs to stand because if they back flip on their decision now it won't look good on Cricket Australia so it needs to stay in place no matter how the team is performing without them. I just think the ones that want it lifted are worried about crowd numbers as like I said with the current form the Australian team is in, no one would want to pay money to watch them even though they are playing a top team in India. I'll be interested to see the crowd numbers this summer compared to previous Australian summers when India have toured Australia. I will also say this and that is this is India's big chance to win their first test match series in Australia as they have never won a series in Australia.
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October 31, 2018, 03:17:41 PM
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New Zealand doing good there they are near to win, but Pakistan team also doing good attacking bowling the new Zealand already 72/2 in 12 over and I am going to bet on New Zealand because they they have big hitter with them.

Looks like you lost your bet mate Wink

Pakistani bowlers defended the total exceptionally at the very end. Ross Taylor should've somehow managed to get those runs with the required run rate, he's probably the senior-most player of the team and still looked unconfident in his batting.

Didn't watch the match, Probably will catch the highlights later today. From looking at the scorecard it looks like it was a thriller.
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October 31, 2018, 03:02:09 PM
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New Zealand doing good there they are near to win, but Pakistan team also doing good attacking bowling the new Zealand already 72/2 in 12 over and I am going to bet on New Zealand because they they have big hitter with them.

Looks like you lost your bet mate Wink

Pakistani bowlers defended the total exceptionally at the very end. Ross Taylor should've somehow managed to get those runs with the required run rate, he's probably the senior-most player of the team and still looked unconfident in his batting.
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October 31, 2018, 02:54:54 PM
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Of course, it is against the rule and perpetrator should face the consequences no matter what. btw ICCI rule is 5-6 test match ban if someone gets caught or found guilty on the accusation of ball tampering. that's why I mentioned One year is way too long period and no other board will do the same what CA did on the Sandpapergate saga.

The rules are lousy, to say the least. Also, Teams hardly play more than 10 Test matches per year. Usually, 5-6 matches mean a timeframe of about a year. So the Ban period isn't long as you are claiming.

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No idea why you suddenly jumped into the conclusion that I am justifying Cheating.

The reason I jumped to my conclusion was that you are trying to gather sympathy for cheats. I have zero respect for people who have been involved in any sort of Ball-Tampering or Spot Fixing. They don't deserve a 2nd chance IMO. Whether its Amir or Smith. The punishment should be as severe as it can be. You can't play with the emotions of millions of people who watch this game. It's not fair to them.



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New Zealand doing good there they are near to win, but Pakistan team also doing good attacking bowling the new Zealand already 72/2 in 12 over and I am going to bet on New Zealand because they they have big hitter with them.

Looks like you lost your bet mate Wink
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October 31, 2018, 01:42:10 PM
New Zealand doing good there they are near to win, but Pakistan team also doing good attacking bowling the new Zealand already 72/2 in 12 over and I am going to bet on New Zealand because they they have big hitter with them.
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October 31, 2018, 01:32:06 PM

It is certain agaisnt the rules of the game and whoever it may be how big player may be action will be taken against them. So was the case for Warner and Smith as proven guilty OZ have banned them for a year and letting everybody else know what the rsult could be if anyone try to do such things.


Of course, it is against the rule and perpetrator should face the consequences no matter what. btw ICCI rule is 5-6 test match ban if someone gets caught or found guilty on the accusation of ball tampering. that's why I mentioned One year is way too long period and no other board will do the same what CA did on the Sandpapergate saga.

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Believe or not Ball tempering has always been a big part of test cricket. before we had a few cameras on the ground now every move is monitored and it's completely different from Spot fixing. Make no mistake to mixing them up together.

Wait! so are you trying to justify cheating? Spot-fixing = Cheating, Tampering the ball = Cheating. Why is it hard for you to grasp this simple concept?

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One year ban is a very long period but CA took a tough and bold decision in this ball-tempering Saga due to backlash in Aus.

Wow, I mean Amir got banned for 5 years for a single ball which didn't even matter in the match's scenario while Smith and Warner did something which could have turned the match in their favor, How is the first offence more punishable than the second?

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Can you imagine the same thing happening in India if Virat Kohli gets caught in the same situation? Big No from BCCI even ECB or CSA.

Yeah, how can I imagine that, Roll Eyes Where Spot-Fixers were let off from the courts in india. I get it betting is a big business in India but please don't try to justify either of them.

No idea why you suddenly jumped into the conclusion that I am justifying Cheating. I am not. Spot-fixing and Ball tampering are two different things. Spot-fixing and Match Fixing come under Anti-corruption code and Ball tampering come under Fair and unfair play. Both are cheating? Yes, but same? No.

If you have something substantial comment to add here or want me to correct, then please do so, you are more than welcome. I will accept my mistakes, more importantly, will correct them but please don't jump into any conclusion. We are here for discussion and learn something not to put each other down.

