Topic: Crypt0S0ul is spamming out the reputation sub... - page 2. (Read 755 times)

Crypt0S0ul, you have to be brave enough to take this case and solve the problem. You can't force someone to admit they're guilty of an off-forum transaction between one and two other accounts. I've had a similar case where 16 accounts were involved in send all their assets in one wallet ^{[off-forum transaction],} but after they proved my suspicions wrong, I happily removed the negative tag.

I think your suspicions will be valid for determining they are alt if you can prove that they are using the same wallet or the same social media account. But if it doesn't exist, then I'm sure the existing evidence won't be enough. Again, the lesson I learned from the case I worked on was that if you can't prove all of those accounts with valid evidence have violated the campaign rules, then don't try to damage their reputation by throwing your doubts into the community. I completely gave up on the same case.

Firstly, I will say that no, I will not ask you to shut up, because you have the right to vote, just like everyone else. But it seemed to me that you previously asked about opening one topic for your searches, or was it a proposal from the members of the forum? Wouldn't that be more convenient?

The second thing I want to say is that if you yourself are not sure, then you are suggesting that others complete the check that you did. To round everything up, you can ask about any account that "seems" suspicious. And it loses confidence in you. Be confident.

Also, there are rules according to which alternative accounts are considered violators of the ban. Xal0lex spoke about this in great detail.



I am more than sure that if you had submitted a report on ban evasion to the moderators without the opinion of the community, it might not have received a "bad" mark, but it remained unprocessed.
Just follow the advice above from Xal0lex.

No, he asked.

This is not making sense. If this community enforces KYC or similar like we need to furnish where we are spending bitcoins then I will bind to all the practices of this community and based on that you may suspect me on my blockchain footprints. But, nothing is breached as per current official/unofficial rules and practices of this community, what you have to suspect? So, simply this is an attempt to ruin someone's reputation (and wasting time and resources) then why should not I complain?

I'm not trying to say that you shouldn't expose scammers and cheaters at all, but there's a right way and a wrong way to go about it. It's easy to accuse, of course, just posting something without valid and credible evidence. I doubt that much harm would be done by such an accusation, if it's not impartial, fair and correct then people are going to see right through it. But if you present things correctly then people will more likely accept your argument for what it's worth instead of dismissing it as biased. Regardless of whether you use your main account or your alt account for it.

If you feel the need to expose someone, at least make sure that you have valid evidence and they're actually guilty of doing something wrong first!

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But he didn't ask you where and why you spend your bitcoins. If you are not comfortable answering such questions, you don't have to. No one has the right to force you to do it, but then don't complain when someone else validates their suspicion by the blockchain evidence linking your accounts together and leaves a neutral tag on your account based on that.

I suspect a lot of things, that doesn't mean anything without proof.
Did you know several instant exchangers and payment processors recycle Bitcoin addresses? I've made payments to addresses that were used before, which doesn't mean I'm connected to any of the other users.

Please tell me how much you earn per month, where you live, provide a copy of your drivers license, and explain in details how you spent your money between February 14 and March 14 last year Or just tell me to piss off because it's none of my business. Protect your privacy whenever you can!

Don't you feel awkward on asking me where and why I spend my bitcoins? You are not my government legal/tax entity to ask such questions.

Would you mind explaining what connection you have with FanEagle and Captain Corporate? According to the blockchain, You have made some transactions with them. Based on that, I suspect something.

I've also exposed some high ranking users instead of newbie. Some of them have been proven guilty and legally tag. There's no reason to be afraid and hide behind alt if what you're trying to convey is true, even if proven guilty users are against the tag then I'm sure they won't have the power to stand against you.

It takes courage and enough reason to tag and accuse someone, if we are wrong then this will damage the reputation of other users. In the real world the police won't jail you for no reason and they won't make arbitrary accusations without being backed up by solid evidence, so they have to understand that the system works for the wrong things.

Crypt0S0ul,

You have not explained your stand on this yet:

Crypt0S0ul has an alt account and that has been declared publicly- AnotherAlt
It’s none of a secret. He has publicly posted that long ago.
However, a lot of people are doing this, hiding behind alt when exposing someone's alt (when they are high ranked). Because they fear to get neg tagged or maybe they don't want to make enemies.

Well, that's a problem, in my opinion.  If you aren't confident enough to post an accusation from your main account, why post it from an alt?  I'm not suggesting you only post accusations from your main account, I value everyone's privacy and encourage people to use alts if they have a specific privacy need for one.  There are plenty of legitimate reasons to use alts, and exposing cheaters is a valid one.  But at least use the "would I post this from my main account" measuring stick to consider whether a post is worth publishing.

