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Gerald Davis
Like I said I happen to be somewhat of an "expert" on data compression and transmision having worked for 25 years in the disk drive, set top box and video industries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4, etc.) so if you would like me to take a look at your idea I will.  I can tell you if the theory looks sound or maybe point our something you may have overlooked.

Are you trying to compress audio, video, text, binary files or all of these?

The OP claims perfect compression of all data in all instances.  When you have perfect compression why limit yourself to one niche?
legendary
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Like I said I happen to be somewhat of an "expert" on data compression and transmision having worked for 25 years in the disk drive, set top box and video industries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-2, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG-4, etc.) so if you would like me to take a look at your idea I will.  I can tell you if the theory looks sound or maybe point our something you may have overlooked.

Are you trying to compress audio, video, text, binary files or all of these?
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Okay, it's getting late here where I live, so I'm signing off for the night.  Thanks for all your contributions.  I appreciate your time and energy, even in refuting me.  You are all welcome.  

And please, if any of your know some other Bitcointalk members who might be interested in this topic and my theory, please direct them to this posting and let them talk with me as they may.  This is the best thing I've ever done in my life and I want to do something about it so bad.

Good night everyone.
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Gerald Davis
Perfect compression is an impossibility.  No algorithm can guarantee that all inputs will be reduced in size.  It is an absolute impossibility.  This hasn't prevented numerous scams over the years very similar to perpetual motion machines or trading algorithms that can't lose.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/part1/section-8.html

Anyone claiming they can compress all data x% is lying.  Period.  All lossless compression algorithms will result in LARGER file size for some inputs. That is a mathematical certainty.

I'm not lying, I assure you.  If I am in error anywhere, it may be in not understanding some fundamental principle which might SEEM to make this impossible.  But because I do not possess any such understanding, and indeed believe it IS indeed possible, then perhaps I am able to overcome what others deem impossible (and to them IS so because of that belief) while I do not have such a hindrance.  IF you knew the method by which I have achieved this compression, then your claim in quotes above would vanish in a puff of air as your jaw hit the floor.  If I wished to remain a pauper all my life, to prove you wrong, I would indeed tell you the secret right now.  But I've lived a poor life, and now it's time for something to actually go right for me.  I believe I can have a better end to my story than all the starts in it that went nowhere.  

This is not so much "compression" that is almost a misleading concept.  I am placing the entire contents of the data into another container that anyone can access, and that container has a way of recording which 0's and 1's are where in that container.  So that all I need to do is reference to you a code.  You go into the container and decode the references via the software, and the 0's and 1's come back to life as they were originally.  But now that I have the finished crypto code, which is just the master reference key to the sequence hidden inside that container, your computer can follow the instructions programmed in it to solve the block the same way Bitcoins does.  Once the block is solved, you then have the entire original file contained inside that solved timeline.  I know how to do this because it's all I've thought about for 3 years, sometimes for 12 hours a day, sweating myself to death, unable to sleep, because the idea was so cool, I couldn't stop thinking about it.  

Yeah that is the definition of compression.  Your approach is a textbook scam attempt:
Step 1) Amazing opportunity with no useful facts or details.
Step 2) Build hype
Step 3) Just need some funding and everyone makes a fortune.
Step 4) Disappear.

Perfect compression is a mathematical impossibility.
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This is not so much "compression" that is almost a misleading concept.  I am placing the entire contents of the data into another container that anyone can access, and that container has a way of recording which 0's and 1's are where in that container.  So that all I need to do is reference to you a code.  You go into the container and decode the references via the software, and the 0's and 1's come back to life as they were originally.

On earth, we call this uploading the file to a server, and giving someone the URL.


