Topic: Crypto Compression Concept Worth Big Money - I Did It! - page 15. (Read 13895 times)

You'd better keep your word then. I have all the information I need about you, Christopher.

Just a few encouragement, I had a business partner before that is an artist. He loves to paint, and make arts. And he has a hard time doing math. But instead of being discouraged, he used his strength(creativity) and made a software that would run a stores point-of-sales system, so what happened was he made an excel, yes excel as in spreadsheet using the macro and from there he made the spreadsheet run the whole pos and even networked it!

So heads up!

A million times, this.  True for all ideas, no matter what field you're talking about, technical or creative.

Update:  

I received a PM asking that I demonstrate my ability to beat the Kolmogorov Complexity by achieving 1st place in the Hutter Prize.  Since I have said that my compression technique can achieve 99.8% of the file... winning the Hutter prize requires creating an executable file (standalone) which can recreate the exact file placed at this URL:  http://prize.hutter1.net/   in under 1 Gigabyte of Memory and 10 GB of hard drive space.  If a programmer could program my the executable decoding program from my theory at a size of 1 megabyte, then I propose that my complete file size with the program included would be less than 1.5 Megabytes, which would qualify the person who helped me program this to at least the Grand Prize of 50,000 euros.  The prize awards 500 euros for each 1% of improvement.  We would be giving them FAR more than just 100% if our file size was only 1.5 Mbs.  The Hutter file to be encoded is 100 megabytes, and one man has gotten it down to 16 megabytes.  Imagine what they would do when they saw 1.5?  hahaha!

Maybe that is enough incentive to get someone amongst you interested now.  Maybe just a small team, 2-3 people.  We can do this.

Einstein did know his math.

I have see this before.

Bored one day, I invented a "new math" that did not use addition, subtraction, multiplcation, or division signs. I called the new sign a "fordor". It works by simply concatenating the two numbers around the operator. For example:
1@1 = 11
22@43 = 2243
1@98 = 198

An entrepreneur type who saw me working on this said that it may be useful for data compression in computers. Even as a child, I knew that this was not the case because any compression algorithm based on my "fodor" concept would be "lossy". Look at the '198' example above: it could be the result of 19@8 or even 198@.

However the entrepreneur type ran with the idea despite my objections. Perhaps he was thinking along the same lines before seeing my work on "fordors". I later learned he applied for a patent on the idea. He wrote software and produced retail boxes. I was told one example he liked to use is that a whale comes from a sperm and and egg.

The software never sold well because it never achieved it's 90% compression claims. In a review, PC Magazine said none of their test files resembled the originals upon decompression. If you don't believe me, I may be able to find some of these references, but it would take some digging.

The point is that ideas like this are common. Ideas are a dime as dozen. Implementing ideas is the difficult part: and you are not going to do it by isolating yourself for fear that somebody is going to steal your big pay-day.

Afraid someone will steal your idea?

Re the kook comments: kooks have a niche. They can force you to think about problems in new ways to explain why an idea won't work. It has in fact been explained in several ways, the OP does not appear to understand, why it won't work.
 

Mushoz, I am impressed with your attempt to help me see the error of my ways.  It is a valid argument, and its one I encountered when I was first studying compression in the first place.  But I didn't want to do someone else's compression Idea, so I stopped studying compression theories after the first 30 days, because I realized all I could do was try (and only TRY) to improve a few percentage points over what had been done before, and my math skills were not up to par for that kind of challenge. What I was seeking was a kind of Einstein-like E=MC(squared) formula that was small, efficient, and could do what needed to be done.  Imagine trying to copy a jpg image.  Every bit is unique in its composition and arrangement.  How could you retain that fingerprint without actually compressing anything?  I am not replacing any bits, I am not trying to store that 1 and 0 you claim I am trying to store.  I figured out a way to store every unique placement of every bit in this example jpeg image within a natural container open to all peoples of the world, that would create a unique truly 100% imprint of the data in that file within that structure, and then give me a pointer that I can then teach a software program to decipher (using logical binary rules) how to SOLVE THE BLOCK like any crypto currency does.  Once the block is solved, the solution IS the dataset used to solve the block!  It's absolutely awesome, I am literally in awe of the idea itself that I've arrived at.  I want to share this with the world.  I am going about this is a totally new and unique way NO ONE has ever thought about before. That's why it's not compression like we've ever known it before.  The only reason I say it's only 99.8% complete is that when my (future) software program saves out the references it needs to be able to logically solve the block when the time comes, there are a few bytes of that per every 10 Gigabytes or so that have to be recorded to ensure recovery of the block later.  All of the entire contents of our example's jpeg image goes into the solution, but what comes back out are the crypto codes and reference points adding up to about 0.2% of the overall file size.  If computing power was fast enough, I could gaurantee recovery of any size file with merely one crypto code, but at the present time, I cannot gaurantee fast enough speeds, unless we use a quantum mbit computer.  Then yes, with that computer, I could say my file compression is 100% whether you believe it or agree with that conclusion or not.  Yes.  That's what is possible here.  My idea, given a few years of maturation on the world market, could indeed compress all data to nothing if the computing power was strong enough to decode it without taking a lifetime to achieve it.  Once I publish this, you will read it for yourself and see for yourself and marvel at it as I do every day.  So I am very thankful for those of you are sending me positive messages and PM'ing me about offers to help. This is already beginning to become helpful, as I had hoped.  I think the world needs this idea badly, and I don't think anyone or anything can stop it from eventually coming out.  I'm just trying to be the one who gets remembered for inventing it.  I have never amounted to much and except for a few students who speak fondly of me and have tried to get me some teaching awards, I haven't done anything to make my family proud of me.  One day, this will be my legacy.  So I need to stay attached to it.  But if I get cancer and am going to die or anything, then yes, I'll go ahead and come on here and give it away in the interest of science and the future of mankind.  I won't go to my grave clutching the secret, I assure you.

