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Quote from: n0ne on February 25, 2023, 10:53:26 AM

Match fixing is getting to be common with the small leagues. With big leagues we can't find that easily same as that people identify the fixed matches. Different countries have got different games popular and most of these popular games will be preferred by them. Last year fake IPL is being conducted in a state of India to scam Russian gamblers. This shows gambling scams and fixed matches are getting to be more common and the boards only can make changes to this.

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Basically some leagues are built around fixing activities. At this time most gamblers conduct gambling with the possibility of match fixing. This is not only the case with the small leagues but also with franchise based leagues. Again, many of the gamblers think that there can be such a picture in many international matches except for some countries. But i have a different opinion on international matches, i agree that fixing is a common thing in small or big leagues. Definitely not all sports should be suspected of fixing. Cricket Boards as well as ICC are closely monitoring due to such allegations in recent times. Their laws have been amended and made more stringent but still this kind of fixing cannot be stopped.

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Anyone watching the ACC Men’s Challenger Cup? All the matches are being broadcasted live on ACC official YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/@AsianCricketCouncilTV

A total of 8 teams are participating, and the top 2 teams from this tournament will qualify for the 2023 ACC Men's Premier Cup. The winner from the second competition will quality for the 2023 Asia Cup to play along with the 5 test nations from Asia.

So far, Maldives and Bahrain have won one match each in Group A, while Saudi Arabia and Thailand are in a similar position with Group B. Right now, the Bhutan vs Iran and Bahrain vs Maldives matches are going on.

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Quote from: Ayers on February 25, 2023, 12:04:20 PM

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Quote from: n0ne on February 25, 2023, 10:53:26 AM

Match fixing is getting to be common with the small leagues. With big leagues we can't find that easily same as that people identify the fixed matches. Different countries have got different games popular and most of these popular games will be preferred by them. Last year fake IPL is being conducted in a state of India to scam Russian gamblers. This shows gambling scams and fixed matches are getting to be more common and the boards only can make changes to this.
Group in India Allegedly Set Up Fake Cricket League to Scam Russian Gamblers

Haha this is old news but indeed a very funny story.
They even hired a Harsha Bhogle impersonator for a commentary gig. A fair amount of cricketers and Harsha himself reacted to this scam, poor Russians punters Grin

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I don't understand why people are laughing towards the Russians. Well, actually I do understand why, because men cannot be dumb in this world. And the Russians were dumb. Not doing any research.

But in the long run, I say it is bad for India and also cricket as a whole. Because I don't believe Russia is a country interested in cricket. So even if through gambling some people were showing interest, now probably that is not going to happen as well.

The IPL popularity have made them have such thoughts. After IPL cricket have gained more importance around the world, even if they don't watch cricket there are people who prefer betting on it. Because, they find it as easy way to predict or go with the odds suggested by the platform than predicting the outcome of a soccer match.

The same is being used as an opportunity by the scammers and they tried to make use of the chance conducting matches. Anyhow the scam is identified earlier, if not more such leagues would've taken place by now. This is really bad for a nation that have the strong team for cricket. If you see the pitch it'll be much more funny than the incident.

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Quote from: DanWalker on February 25, 2023, 10:08:12 AM

Match fixing is always going to happen in smaller tournaments. It causes a lot of problems, especially in those tournaments where rules and regulations are not kept a close eye upon. Even in bigger countries, match fixing does happen. But it does not happen in big tournaments.

Basically, it does not happen in tournaments which people follow regularly and a lot of people watch live. But in almost all domestic cricket in every country, match fixing exists.

With the many franchise leagues and other small leagues things are looking good for these mafias and other gamblers even surely their profit is going to be less, but they are also doing good things in big leagues as well which are happening with the help of many big names which are giving them access to manage things for themselves even still now profit is going down, but they are happy as they can bring things for their own which is big success for them.