I understand you didn't know about this Anti-corruption code that's why you are talking about Amir. Did it ever occur to you why Southwark Crown Court, England sentenced him 6 months? Yes, you heard it right Court. After that Ban followed by ICCI. Now let me ask you that have you ever come across any case in cricket history where Player got punished by Court because of Ball-tampering? The answer is No.

Please reread the context when I mentioned Virat as an example. I was talking about Ball tampering, not spot-fixing, I understand that there will be a strong reaction if Virat gets caught in the same situation as the Aussie players did but Board will slap him on the wrist with maximum 5-6 test match ban, but one year ban? I don't think so.
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October 31, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
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Believe or not Ball tempering has always been a big part of test cricket. before we had a few cameras on the ground now every move is monitored and it's completely different from Spot fixing. Make no mistake to mixing them up together.

Wait! so are you trying to justify cheating? Spot-fixing = Cheating, Tampering the ball = Cheating. Why is it hard for you to grasp this simple concept?

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One year ban is a very long period but CA took a tough and bold decision in this ball-tempering Saga due to backlash in Aus.

Wow, I mean Amir got banned for 5 years for a single ball which didn't even matter in the match's scenario while Smith and Warner did something which could have turned the match in their favor, How is the first offence more punishable than the second?

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Can you imagine the same thing happening in India if Virat Kohli gets caught in the same situation? Big No from BCCI even ECB or CSA.

Yeah, how can I imagine that, Roll Eyes Where Spot-Fixers were let off from the courts in india. I get it betting is a big business in India but please don't try to justify either of them.
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October 31, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
There is a lot of rumbling in the Australian media that the cricket association want to lift the bans on Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft but the board is sticking to their decision at the present time. To be honest this could be one of the worst Australian summers in many years even though India is touring Australia but with Smith and Warner out and they way the team is playing right now it doesn't look good. I'm not sure they will attract the crowds like they normally do and that is why I think the cricket association is trying to get these bans lifted. Time will tell if this happens or not but right now the bans will stand.

If for this reasons and all if the bans are lifted then tomorrow all other country will also lift the ban imposed to their players giving any reasons. They were banned for illegal doing which is correct and what board is doing is also good. If Australia cannot win without them then it is shame on Australia cricket that they dont have more potential players apart from their banned players.

Bhai, Believe or not Ball tempering has always been a big part of test cricket. before we had a few cameras on the ground now every move is monitored and it's completely different from Spot fixing. Make no mistake to mixing them up together.

One year ban is a very long period but CA took a tough and bold decision in this ball-tempering Saga due to backlash in Aus. not to mention Prime minister's comment was cherry on top IMHO.

Can you imagine the same thing happening in India if Virat Kohli gets caught in the same situation? Big No from BCCI even ECB or CSA.

It is certain agaisnt the rules of the game and whoever it may be how big player may be action will be taken against them. So was the case for Warner and Smith as proven guilty OZ have banned them for a year and letting everybody else know what the rsult could be if anyone try to do such things.
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October 30, 2018, 11:46:58 PM
There is a lot of rumbling in the Australian media that the cricket association want to lift the bans on Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft but the board is sticking to their decision at the present time. To be honest this could be one of the worst Australian summers in many years even though India is touring Australia but with Smith and Warner out and they way the team is playing right now it doesn't look good. I'm not sure they will attract the crowds like they normally do and that is why I think the cricket association is trying to get these bans lifted. Time will tell if this happens or not but right now the bans will stand.

If for this reasons and all if the bans are lifted then tomorrow all other country will also lift the ban imposed to their players giving any reasons. They were banned for illegal doing which is correct and what board is doing is also good. If Australia cannot win without them then it is shame on Australia cricket that they dont have more potential players apart from their banned players.

Bhai, Believe or not Ball tempering has always been a big part of test cricket. before we had a few cameras on the ground now every move is monitored and it's completely different from Spot fixing. Make no mistake to mixing them up together.

One year ban is a very long period but CA took a tough and bold decision in this ball-tempering Saga due to backlash in Aus. not to mention Prime minister's comment was cherry on top IMHO.

Can you imagine the same thing happening in India if Virat Kohli gets caught in the same situation? Big No from BCCI even ECB or CSA.
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October 30, 2018, 09:09:06 PM
There is a lot of rumbling in the Australian media that the cricket association want to lift the bans on Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft but the board is sticking to their decision at the present time. To be honest this could be one of the worst Australian summers in many years even though India is touring Australia but with Smith and Warner out and they way the team is playing right now it doesn't look good. I'm not sure they will attract the crowds like they normally do and that is why I think the cricket association is trying to get these bans lifted. Time will tell if this happens or not but right now the bans will stand.

