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Quote from: Bedebah on July 10, 2017, 12:40:31 PM

Criminals will always be there, before any money, criminals are rife, criminals can not be stopped while there is life, don't blame bitcoin if criminals use bitcoin for transactions.

I agree with you because criminals will always be there anywhere so this is not one of the bitcoin of crime.

The criminals were before bitcoin and will be after bitcoin. They will always be regardless of the crypto currency. There is no correlation between criminal and crypto currency

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Quote from: Bedebah on July 10, 2017, 12:40:31 PM

Criminals will always be there, before any money, criminals are rife, criminals can not be stopped while there is life, don't blame bitcoin if criminals use bitcoin for transactions.

I agree with you because criminals will always be there anywhere so this is not one of the bitcoin of crime.

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Bitcoin was not so clean in the first days of the day, nobody can deny it, but it is now being used for good purposes, and Blockchain technology is being explored for use by many countries.

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Quote from: ladydark on July 24, 2017, 02:03:12 AM

Bitcoin has nothing to do with increase in criminality ratio.Criminality existed even before bitcoin was created and it would even exist in future if bitcoin disappears.Even if criminals want to use crypto currencies and hide their identity,they would go with mo nero or zcash which are fully anonymous and would not use bitcoins since bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.Bitcoin transactions could be easily traced unless sevices liking mixing bitcons is used.

Still there are huge amount of people troll the bitcoin and it is been used for illegal activities. I hope bitcoin is not a only source to use it for illegal uses. Even via paypal also they are doing transaction for these kind of purposes. If the bitcoin address revealed that they can back track via bitcoin address so no need to worry about it.

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Yes, I'm a little suspicious. But not entirely. Because I do not think that Bitcoin has increased the crime numbers in some countries in the world. But I know that criminal activity is happening even before Bitcoin.
Criminal activities are happening all over the world, it's done every day in our world.

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Quote from: Bagaji on July 24, 2017, 12:39:35 PM

The is no doubt about the fact that criminal activities could be linked to every other currency not just bitcoin alone. And I don't agree with your submission that bitcoin has led to the increase in criminal activities or cyber crime. All criminal activities has been in existence and on the high level before the introduction of Bitcoin.

I agree with you. Cybercriminals have always been and will be regardless of whether there will remain in the future crypto currency or not. Similarly, for any criminal purposes, you can use any currency. Bitcoin has no role here

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The is no doubt about the fact that criminal activities could be linked to every other currency not just bitcoin alone. And I don't agree with your submission that bitcoin has led to the increase in criminal activities or cyber crime. All criminal activities has been in existence and on the high level before the introduction of Bitcoin.

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Quote from: ladydark on July 24, 2017, 02:03:12 AM

Bitcoin has nothing to do with increase in criminality ratio.Criminality existed even before bitcoin was created and it would even exist in future if bitcoin disappears.Even if criminals want to use crypto currencies and hide their identity,they would go with mo nero or zcash which are fully anonymous and would not use bitcoins since bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.Bitcoin transactions could be easily traced unless sevices liking mixing bitcons is used.

spot on! criimnalities are already in existence even before the creation of bitcoins. Hence, criminals can get away with using either fiat money or cryptocurrencies like bitcoin, monero, and more coins. Bitcoin, just like fiat money, has really no control over the mind hold it.

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Bitcoin has nothing to do with increase in criminality ratio.Criminality existed even before bitcoin was created and it would even exist in future if bitcoin disappears.Even if criminals want to use crypto currencies and hide their identity,they would go with mo nero or zcash which are fully anonymous and would not use bitcoins since bitcoin is pseudo anonymous.Bitcoin transactions could be easily traced unless sevices liking mixing bitcons is used.

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Quote from: Lyancy001 on July 21, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

Where ever you are, what ever you do, criminals are everywhere. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that, somehow. But I confess that some criminals do use Bitcoin for something that's not good.

Right. We cant do anything if others want to spend their bitcoins their. If they doesnt want to spend it for good. It is true many criminals now are using bitcoin as money. Bitcoin might have wrong image because of that.

Criminals is using bitcoin for illegal means. That's why most of the time bitcoin is been tag with criminality and thus giving a wrong image for the government. However, criminals will do anything even without bitcoin technology. Is that they have found a way to take advantage of bitcoin technology and used it for their crimes. But least not forgot, even with fiat, crimes are still committed. So bitcoin has nothing to do with criminality. Crimes will happened everywhere without the name of bitcoin in it.

so we need to explain to other people that bitcoin is not for criminality because bitcoin is a new technology with many benefits they can use. bitcoin itself is not related with criminality and its only depend with us what we want to use bitcoin. i think if we explain about the bitcoin benefit to them, i am sure that people will only use bitcoin for good purpose and they will support bitcoin with many good ways.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-lagest-bitcoin-mixer-is-about-to-stop-working-2042470

Maybe thats thread could slightly improve the current bitcoin image, in addition to being used for illegal transactions, bitcoin can also be washed without being tracked. The nature of decentralized makes the criminal factor capable of running without the rule of law of a centralized system.

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Quote from: btc_angela on July 23, 2017, 07:42:31 PM

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Quote from: Lyancy001 on July 21, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

Where ever you are, what ever you do, criminals are everywhere. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that, somehow. But I confess that some criminals do use Bitcoin for something that's not good.

Right. We cant do anything if others want to spend their bitcoins their. If they doesnt want to spend it for good. It is true many criminals now are using bitcoin as money. Bitcoin might have wrong image because of that.