In soccer, we have also many things like these which are happening but no one caring as mostly matches are under fair play policy and here I have to be agreed with few members about this is not stoppable, but official can manage thing with tough punishments if they have any player or official involved in this all same happening in cricket where punishments and restrictions can bring better play and results.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2023, 11:09:52 AM

Quote from: n0ne on February 25, 2023, 10:53:26 AM

Match fixing is getting to be common with the small leagues. With big leagues we can't find that easily same as that people identify the fixed matches. Different countries have got different games popular and most of these popular games will be preferred by them. Last year fake IPL is being conducted in a state of India to scam Russian gamblers. This shows gambling scams and fixed matches are getting to be more common and the boards only can make changes to this.
Group in India Allegedly Set Up Fake Cricket League to Scam Russian Gamblers

Haha this is old news but indeed a very funny story.
They even hired a Harsha Bhogle impersonator for a commentary gig. A fair amount of cricketers and Harsha himself reacted to this scam, poor Russians punters Grin

.

I don't understand why people are laughing towards the Russians. Well, actually I do understand why, because men cannot be dumb in this world. And the Russians were dumb. Not doing any research.

But in the long run, I say it is bad for India and also cricket as a whole. Because I don't believe Russia is a country interested in cricket. So even if through gambling some people were showing interest, now probably that is not going to happen as well.

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Quote from: n0ne on February 25, 2023, 10:53:26 AM

Match fixing is getting to be common with the small leagues. With big leagues we can't find that easily same as that people identify the fixed matches. Different countries have got different games popular and most of these popular games will be preferred by them. Last year fake IPL is being conducted in a state of India to scam Russian gamblers. This shows gambling scams and fixed matches are getting to be more common and the boards only can make changes to this.

Group in India Allegedly Set Up Fake Cricket League to Scam Russian Gamblers

Haha this is old news but indeed a very funny story.

They even hired a Harsha Bhogle impersonator for a commentary gig. A fair amount of cricketers and Harsha himself reacted to this scam, poor Russians punters Grin

.

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Match fixing is getting to be common with the small leagues. With big leagues we can't find that easily same as that people identify the fixed matches. Different countries have got different games popular and most of these popular games will be preferred by them. Last year fake IPL is being conducted in a state of India to scam Russian gamblers. This shows gambling scams and fixed matches are getting to be more common and the boards only can make changes to this.

Group in India Allegedly Set Up Fake Cricket League to Scam Russian Gamblers

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 25, 2023, 07:56:33 AM

Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2023, 07:29:34 AM

True, that's exactly the case for the bookies. @eality mentioned that now they target smaller leagues and it makes sense to go for European, and Caribbean type of leagues as ICC anti-corruption unit hardly take any notice over there.
Even Women's cricket makes some sense but in the context of smaller teams.

Yeah. The worst thing about all of this is that casual bettors like me cannot place bets on these lower level leagues because sportsbooks find out about these fixing issues and they end up not adding those markets.
This is the case with other sports too(Volleyball, Handball, Football etc).

Match fixing is always going to happen in smaller tournaments. It causes a lot of problems, especially in those tournaments where rules and regulations are not kept a close eye upon. Even in bigger countries, match fixing does happen. But it does not happen in big tournaments.

Basically, it does not happen in tournaments which people follow regularly and a lot of people watch live. But in almost all domestic cricket in every country, match fixing exists.

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Quote from: JSRAW on February 25, 2023, 07:29:34 AM

True, that's exactly the case for the bookies. @eality mentioned that now they target smaller leagues and it makes sense to go for European, and Caribbean type of leagues as ICC anti-corruption unit hardly take any notice over there.

Even Women's cricket makes some sense but in the context of smaller teams.

Yeah. The worst thing about all of this is that casual bettors like me cannot place bets on these lower level leagues because sportsbooks find out about these fixing issues and they end up not adding those markets.

This is the case with other sports too(Volleyball, Handball, Football etc).

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 24, 2023, 09:36:06 AM

Quote from: n0ne on February 23, 2023, 04:05:18 PM

Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.

Nil? I disagree. Mafia gangs are still fixing certain bets in matches across different formats though their profits have definitely decreased over time due to their methods getting exposed to the public.

