The group phase of 2023 ACC Men's Challenger Cup is now complete. 4 teams have qualified for the semi-finals: first match will be between Bhutan and Saudi Arabia, while the second one will be between Bahrain and Thailand. The two gulf nations will have the advantage as they are entirely comprised of foreign players with first-class experience. Bhutan has a 100% native squad, while Thailand is also majority native. A total of 8 teams participated in this tournament, including Iran, Maldives, Indonesia and Myanmar.
The two finalists from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup (where a total of 10 teams take part). Winner from the Premier Cup will qualify for the Asia Cup, which will be held later this year in Pakistan.
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I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.
Indian selectors do have a problem in dropping non-performing players. KL Rahul was sustained within the team for too long, at the cost of other talented young players. Cheteshwar Pujara is still in the team, despite not performing for almost 3 years in a row. Hardick Pandya was given a guaranteed slot in the team for almost three years, before he came back to form. And the woke brigade led by Kohli and Rohit have a preference for bowlers like Arshdeep Singh, Siraj and Umran, who are always preferred for selection ahead of Natarajan and Kuldeep Sen. So how about this? The players who are currently performing well will be able to play in the main team. And those players who are not currently performing well are going to play in another team which is not going to take part in serious competitions.
What I am trying to say is suppose there is a tri-nation series going on between India, Australia, and New Zealand. Those players who are performing well are going to play in this tournament.
And suppose at the same time India will have a series against Ireland. Those players who are not in form can perform against Ireland to grow confidence. And in this way, India will be able to play multiple series at the same time as well.
I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.
Indian selectors do have a problem in dropping non-performing players. KL Rahul was sustained within the team for too long, at the cost of other talented young players. Cheteshwar Pujara is still in the team, despite not performing for almost 3 years in a row. Hardick Pandya was given a guaranteed slot in the team for almost three years, before he came back to form. And the woke brigade led by Kohli and Rohit have a preference for bowlers like Arshdeep Singh, Siraj and Umran, who are always preferred for selection ahead of Natarajan and Kuldeep Sen.
How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.
Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.
I believe that BCCI is also working on this, but it’s difficult to do this in India because there’re so many talented player’s and it becomes difficult to drop someone out of the team. Also the Indian team fans will rebel a lot if their favourite player will be left out, hence I can understand why BCCI is not yet having totally separate squads for all the three formats.
ICC clearly knows that teams like UAE, Oman are purely made up of players from India and Pakistan but they are not bother about that. Its heartbreaking to see teams like Nepal not getting due share from ICC rather boards like BCCI are getting bigger piece of cake. The Big 3 model actually don't want to see new teams coming into cricket ecosystem that's best in there interest. If ICC was interested in expanding cricket to new regions then by now Nepal would be a test team.
The reason why the BCCI prefers teams like UAE and Oman are well known. Because they always side with the pig-4 during voting. Teams like Nepal, Scotland and Namibia are very vocal about the poor treatment that is meted out to them and therefore have cold relations with the pig-4.
After that comes the funding part. Sometimes I feel like ICC does not even care about the associate nations. Because the funding was going to be very different for the associate nations. Nepal has a lot of talented players. My personal opinion is that ICC can increase the funding for them. But then they will have to increase funding for all the associate nations.
The problem is that under current system teams with 100% foreign players are allocated a higher share of the funds (examples are United States of America, United Arab Emirates and Oman), and teams with native players have witnessed their funds going down with each passing year. In order to resolve this issue, the eligibility criteria needs to be changed. There should be a requirement that a majority of the players representing the national team should be citizens of that country. This sham scenario of foreigners arriving in tourist visa and then representing countries to which they have no connection should be avoided.
An example here. The so called "national team" from Czech Republic comprised of a bunch of tourists and medical students from India and Pakistan. Looks very "Czech" for me:
How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.
Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.
I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.
Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.
I am also in favor of this system as every board needs to have two teams with one for the WHITEBALL and second for the REDBALL, but sadly this is not affordable for the all boards as mostly have no luxury like India and England about their finances and this all needs good funds and other many things as well which are not easy job specially while ICC is on verge of cutting funding for many countries as India is want big share of the media rights due to ICC having good profit from their market.Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.
With this all most of the things are useless because ICC has never been having any positive interest into this game as they are just having their deep pockets which needs funding, and they just want to have things in their favor which is clearly killing spirit of the game, and we are losing some positive things even right now still cricket is having strong fan base which is good thing, but now it's time for the ICC to act positively and bring few good changes and increase funding of associate countries as well for the better future of this game.
How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
I think the idea of having a different squad or multiple squads is actually very good. Especially for those teams which does have a lot of players. We know that the top teams like India, England, and Australia does have a lot of player waiting for a chance to play. If they have multiple squads, a lot of young players will be able to get the chance of playing and a lot of young talents will also come forward.
Another thing is, having multiple squads is also going to ensure that one country is being able to play in multiple tournaments and also against multiple countries at the same time.
Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.
And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.
And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.
The problem is that Nepal is not getting to play regularly. And if they are not playing regularly, they will not be able to perform well when it comes to showing people that they can win against bigger opponents. ICC generally does not have too much time allotted for associate nations in 1 calendar year. And I think the lack of play is eventually degrading the performance of the associate nations.
After that comes the funding part. Sometimes I feel like ICC does not even care about the associate nations. Because the funding was going to be very different for the associate nations. Nepal has a lot of talented players. My personal opinion is that ICC can increase the funding for them. But then they will have to increase funding for all the associate nations.
Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.
And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.
And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.
ICC clearly knows that teams like UAE, Oman are purely made up of players from India and Pakistan but they are not bother about that. Its heartbreaking to see teams like Nepal not getting due share from ICC rather boards like BCCI are getting bigger piece of cake. The Big 3 model actually don't want to see new teams coming into cricket ecosystem that's best in there interest. If ICC was interested in expanding cricket to new regions then by now Nepal would be a test team.
How many teams have got different squad for test and other formats of cricket. Yesterday England team played test match against New Zealand and lost it. Today England team have played against Bangladesh and won the match. This is good, because more players get opportunity to play for the country than just the same team playing every format of cricket.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
India can try this kind of different squad for different format of cricket. BCCI have categorised the players on some category and have different salary slab.
Afghanistan, Netherlands and Ireland may soon be joined by teams like Nepal. Those who are not yet aware of Nepal cricket can find a good change if they watch their match. I find Nepal more reliable than other teams like Namibia, Papua New Guinea, United Arab Emirates and some others. Winning 5 matches consistently has boosted their confidence and they have also been appreciated internationally.
Doubtful about Nepal. Their cricket has been on a downward slide ever since 2015. And the reason is very clear. Back in 2015, the ICC reduced funding for the associates by as much as 80%. It didn't had an impact on "rich" boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, but the "poorer" boards such as Nepal were severely impacted. On top of that the ICC implemented a performance based funding system. Teams like the United Arab Emirates immediately recruited former first class players from India and Pakistan. Nepal couldn't afford to do that and they started losing matches. So this 80% decrease became 90% for them.
And I don't have much hope for the next (2024-31) funding cycle as well. The BCCI is demanding a higher share from the ICC, and this may result in further reductions to the associates. On top of that, the BCCI has formed a cabal with middle-east boards such as the United Arab Emirates and Oman, and they are trying to weaken the other associate nations.
Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
Bhutan versus Iran match was not very interesting. To be honest, neither of the team was able to bat well. First of all, Iran was all out for only 150. And they have played more than 48 overs for getting the 150. Eventually, they lost all wickets. And I thought Bhutan was going to be able to win this match because the target is not very big at all. But put on, to my surprise was actually all out for 100.
Bahrain versus Maldives match was not even interesting. Bahrain put on a staggering 382. And the Maldives could not even get close to that. Maldives was all out for only 88.
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All these teams are just starting their journey. It takes time for them to give the standard performance same as what we see with the leading teams. From this position only teams like Afghanistan, Netherlands, Ireland have reached the current position. So, those teams need time as well as the support from the ICC. Maybe after years these teams can be highly competing.It will take time and money for all these teams to be competitive. But they are not going to be competitive if they do not playing regularly and consistently. They are not being able to play regularly and that is obviously not good for them if they are trying to improve.
There is no doubt about this all now we have too many countries are involved in this game and things are turning in good way for better future but here I have one concern now we need to stop this 50 overs drama because this is never been ideal format for the new countries mostly needs to work on only twenty/20 because this is future, and we can bring good things for many countries with this fast game and quick results for them.
Countries like Iran and Thailand surely can do good but as we all know Saudi Arab and Bahrain can't bring native players which is also matter of concern for the authorities in cricket they need to go with stick policy and fair rules for all countries which are going to participate in ICC related events here I am feeling good for the SAARC countries as now we have all seven countries in this game even few are weak but still good for these all seven countries.
Countries like Iran and Thailand surely can do good but as we all know Saudi Arab and Bahrain can't bring native players which is also matter of concern for the authorities in cricket they need to go with stick policy and fair rules for all countries which are going to participate in ICC related events here I am feeling good for the SAARC countries as now we have all seven countries in this game even few are weak but still good for these all seven countries.
I think ICC should stop funding the teams which are not trying to improve by bringing in native players. Because what's the point? They are not going to improve by bringing in foreign players anyway.
It is true. If they do that, cricket will be absolutely removed from certain countries. But what's the point? Just keeping them so that they play cricket from a business standpoint?
Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
There is no doubt about this all now we have too many countries are involved in this game and things are turning in good way for better future but here I have one concern now we need to stop this 50 overs drama because this is never been ideal format for the new countries mostly needs to work on only twenty/20 because this is future, and we can bring good things for many countries with this fast game and quick results for them.https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
Countries like Iran and Thailand surely can do good but as we all know Saudi Arab and Bahrain can't bring native players which is also matter of concern for the authorities in cricket they need to go with stick policy and fair rules for all countries which are going to participate in ICC related events here I am feeling good for the SAARC countries as now we have all seven countries in this game even few are weak but still good for these all seven countries.
Another thing, native player controversy continues forever. Even with the top teams we've got players born in other countries and playing for a different country. When someone doesn't gets recognised in the home country they look for opportunities and when some other country is ready to give chance it is obvious to accept.
Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
There is no doubt about this all now we have too many countries are involved in this game and things are turning in good way for better future but here I have one concern now we need to stop this 50 overs drama because this is never been ideal format for the new countries mostly needs to work on only twenty/20 because this is future, and we can bring good things for many countries with this fast game and quick results for them.https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
Countries like Iran and Thailand surely can do good but as we all know Saudi Arab and Bahrain can't bring native players which is also matter of concern for the authorities in cricket they need to go with stick policy and fair rules for all countries which are going to participate in ICC related events here I am feeling good for the SAARC countries as now we have all seven countries in this game even few are weak but still good for these all seven countries.
Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
Bhutan versus Iran match was not very interesting. To be honest, neither of the team was able to bat well. First of all, Iran was all out for only 150. And they have played more than 48 overs for getting the 150. Eventually, they lost all wickets. And I thought Bhutan was going to be able to win this match because the target is not very big at all. But put on, to my surprise was actually all out for 100.
Bahrain versus Maldives match was not even interesting. Bahrain put on a staggering 382. And the Maldives could not even get close to that. Maldives was all out for only 88.
Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV
A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.
So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.
Bhutan versus Iran match was not very interesting. To be honest, neither of the team was able to bat well. First of all, Iran was all out for only 150. And they have played more than 48 overs for getting the 150. Eventually, they lost all wickets. And I thought Bhutan was going to be able to win this match because the target is not very big at all. But put on, to my surprise was actually all out for 100.
Bahrain versus Maldives match was not even interesting. Bahrain put on a staggering 382. And the Maldives could not even get close to that. Maldives was all out for only 88.
The IPL popularity have made them have such thoughts. After IPL cricket have gained more importance around the world, even if they don't watch cricket there are people who prefer betting on it. Because, they find it as easy way to predict or go with the odds suggested by the platform than predicting the outcome of a soccer match.
The same is being used as an opportunity by the scammers and they tried to make use of the chance conducting matches. Anyhow the scam is identified earlier, if not more such leagues would've taken place by now. This is really bad for a nation that have the strong team for cricket. If you see the pitch it'll be much more funny than the incident.
The same is being used as an opportunity by the scammers and they tried to make use of the chance conducting matches. Anyhow the scam is identified earlier, if not more such leagues would've taken place by now. This is really bad for a nation that have the strong team for cricket. If you see the pitch it'll be much more funny than the incident.
We all know that there are a lot of scams going on in the name of legal things. That is what scammers tried. I honestly think it was going to hurt India as a cricket playing nation if people got scammed for a huge amount of money. At least that did not happen. Actually, I want to look at the positive side of this. It could easily have been another story like- Scammers are actually getting a huge amount of money from this and people are not talking about it (who got scammed) because they do not want to make a full out of themselves by saying that in public.
The scam culture is huge in certain parts of the world, and the SEA region is one of them in my opinion.
Match fixing is always going to happen in smaller tournaments. It causes a lot of problems, especially in those tournaments where rules and regulations are not kept a close eye upon. Even in bigger countries, match fixing does happen. But it does not happen in big tournaments.
Basically, it does not happen in tournaments which people follow regularly and a lot of people watch live. But in almost all domestic cricket in every country, match fixing exists.
With the many franchise leagues and other small leagues things are looking good for these mafias and other gamblers even surely their profit is going to be less, but they are also doing good things in big leagues as well which are happening with the help of many big names which are giving them access to manage things for themselves even still now profit is going down, but they are happy as they can bring things for their own which is big success for them.Basically, it does not happen in tournaments which people follow regularly and a lot of people watch live. But in almost all domestic cricket in every country, match fixing exists.
In soccer, we have also many things like these which are happening but no one caring as mostly matches are under fair play policy and here I have to be agreed with few members about this is not stoppable, but official can manage thing with tough punishments if they have any player or official involved in this all same happening in cricket where punishments and restrictions can bring better play and results.
Match fixing is honestly everywhere. I believe most of them are not getting in the open and in front of people's eyes. And the people who are doing the match fixing, generally does a very good work of covering things up even if they do get in trouble.
So the next time you see 2 runs not being able to be scored in 10 balls, you know what's going on. And of course everyone is going to try to show that there is no fixing going on, even if there is. Because that is only going to make them look bad. And there are enough powerful people to look out for the bookies.
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