But you still have to upload the entire contents of the file onto the server and then also download the entire contents too.  What I'm talking about is rendering the contents into a container contained in nature.  And then the person, using the code, can reproduce the contents right back out of nature.  The actual file never had to go anywhere.  All you needed was the reference itself.  A pointer, if you will, to where to start looking, and when to stop.  It was so hard to think of how to do this, but now that I've thought of it, it's so easy that it actually scares me how easy it is.  Once the world knows, they too will be in awe, just like any wonder of the modern world, or an impossible thing made real before their very eyes.  This feels like magic, but it just logic, pure and simple.
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This is not so much "compression" that is almost a misleading concept.  I am placing the entire contents of the data into another container that anyone can access, and that container has a way of recording which 0's and 1's are where in that container.  So that all I need to do is reference to you a code.  You go into the container and decode the references via the software, and the 0's and 1's come back to life as they were originally.

On earth, we call this uploading the file to a server, and giving someone the URL.
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Perfect compression is an impossibility.  No algorithm can guarantee that all inputs will be reduced in size.  It is an absolute impossibility.  This hasn't prevented numerous scams over the years very similar to perpetual motion machines or trading algorithms that can't lose.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/part1/section-8.html

Anyone claiming they can compress all data x% is lying.  Period.  All lossless compression algorithms will result in LARGER file size for some inputs. That is a mathematical certainty.

I'm not lying, I assure you.  If I am in error anywhere, it may be in not understanding some fundamental principle which might SEEM to make this impossible.  But because I do not possess any such understanding, and indeed believe it IS indeed possible, then perhaps I am able to overcome what others deem impossible (and to them IS so because of that belief) while I do not have such a hindrance.  IF you knew the method by which I have achieved this compression, then your claim in quotes above would vanish in a puff of air as your jaw hit the floor.  If I wished to remain a pauper all my life, to prove you wrong, I would indeed tell you the secret right now.  But I've lived a poor life, and now it's time for something to actually go right for me.  I believe I can have a better end to my story than all the starts in it that went nowhere.  

This is not so much "compression" that is almost a misleading concept.  I am placing the entire contents of the data into another container that anyone can access, and that container has a way of recording which 0's and 1's are where in that container.  So that all I need to do is reference to you a code.  You go into the container and decode the references via the software, and the 0's and 1's come back to life as they were originally.  But now that I have the finished crypto code, which is just the master reference key to the sequence hidden inside that container, your computer can follow the instructions programmed in it to solve the block the same way Bitcoins does.  Once the block is solved, you then have the entire original file contained inside that solved timeline.  I know how to do this because it's all I've thought about for 3 years, sometimes for 12 hours a day, sweating myself to death, unable to sleep, because the idea was so cool, I couldn't stop thinking about it.  

So stop trying to negate what is possible by saying it's not possible.  All things are possible if we only knew how.  Tesla's engine is a marvel of the modern that we are still using today, but even Edison didn't believe in it at first, and tried to sell off his faulty vision of creating a motor until at last, the truth of Tesla's engine's power and efficiency was known to dwarf all others.  He knew how to make it better, and no one else could do it like he could.  He had the idea.  Just as I have.
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Well I kind of thought of this few months ago. And I never thought somebody is thinking deeper about this. I believe this is really possible. And this will not take so much work. Just like the primes or any algorithm or solution set, it is possible to make this happen.

So what kind of team are you looking at? I guess if you needed some more help, contact the developers and not in this forum. I guess some will bad mouth your posts and troll this thread.


This is possible.  It can be done.  I would have tried to keep this a secret and work on it on my own, but I'm 42 now, and my brain pan just isn't what it used to be, I can't seem to learn new things very fast, and I can't imagine how to program something like this, because it seems too hard to program.  But the actual theory itself IS easy.

The encoding portion can be done on the fly it's so fast.  So we can get rid of all of those min-harddrives clogging up space in our smart phones (well, we can install apps on them of course, but for saving any other files, they can all be encrypted until its time to view them, when they are moved onto a standard drive for viewing and then deleted once they've been watched, keeping the crypto code in the vault for safekeeping permanently.

We can then offer all cameras, camera phones, video cameras, etc ... all medias that encode data into binary data, the ability to record video in chunks of say 500 Megabytes at a time, each with its own code that is only a FEW Kilobyte's each.  When you want to watch the video, it gets moved and decoded onto the standard hard drive for watching, and then dumped upon completion.