I don't think match fixing will ever completely go away, but I hope it continues decreasing over time in all sports.

True, that's exactly the case for the bookies. @eality mentioned that now they target smaller leagues and it makes sense to go for European, and Caribbean type of leagues as ICC anti-corruption unit hardly take any notice over there.

Even Women's cricket makes some sense but in the context of smaller teams.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 23, 2023, 01:45:59 PM

Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

There will always be players who will be interested in match fixing no matter what. It's about the thrill that they get from match fixing which they generally don't get anywhere else. But of course, a rational-thinking player, he is not going to jeopardize his career just because of some money. Especially when he knows that they are can be a big penalty for this as well

Quote from: Sithara007 on February 23, 2023, 08:31:26 PM

You never know. Back in 2013, two of the franchise owners themselves were getting involved in betting. And they bet in matches involving their respective teams. Now what is the guarantee that there will be no pressure on the players to underperform, so that the management can earn some profits through gambling? The BCCI swept this issue under the carpet, because one of the accused was the son-in-law of mafia don N Srinivasan and back then the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia had complete control of the BCCI.

For those people, it is not like they have a lot of money but they still want more. So if we think money is going to stop match fixing but I believe we would be wrong. But match fixing has also been reduced a lot. Making gambling legal is a good idea. Actually speaking is a good idea if done correctly.

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Quote from: Haunebu on February 24, 2023, 09:36:06 AM

Quote from: n0ne on February 23, 2023, 04:05:18 PM

Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.

Nil? I disagree. Mafia gangs are still fixing certain bets in matches across different formats though their profits have definitely decreased over time due to their methods getting exposed to the public.

I don't think match fixing will ever completely go away, but I hope it continues decreasing over time in all sports.

On this I would agree that match fixing will never end completely and is not possible as per the current situation. Usually when we get information about match fixing we are very concerned about it. Otherwise no one can give any assurance that such fixed matches are not being organized in many unknown matches around the world. Various betting companies are currently engaged in various malpractices including match fixing. As greed is an important factor in human natural religion that is difficult to control, match fixing is also a common factor that cannot be controlled.

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Quote from: n0ne on February 23, 2023, 04:05:18 PM

Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.

Nil? I disagree. Mafia gangs are still fixing certain bets in matches across different formats though their profits have definitely decreased over time due to their methods getting exposed to the public.

I don't think match fixing will ever completely go away, but I hope it continues decreasing over time in all sports.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 23, 2023, 01:45:59 PM

Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

You never know. Back in 2013, two of the franchise owners themselves were getting involved in betting. And they bet in matches involving their respective teams. Now what is the guarantee that there will be no pressure on the players to underperform, so that the management can earn some profits through gambling? The BCCI swept this issue under the carpet, because one of the accused was the son-in-law of mafia don N Srinivasan and back then the Srinivasan-Pawar mafia had complete control of the BCCI.

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Quote from: |MINER| on February 23, 2023, 03:56:42 PM

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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.

Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

I would like to agree with you in this point that match fixing is unlikely in most international leagues. Because in the past days it has been seen that many players have been involved in it which has ruined their careers. But I also don't think match fixing has gone away completely, it still exists but much less than before. But monitoring the players can save the team from this situation

Match fixing is almost Nil in my view. Because of the punishment given to the players caught into match fixing have made the cricketers not to think of it. Even in the lower leagues it is very low, because every team wants to reach the next level. Losing matches for money would surely downline the team and the same could affect players. Even now there are ball tampering and other tricks followed, which isn't easily found.

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Quote from: eaLiTy on February 23, 2023, 01:45:59 PM

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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.

Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

I would like to agree with you in this point that match fixing is unlikely in most international leagues. Because in the past days it has been seen that many players have been involved in it which has ruined their careers. But I also don't think match fixing has gone away completely, it still exists but much less than before. But monitoring the players can save the team from this situation

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Quote from: kro55 on February 23, 2023, 08:35:50 AM

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There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.