You claim to have broken Kolmogorov complexity,which is so huge,that it can be the discovery of this century.

I had to tried and imagined once to use complex mathematical functions to generate entire bit sequence of a huge file (some complex function % 2),but theoretical its near to impossible for every file,as every file have different random sequence of bits.

As you say you had a working prototype,if you are correct than prizes are waiting for you Hutter Prize.You should send your entry there and when you will win with a a seemingly impossible improvement,instantly the whole world will recognize you

OP, please read this page and hopefully you will understand why it's not possible to losslessly compress any data. Some data will actually get bigger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pigeonhole_principle

Now I have a _very_ simple example for you. Lets say we want to "compress" 2 bits of data. All the possible datasets are:

00
01
10
11

Now please compress those 4 datasets so that they will all get smaller. Impossible. Unless you use something like:

00 -> 0
01 -> 1
10 -> 10
11 -> 11

But then my next question will be:

Now please compress

0
1

Impossible again, since you've already used 0 and 1 to "compress" 00 and 01. So these 2 "datasets" will have to get bigger by definition, or you will have a collision.

The reason why compression works, is that it encodes sequences and often reoccurring patterns. But as we just saw, there will be datasets (random data) that will actually increase in size if a lossless compression algorithm is used on it. And it just so happens that movies and pictures are very similar to random data. Unless, of course, you use raw pictures/movies, but these files are huge. And believe me when I say you won't beat current algorithms which have been developed over the years by a lot of skillful people.

The thing I think you're missing, is this: You are talking about reference points. This dictionary to which these reference points point, also needs to be stored somewhere. And even if you use referencing, you will still run into the Pigeon Hole Principle. 2 bits of data have 4 possible combinations, so in order to be able to reference to those 4 possible combinations you need 4 different reference points.....Which require 2 bits of data.

Hope this helps.

Just release your new algorithm under an open source license.
You'll get a name for yourself, and big companies will be knocking at your door for your employment.

Ok, I already feel stupid for giving this any more thought, but here it goes...


You say your file will just be a bunch of reference points and then you need a program that then looks up the references to recreate the file.  Whats referenced by the program.  Will be data on my computer, or the internet.. or Nature?  The other thing would be that higher entropy datasets (like images, audio, video) will need many many more references than , say a text file.  So much so that the process of looking up them (references?) could take a very long time , even for a gpu, asic.  So you just need a library of data point with every possible permutation of a certain length of binary data?  Where's that stored?  How fine is each binary data piece is in the library? if its like bitcoin and you are just hashing till you get the right target.. that may take the age of the universe to get the Lord of the Rings movie from a 600kb list of reference points.  What about loss.. i guess this would be loss less compression?  There's to much to go on about.


I'm thinking it'd look  a lot like the early game Pong with that few reference points.


Appealing to the bible for acceptance on faith of your word.. ehh.


..Maybe because after 25 years nothing has come of any of your ideas.  I'm just guessing from your life description.

Desperate, yea... I hope you do too.

I don't know.
Maybe it's because it's 0200 here and I'm a bit tired, but there's something that just doesn't quite sit with me.

You say you're not a programmer, or have any knowledge of computer sciences, but yet claim to be able to compress and encrypt gigabytes of data instanteously.
I believe you also said that you have been able to do this already and can reproduce the results at will. Then you go on to say that it's all just a theory.

I'm seeing too many contradictions here to believe that you have even the simplest idea of what to do. I don't doubt for one second that you believe this is possible. Unfortunately, I don't believe this feat of engineering is even possible.

Best of luck to you on getting a team together on this.

Ah, too bad BenRayfield hasn't show up here for 4 months now.

WARNING Transactions and Addresses will soon be used as high volume data storage

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/warning-transactions-and-addresses-will-soon-be-used-as-high-volume-data-storage-60386

If we could get the "high volume data" kook close to the "crypto compression" kook we could observe a kook-singularity. Or maybe they would just kook-annihilate each other? Anyway, the science of psychoceramics would certainly advance to the next level.