Imagine where we could take this theory if it indeed becomes a reality:

1) No more SD cards for storing large videos.  Recording video on the fly straight into Crypto Key.
2) Facebook and other such companies who do backups could stop having to buy huge server farms that are larger than we can comprehend to store their data.  Back ups would also store very fast, since the encoding portion is nearly instantaneous.  The decoding part is much slower though.  It requires brute force searching through branching timelines of huge data sets to find one "solution" (a needle in a haystack) and that's the only place this theory has its drawbacks.  In the decompression part.  Until we programmed it (and perhaps we could even program it to use Asics instead of GPU's) and saw how fast it could do such kinds of hunts, it's hard to say if it's way too slow to use.  That's my one fear.  We'd have to see.
3) No one could sniff your data enroute and see what it is as it's being transfered.


Thanks for your positive comments, you guys.   I appreciate it.
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Gerald Davis
Perfect compression is an impossibility.  No algorithm can guarantee that all inputs will be reduced in size.  It is an absolute impossibility.  This hasn't prevented numerous scams over the years very similar to perpetual motion machines or trading algorithms that can't lose.

http://www.faqs.org/faqs/compression-faq/part1/section-8.html

Anyone claiming they can compress all data x% is lying.  Period.  All lossless compression algorithms will result in LARGER file size for some inputs. That is a mathematical certainty.
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I think your really may be on to something here.  For example here in compressed form is an entire book related to the subject of data compression:

ISBN-10: 1846286026

Notice how I have encoded an entire book in a very small number of digits.

No you haven't.
You have identified and referred to the book, you have not encoded it.
You cannot extract the contents of the book without referring to a full copy of it from somewhere else.

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BTW I have some experience in this area having worked on data compression algorithms in the past.  So, if you want to send me an explaination of the idea I will let you know what I think of it.

If you have any experience in data compressions algorithms, you will know that they work by targeting particular types and patterns of data.
For any specific algorithm and file size, there is an input file which will result in the compression actually increasing the file size, not reducing it.
And summed up over all the possible files of the same size, compression will result in the same average file size.
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Do you want me to invest in your magical money printing company that pays out 50% interest a day?

That would be pretty darned funny ... if that wasn't the same exact joke I get every time I try to explain how Bitcoins are made, and yet here you are, in a Bitcoin forum.  How did you ever get to the point of believing in Bitcoins if you think like that?  

Anyway, if I was in your shoes and I heard someone say this stuff, I would make the same joke as you, but truth be told, it would only be because I was jealous I hadn't thought of it first.

Thanks for the laughs.

PS: You'd better not scam anyone. I will be the first to make sure you get arrested :-)

Man!  If I scammed anyone on something this cool, that I've actually worked on and created a working prototype theory for, then I'd need to go ahead and arrest myself first!  It'd be a major crime for the entire world.  When you watch Heroes (okay, let's assume you actually watch Heroes ha ha) who do you root for?  Sylar?  Or the good guys?  Because I root for Claire and Hiro and Matt Parkman.  I want the good guys to win.  If I were scamming someone, I would never do it with an idea like this.  This is me at my most earnest.  This is for real, guys.  From the bottom of my heart, I believe I've solved this and only want to see it be born into the world and to take credit for having done the impossible.  I want to feel the pride of believing further than anyone else on something that should have scared away everyone else.  I love this theory, I love thinking about it, it's saved my life on numerous occasions when I almost gave up hope.  I'm basically alive now just to see this through.  Because I have no family of my own, no wife, no girlfriends, just a lot of happy students who think I'm pretty special as a teacher.  That's a great accomplishment in most people's books, but I still want to be famous for doing this one thing.  I won't lie.  I desire fame for creating something. Let's put togethera team and try to DO THIS!
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I think your really may be on to something here.  For example here in compressed form is and entire book related to the subject of data compression:

ISBN-10: 1846286026

Notice how I have encoded an entire book in a very small number of digits.

http://www.amazon.com/Data-Compression-The-Complete-Reference/dp/1846286026/ref=pd_sim_b_1

BTW I have some experience in this area having worked on data compression algorithms in the past.  So, if you want to send me an explaination of the idea I will let you know what I think of it.