If for this reasons and all if the bans are lifted then tomorrow all other country will also lift the ban imposed to their players giving any reasons. They were banned for illegal doing which is correct and what board is doing is also good. If Australia cannot win without them then it is shame on Australia cricket that they dont have more potential players apart from their banned players.
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October 30, 2018, 04:52:55 PM
There is a lot of rumbling in the Australian media that the cricket association want to lift the bans on Steve Smith, David Warner and Cameron Bancroft but the board is sticking to their decision at the present time. To be honest this could be one of the worst Australian summers in many years even though India is touring Australia but with Smith and Warner out and they way the team is playing right now it doesn't look good. I'm not sure they will attract the crowds like they normally do and that is why I think the cricket association is trying to get these bans lifted. Time will tell if this happens or not but right now the bans will stand.
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October 30, 2018, 01:09:58 PM
After a few good performances during the initial matches, the West Indies team is back to their usual state. They lost the match by a massive 224 runs!!! Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that even teams like Afghanistan or Ireland have lost against India by this much margin.

Well, the West Indies' batting totally collapsed today. Except for the captain, Jason Holder, nobody crossed 20 runs.

However, the performance of West Indies has remained quite volatile in the past few months, I'd not be surprised if they give India a very tough time in the next match as it'll be the series-decider match. West Indies can no longer win the series, but they can work hard to get the series draw with 2-2.
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October 30, 2018, 08:19:04 AM
After a few good performances during the initial matches, the West Indies team is back to their usual state. They lost the match by a massive 224 runs!!! Correct me if I am wrong, but I don't think that even teams like Afghanistan or Ireland have lost against India by this much margin.
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October 29, 2018, 09:29:15 PM
Would love to see another close match, Pitch looks like a graveyard for bowlers lol. Now its all up to Windies batsmen.

After a good start from West Indies, 3 wickets in 6 balls, bhuvneshwar took 2 wickets and bumrah 1 wickets in this 6 balls, it is a big blow and now it looks hard for WI to win, now let see with how many runs they are going to lose them the match. If India wins today then they will be in 2-1 ration and last match will become more interesting.

Sadly I missed the good show of Indian bowlers in this dead pitch and India won easily lol and it appears to me Khaleel bowled exceptionally well along with Kuldeep and Jadeja. for me Ambati Raydu's inning is a good sign or should I say relief moment.
Little disappointed when it comes to Dhawan. he keeps throwing his wicket after getting a good start and I was wishing for a 4th double century for Rohit but koi na. he will get there soon Cheesy
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October 29, 2018, 05:24:20 PM
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Again the total Pakistan posted was huge

You are kidding, right? I never knew a total of 150 was considered a "Huge" target in the t20 format. It's a below average total if you ask me.

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Australia were in the match but once again their batting let them down.

Except for the first over of Imad Wasim, they were never "in-game". I mean if you look the teams on paper, Austrailia had a squad which could chase down totals of 180+ easily. They had the "explosive" batsmen in their line-up but the only problem with them in this series was that they didn't play "smart cricket". Just look at how Babar Azam did the trick for Pakistan. He got his 50s on a strike rate of around 110-120. Nothing "explosive" Yet it got them to a decent total in each game. I mean if you look at the wickets of Chris Lyin and Maxwell in yesterday's match they all got out trying to clear the boundary when it wasn't required. I mean how hard is to rotate the strike? Teams like Austrailia are known for their strike rotation and yet they failed to do it in this series...

Yes sorry, I was meant to say not huge lol sometimes I type too fast and leave out words.

WOW! what an innings by India with Rohit Sharma putting on a show scoring 162 runs, that was an amazing innings by him. This time it wasn't Kohli scoring all the runs as Ambati Rayudu also scored a century to set up India's huge total which was going to be tough for the WI to chase down which proved to be the case as they lost by 224 runs. Can the WI bounce back in game 5 to make the series a tie or will India dominate again?
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October 29, 2018, 09:41:32 AM
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Again the total Pakistan posted was huge

You are kidding, right? I never knew a total of 150 was considered a "Huge" target in the t20 format. It's a below average total if you ask me.

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Australia were in the match but once again their batting let them down.

Except for the first over of Imad Wasim, they were never "in-game". I mean if you look the teams on paper, Austrailia had a squad which could chase down totals of 180+ easily. They had the "explosive" batsmen in their line-up but the only problem with them in this series was that they didn't play "smart cricket". Just look at how Babar Azam did the trick for Pakistan. He got his 50s on a strike rate of around 110-120. Nothing "explosive" Yet it got them to a decent total in each game. I mean if you look at the wickets of Chris Lyin and Maxwell in yesterday's match they all got out trying to clear the boundary when it wasn't required. I mean how hard is to rotate the strike? Teams like Austrailia are known for their strike rotation and yet they failed to do it in this series...
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October 29, 2018, 07:56:57 AM
Would love to see another close match, Pitch looks like a graveyard for bowlers lol. Now its all up to Windies batsmen.

After a good start from West Indies, 3 wickets in 6 balls, bhuvneshwar took 2 wickets and bumrah 1 wickets in this 6 balls, it is a big blow and now it looks hard for WI to win, now let see with how many runs they are going to lose them the match. If India wins today then they will be in 2-1 ration and last match will become more interesting.
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October 29, 2018, 07:02:28 AM
Would love to see another close match, Pitch looks like a graveyard for bowlers lol. Now its all up to Windies batsmen.
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