How is it a waste of time to ask for help when you can't do something yourself?  I can't program software, and even if I did, it wouldn't be efficient like a real programmer who knows what they're doing could do.  Henry Ford was known to be illiterate and was at one time brought before the American people to justify why a CEO of a company couldn't regurgitate commonly known facts anybody knows.  He said "Why do I need to know everything when I have at my fingertips men who know everything?  I can, with the push of a button in my office, have any information I need within moments.  I don't need a dictionary in my head when one in my hands is just as useful."  He was slamming the idiocy of going to school to learn facts that can be found in any book in mere moments, when he was the CEO of a powerful company and could accomplish great things regardless of his educational background. 

By saying I want to waste everyone's time, you clearly don't understand the point of my theory, which is to save everyone enormous time on the internet, cut down internet bottlenecks and peak-time surges that lead to the internet becoming non-useful and annoying in all of its time wasting inefficiency.  My theory is not a time waster, but potentially a huge time saver for the world as a whole! 

I don't want to waste time, I want to create something amazing, with people who like to think and create together.  There's nothing wrong with that.

 

So where does the money for all this come from (lawyers, offices, corporate formation, patents, etc)?

Please answer the direct question: Will you be asking for money from investors on this forum?  If so then saying you are not asking for money is a lie.

No, I won't ask for any money ever.  I will ask for this:  someone with vision, possibly a future CEO of this company, to gather a group of people who can program very difficult mathematical problems who just like encryption in general.  A lawyer is brought in to help lock in everyone's part and everyone's share of the company based on their skills and usefulness to the project.  Once that's out of the way, I will share the idea and how to accomplish it, proposing my direction for the project from start to finish.  I am not to become the CEO, I don't want power, I want recognition and money, plain and simple.  Once you've all heard the theory and asked your questions, and I've explained it all (this may take up to 2 days before you understand it all and get to the level of comfort with the theory that I have) AND IF YOU AGREE TO GO FORWARD, then the company goes forward.  From that point on, the investors would be there to help us sustain ourselves while programming this thing.  Get a small office or set of offices, the basics.  We program this, we get it working.  We patent it.  OR copyright it, whatever best applies.  That's one for the lawyer.  Once the idea goes to ground and is released, we take our individual cuts of the pie as the software is licensed to companies and the rights to use it are purchased by Facebook, Google, etc ...  we talk to videocamera companies about creating an architecture that allows us to film videos directly to our file format, and now even the smallest watch cameras coming in 2014 can record hundreds of hours of video without running out of space.  We figure out all the ways we can benefit from this discovery.  And that's it.

You want us to believe you have invented a compression method which can compress all files to less than their original size.
That isn't true, therefore by your definition, you are a scammer.

(I disagree with your definition btw, it is more likely that you are simply deluded. A scammer would be someone who wants others to believe something he knows to be false.)

Well, I appreciate your offers and your intention to help, but I'm not going to "send you my idea" and let you do whatever with it...  If you want to help start a team and secure our rights via legal documents, then once those are in my hands, I'll be able to share the idea with you.  But I'm not sending it away into the ether without legal gaurantees.  I've already said as much as I can without getting into the real details that would give away the solution.  Thanks for your interest, though, that does validate my efforts at least in part of trying to create interest in getting this theory turned into a reality.

P.S.:  I tried to leave, but got sucked back in ... hahaha ...  oh, forums!  What they do to us!  Haha.

Even if you claimed 1% compression in all instances it is perfect compression.  Perfect compression doesn't mean 100% reduction but then again even someone with basic knowledge on the subject would know that.


So you will not ask now or ever in the future for a single cent from any "investor" on this forum?

Well, I never claimed it was perfect 100% compression.  I did say 99.8% .... the reference codes needed to encode the sequence have to be stored into a small file, but that's all you need to send to the other side of the internet and the program on their computer can figure out the rest using the instruction sets programmed into it.  I'm not a scammer, by definition, a scammer is someone who wants others to believe something that isn't true.  Since I am not a scammer and you are telling everyone that I am, by definition that makes you the scammer, trying to belittle my accomplishment, even if it's only in theory.  But it won't ever get to reality if people don't want to help me, which is why your comments can be damaging.  I know their are a lot of cruddy people in this world, and I am not a great man or a man of many achievements, but I care about this idea and about what it can do not only for myself and the team who helps me, but for the world, too.  It's uses go far beyond mere data compression, I assure you.  

Folks, I'm not here asking for money, I'm asking for a team of people, and a contract that preserves all of our rights and our agreed upon monetary valuations as a member of that team (and I get credit for the discovery), and I'll tell you all my idea who is on the team, and if you agree it's doable, we go ahead, and if not, then yes, I disappear at your behest, and no money ever changed hands.  This isn't diabolical, man.  It's a real offer and I really mean to achieve this.  And whoever helps me gets in on the action, that's it.