Match fixing is possible in lower leagues but in the top leagues where the players earn huge compensation, it is highly unlikely that players would be willing to risk their career for some pocket change because once you are caught you get a blanket ban on competing again. In Cricket we saw some scandals in the past and all of those players were banned and with the money involved right now, none of the players would risk that and jeopardize their career.

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Quote from: Sithara007 on February 23, 2023, 05:42:29 AM

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I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.
In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

When you ban something, actually there will be an urge to indulge in it. We all remember the IPL betting scandal that happened way back in 2013. Sreesanth, Ajit Chandila and Ankeet Chavan were arrested back then. And then two of the franchise owners (Gurunath Meiyappan from Chennai Super Kings and Raj Kundra from Rajasthan Royals) were found guilty of association with bookies. These incidents came to light by chance. 99% of the time, these activities never get revealed. Gambling is a big curse on cricket, and things are not going to change anytime soon.

I understand that gambling is a curse and it is not going to change anytime soon. But at the same time, if it is banned, people will try to actually do it illegally. That is going to cause a lot more problems compared to if betting is actually legal. And there are a lot of illegal things going on almost everywhere. And I absolutely agree with you that most of them does not even come to light. Actually, I cannot take any sides here. Because we live in a time when gambling is not going to stop. And as long as gambling is there, there will be certain types of illegal things happening. Doesn't matter if gambling is legal or illegal.

Quote from: YinShuiSiYuan on February 23, 2023, 07:04:02 AM

Betting can be legalised but match fixing is something different , those who are addicted to cricket are automatically addicted to gambling and betting so no use of stopping that because whatever the laws are people will indulge in this activity which is their hobby.
Match fixing should be checked as that's unfair for teams.

There is a very high chance of betting being made illegal, match fixing will increase. Because the bookies are not going to be able to find the money legally that they got from betting. So they are going to push toward match fixing.
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Quote from: kro55 on February 22, 2023, 02:07:34 PM

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Quote from: BobK71 on February 22, 2023, 06:08:30 AM

Some gamblers thought that match fixing may be reduced in the near future but I think it is unlikely. It will continue as it is and gamblers will have to manage their gambling through it. Those involved in match-fixing are not ordinary gamblers and will not associate with ordinary people. Moreover, those who engage in activities such as fixing match usually do so in association with the help of sportsbooks.

If some stupid politician or administrator thinks that he can ban things such as gambling, porn and prostitution, then he is completely out of touch with the reality. These services have existed since time immemorial. The only viable way to move forward with sports gambling is to completely legalize it. If you criminalize sports gambling, then you are pushing it underground and increasing the involvement of the criminals. If gambling is completely legal, then incidents of match fixing will go down substantially.

I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.

In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

Betting can be legalised but match fixing is something different , those who are addicted to cricket are automatically addicted to gambling and betting so no use of stopping that because whatever the laws are people will indulge in this activity which is their hobby.
Match fixing should be checked as that's unfair for teams.

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Quote from: kro55 on February 22, 2023, 02:07:34 PM

I actually agree with Sithara007 that betting might actually reduce the chance of match fixing. Because the bookies are getting the money and the kick out of betting already. But the thing is I think neither option is going to be 100% safe. Removing the option to place a bet might inspire people to try match fixing. But that is something that can also be done with the presence of legal betting. Even if gambling is legal, there will be a certain set of hierarchy.

In the current modern world, it is almost impossible to remove batting or gambling. So the best thing is going to be making it legal and trying to exploit the positives of it.

When you ban something, actually there will be an urge to indulge in it. We all remember the IPL betting scandal that happened way back in 2013. Sreesanth, Ajit Chandila and Ankeet Chavan were arrested back then. And then two of the franchise owners (Gurunath Meiyappan from Chennai Super Kings and Raj Kundra from Rajasthan Royals) were found guilty of association with bookies. These incidents came to light by chance. 99% of the time, these activities never get revealed. Gambling is a big curse on cricket, and things are not going to change anytime soon.

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