As LoyceV alluded to; countless threads about exposed bounty cheaters who are relegated to the armpit of the forum anyway, is pointless.  If they're spamming, report them to the bounty manager and the mods.  If there's a legitimate abuse of a forum rule or signature campaign, and you're confident in your findings, you shouldn't even feel the need to use an alt.  The example LoyceV provided is absolutely perfect.  Uncle nutildah didn't need an alt to expose the figmentofmyass farm.  That farm included DT1 members and popularity among other high ranking members of the forum.  There was a very real risk of retaliation against nutildah for what he was posting, but did that scare him into hiding behind an alt?  No, because he was 100% confident in the evidence he was presenting to the forum.


I posed the question rhetorically, I don't need or want any one to answer.  And I certainly don't want to call anyone out, as I'm not claiming innocence myself.  I posed the question to get us all think about the ways the forum has evolved over the last few years, and whether some of the changes are necessarily good just because they may appear that way on the surface.

The same thing I also thought after I got a PM from a reputed member. No, I don't want to be an asshole. If you see my last thread, I just gathered some information and asked the community if it's sufficient or not. Because it was suspicious to me, and I wanted to report it. But, before reporting, I was trying to make sure I was right or not. That's why My thread title has a (?) Question mark.

One neutral tag isn't spamming.

As long as they're bounty spammers, it adds nothing. It's only useful if they have for instance 3 accounts in one high paying campaign.
Then again, maybe I'm not the one you were talking to

I am human

Yes, that's about accuracy of the spam post you report and it is never same as any account that you expose inaccurately due to cheat ^{[if any].} Reporting spammer to moderator is actually much more valuable than having to dig deep into an account you suspect is cheaters ^{[even if it's worth it].} I can even say I will be very careful now because it concerns the reputation of other users.

I've reported 2K more posts with 100% accuracy, so I guess it should be a useful contribution to the forum in an effort to reduce spam posts. But you don't have to be an asshole just because you want to help the forum catch scammers or cheaters, just do what you want as long as it's true and doesn't create drama and never gives the impression to established members that your contributions are meaningless. Don't give the impression that you want to earn merit and want to become DT member just because catching scammers and cheaters.

I do not deny anything already discussed in this thread. I accept all the blame given by everyone. The Community created me. You always see me creating drama with this account because I use this account only whenever I feel it's controversial. All things mentioned in this thread are not my intention. Of course, I want to rank up and I believe everyone else wants to rank up too.

One thing I want to say; You always won't be correct. If you believe you are 100% right and you don't do mistakes. I would say you are not human or maybe you are superhuman. I am not worried about my accuracy, one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports. That was from Report Page 😜. I was thinking to be more careful and do more research before saying something. But, look like everyone wants me to Shut the fuck off.

I think this is the purpose of AnotherAlt posting and exposing scams or cheaters with this account, you should read this one from the comments.



I noticed that the more we expose cheaters, the better they are at hiding behind all their accounts. Look at how many thousands of newbie accounts have been caught because cheats bounty, but nothing will stop them from creating new accounts after the old ones are tagged. They can easily change their social media account username, it will be used to work with other accounts.

In my opinion, if the forum adjusted the rules about only full rank members being able to join the bounty then I'm sure less cheaters would be caught. This will obviously force every newbie to post something quality to rank up to full members and each and every one of them will no longer be able to go straight to the forum just to spam their social media with a new altcoin project.

I would also suggest keeping everything on one topic. However, Crypt0S0ul is most likely trying to create a new drama each time, but his evidence is frequently insufficient.
Linking alternate accounts seems like a good thing to do when you have free time, but yes, it's more and more of a waste of time as the forum doesn't prohibit new accounts from being opened after one of the alternate accounts are tagged.
I wonder if we changed our actions and started tagging former cheaters, would we reduce the number of new alternatives? Since each new "old" account does not even think about how to change or prevent in the future the possibility of linking according to the past data that has already been revealed. Since it takes some time to create new social accounts and promote them, we may have scared away those who want to create new accounts on the forum so easily.

Yeah, I don't think I was the worst offender but I definitely stopped doing that recently after hearing what Timelord2067 had to say about it with respect to his local rule on merit-giving in the known alts thread.  I think it's a silly local rule, but his point was taken.

I'm not sure that's the reason, though.  I always thought when I saw an alt hunter who was very low ranked that they were just trying to build a reputation, because those members have existed for years and before the merit system even began (I'm pretty sure).

In any case, with the departure of a few old-time DT members who used to feverishly tag every offender of everything everywhere, there seems to be a sort of "meh" attitude toward bounty cheaters as of late.  Or it could simply be that over time people realized that sniffing them out and tagging them doesn't do much good and isn't really worth the effort.

Yo, that dude's insane in the membrane.  Try starving him into silence.

With such detailed exchange conditions, it is probably impossible to deceive a child, let alone an experienced forum member who knows how to use cryptocurrency, trading

Are you trolling here? You clearly tried to take advantage of users who might not have known any better with your little exchange. Maybe you're not a scammer per se, but you're definitely a scumbag for trying to screw users over if they had engaged in a trade with you.