Criminals is using bitcoin for illegal means. That's why most of the time bitcoin is been tag with criminality and thus giving a wrong image for the government. However, criminals will do anything even without bitcoin technology. Is that they have found a way to take advantage of bitcoin technology and used it for their crimes. But least not forgot, even with fiat, crimes are still committed. So bitcoin has nothing to do with criminality. Crimes will happened everywhere without the name of bitcoin in it.

so we need to explain to other people that bitcoin is not for criminality because bitcoin is a new technology with many benefits they can use. bitcoin itself is not related with criminality and its only depend with us what we want to use bitcoin. i think if we explain about the bitcoin benefit to them, i am sure that people will only use bitcoin for good purpose and they will support bitcoin with many good ways.

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Quote from: ice098 on July 23, 2017, 06:00:49 PM

Quote from: Lyancy001 on July 21, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

Where ever you are, what ever you do, criminals are everywhere. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that, somehow. But I confess that some criminals do use Bitcoin for something that's not good.

Right. We cant do anything if others want to spend their bitcoins their. If they doesnt want to spend it for good. It is true many criminals now are using bitcoin as money. Bitcoin might have wrong image because of that.

Criminals is using bitcoin for illegal means. That's why most of the time bitcoin is been tag with criminality and thus giving a wrong image for the government. However, criminals will do anything even without bitcoin technology. Is that they have found a way to take advantage of bitcoin technology and used it for their crimes. But least not forgot, even with fiat, crimes are still committed. So bitcoin has nothing to do with criminality. Crimes will happened everywhere without the name of bitcoin in it.

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Quote from: Lyancy001 on July 21, 2017, 10:11:36 AM

Where ever you are, what ever you do, criminals are everywhere. Bitcoin has nothing to do with that, somehow. But I confess that some criminals do use Bitcoin for something that's not good.

Right. We cant do anything if others want to spend their bitcoins their. If they doesnt want to spend it for good. It is true many criminals now are using bitcoin as money. Bitcoin might have wrong image because of that.

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With the collapse of the two most prominent deepweb distribution portals going down in the past three weeks.
It is safe to say that bitcoin isn't the route cause of the individuals who use it for their own purpose in those cases.
It is a just a vessel for the cause of them to exchange their products in for a means of so to say
"Cash themselves out!" Tongue

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Are you informed people that popular mixing service has been closed because he is being pressured by the government. And he says that bitcoin has future even without dark market transactions which we know that bitcoin became popular their first and most of the people are using their service because of it. You can read their statement https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/the-lagest-bitcoin-mixer-is-about-to-stop-working-2042470

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Quote from: 8Habits on July 10, 2017, 08:08:45 PM

Quote from: mostkey on July 10, 2017, 07:24:20 PM

Bitcoin is the same as a drug, when a bitcoin user uses it well, then bitcoin will remain positive. Similarly when used in negative, bitcoin will be bad. Such as money laundering, payment of crime services and many other thing

It is normal and even in fiat money, it is being used for illegal transactions. It is the holder's responsibility as to how he/she is going to use it. But yes, bitcoin is prone to being used for more illegal transactions due to its anonymity compared to fiat money.

Surely there are many things we can do about what and how we use bitcoin, all will be exactly as we want it to be.
It's all we can control it

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Quote from: Bedebah on July 10, 2017, 12:40:31 PM

Criminals will always be there, before any money, criminals are rife, criminals can not be stopped while there is life, don't blame bitcoin if criminals use bitcoin for transactions.

That's what I'm talking about. We can't just blame it on what we invest or what we innovate. In the end we're the one who is using that technology and we're the one responsible whether we will use it on good things or in bad things. Even before the creation the bacteria is fighting for the sake of a bigger being, there are viruses and antibodies and for the sake of the human body to go on the are continuing to fight. In this world in my opinion I think humans is fighting, there are criminals and police for the sake of the bigger being ahead of us so happenings like crime is inevitable. It is in our bloods. We're just afraid to confess that's why we are blaming these on Bitcoin and etc.

Of course we have the right to choose but when it comes to the bigger picture I don't think we can all be good. In criminality and Bitcoin.

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Quote from: 8Habits on July 21, 2017, 05:43:56 AM

Quote from: jityap on July 21, 2017, 05:35:46 AM

Bitcoin is new type money.transactions can do anyone without original names,here we have chance of criminality. here sending and receiving bitcoins to anyone through the address,some one miss lead this for decentralized facility.

Some of criminals are really taking advantage of using bitcoin for their illegal activities but we should all remember that even infiat money, criminals are using it as mode of trasanctions. Both fiat and bitcoin are design for the benefit of the people and really not for criminals

yes you are right that bitcoin is being famous now and a lot of people are taking the benefits of the popularity of the bitcoin and the main reason behind the miss use of the bitcoin is that it is as secret as you want it to be so some of the criminals are able to take the disadvantage of the bitcoin but it cannot reduce the importance and the value of the bitcoin.

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Lol, if it weren't for bitcoin, it would be something else.
Criminality evolves and it would find another area to parasite on

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Quote from: Daniel91 on July 22, 2017, 08:36:22 AM

Unfortunately, it's true that criminals likes bitcoin and used it for criminal purpose.
Recently, I heard TV report in my country that police found and caught drug dealers.
They bought drugs in the dark web and paid with bitcoin.
Because of such reports, people can get very negative image about bitcoin.

yes, it is a fact
the bad side of good bitcoin using was a hole that can some people doing for criminal purpose
as money laundry, transaction drugs, etc. it is difficult to tracking

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