Topic: Cross post: Petition to form an indepentent Objectivist State - page 4. (Read 6293 times)
Objectivism implies a free society, that pays no taxes.
what does that have to do with objectivism anyway?
I know about the Free State Project, and in fact, its mentioned in the post. The problem is that the Free State project doesn't solve the federal tax problem, which is the biggest one. It removes the state tax, which is not a big deal, because already now I can register a company in a tax free state, like Delaware.
Just move to New Hampshire and put in some effort to change things. Lots of us here will help, and many of us are already working on it.
Free State Project
Free State Project
There are degrees on how much it will work
- Worst case: doesn't work at all on the govt -- it will raise public awareness as an alternative to the Tea Party, and occupy. We know what we want, and we don't do any vandalism.
- Mid case: We get some discussion going with govt: people will observe us and will get hope that everything is possible.
- Good case: we get started, and work things out as we move along. Create journals and publicity. Get people excited. Kind replay the story of Bitcoin in this new domain.
- Worst case: doesn't work at all on the govt -- it will raise public awareness as an alternative to the Tea Party, and occupy. We know what we want, and we don't do any vandalism.
- Mid case: We get some discussion going with govt: people will observe us and will get hope that everything is possible.
- Good case: we get started, and work things out as we move along. Create journals and publicity. Get people excited. Kind replay the story of Bitcoin in this new domain.
Please explain why you think this even MIGHT work, at all....
No, if we just get together and declare that we don't want to pay income taxes, two things will happen:
- we will stay in the territory but be forced to pay taxes, rendering the whole effort moot
- we will abandon the whole work effort
- we may try to rebel, but then, we degrade into the mode like in historical wars
The whole point to do this the right way.
- we will stay in the territory but be forced to pay taxes, rendering the whole effort moot
- we will abandon the whole work effort
- we may try to rebel, but then, we degrade into the mode like in historical wars
The whole point to do this the right way.
Why not buy one of the Greek islands. I hear they're in need of hard cash.
That's one of these things you don't ask for permission or approval.
You do it.
It's a systematic law of how structures emerge and empires fall. No declaration of agenda or political worldview can change that.
You do it.
It's a systematic law of how structures emerge and empires fall. No declaration of agenda or political worldview can change that.
You could say then that we can't trust USA govt respecting the constitution. If you think that the govt can break any law and amendment at any time, then you have a bigger problem than income taxes -- a totalitarian state. But USA prides itself of not being one. Lets capitalize on this fact to create an amendment: "The right to small groups to create self-sustaining isolated communities forgoing benefits of USA social security, in exchange for not paying income taxes".
Distributed Republics
You are right it's the end of the world as we know it, in a good way though.
imo we are heading there - one way or the other.
You are right it's the end of the world as we know it, in a good way though.
imo we are heading there - one way or the other.
You should call it Rapture.
The US government will never agree to those terms. And even if it did, you couldn't trust it not to break its promises later.
The US government will never agree to those terms. And even if it did, you couldn't trust it not to break its promises later.
Hi,
This is kind of related to Bitcoin, in terms of laissez-fair capitalism. Perhaps, some of you here are also Objectivists.
http://forum.objectivismonline.com/index.php?showtopic=23489
This is kind of related to Bitcoin, in terms of laissez-fair capitalism. Perhaps, some of you here are also Objectivists.
http://forum.objectivismonline.com/index.php?showtopic=23489
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