Keep it coming mate. This is what we need. We are now in the age of inspiration. Age of industrialization is coming in its last phase.
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Do you want me to invest in your magical money printing company that pays out 50% interest a day?

That would be pretty darned funny ... if that wasn't the same exact joke I get every time I try to explain how Bitcoins are made, and yet here you are, in a Bitcoin forum.  How did you ever get to the point of believing in Bitcoins if you think like that?  

Anyway, if I was in your shoes and I heard someone say this stuff, I would make the same joke as you, but truth be told, it would only be because I was jealous I hadn't thought of it first.

Thanks for the laughs.

I don't 'believe' in Bitcoins. I know they exist, and there is proof that Bitcoins exist.

PS: You'd better not scam anyone. I will be the first to make sure you get arrested :-)
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I think your really may be on to something here.  For example here in compressed form is an entire book related to the subject of data compression:

ISBN-10: 1846286026

Notice how I have encoded an entire book in a very small number of digits.

http://www.amazon.com/Data-Compression-The-Complete-Reference/dp/1846286026/ref=pd_sim_b_1

BTW I have some experience in this area having worked on data compression algorithms in the past.  So, if you want to send me an explaination of the idea I will let you know what I think of it.
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Well I kind of thought of this few months ago. And I never thought somebody is thinking deeper about this. I believe this is really possible. And this will not take so much work. Just like the primes or any algorithm or solution set, it is possible to make this happen.

So what kind of team are you looking at? I guess if you needed some more help, contact the developers and not in this forum. I guess some will bad mouth your posts and troll this thread.
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Birdy, I tried to thank your for your idea at least three times now, but the board keeps saying "You can't post within 360 of your last post!"  I mean who the heck bans posting less than six minutes apart?  That is truly mind boggling, it ruins immersion in the board chatting experience to have to sit and wait 6 minutes between posts.  I'm sorry but I don't agree with this policy.  Anyway, I thanked you profusely three times and was rejected in posting it 3 times.  This makes my 4th attempt.  And I never copied my post, so I've had to retype the entire message 4 times now.  

So you know I mean it when I say thanks!~

haha, damn newb restrictions ^^
you are welcome, at least it's an idea you could give a try.
There are a lot of scammers here, so if anything in your posts even hints at you wanting money from us people will rampage your thread, even more with a concept as unbelievable as this.
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Do you want me to invest in your magical money printing company that pays out 50% interest a day?

That would be pretty darned funny ... if that wasn't the same exact joke I get every time I try to explain how Bitcoins are made, and yet here you are, in a Bitcoin forum.  How did you ever get to the point of believing in Bitcoins if you think like that? 

Anyway, if I was in your shoes and I heard someone say this stuff, I would make the same joke as you, but truth be told, it would only be because I was jealous I hadn't thought of it first.

Thanks for the laughs.
b!z
legendary
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But an imagination without help is useless, and all I am doing here is asking for help.

Thanks for your time.


I've offered a solution, read my post.
You did want a solution to your problem and not just our money, didn't you?



Birdy, I tried to thank your for your idea at least three times now, but the board keeps saying "You can't post within 360 of your last post!"  I mean who the heck bans posting less than six minutes apart?  That is truly mind boggling, it ruins immersion in the board chatting experience to have to sit and wait 6 minutes between posts.  I'm sorry but I don't agree with this policy.  Anyway, I thanked you profusely three times and was rejected in posting it 3 times.  This makes my 4th attempt.  And I never copied my post, so I've had to retype the entire message 4 times now. 

So you know I mean it when I say thanks!~

Close the page, wait 6 min, reopen the page and post. Refreshing doesn't do the trick sometimes.
It is a newbie restriction to stop spam.
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But an imagination without help is useless, and all I am doing here is asking for help.

Thanks for your time.


I've offered a solution, read my post.
You did want a solution to your problem and not just our money, didn't you?



Birdy, I tried to thank your for your idea at least three times now, but the board keeps saying "You can't post within 360 of your last post!"  I mean who the heck bans posting less than six minutes apart?  That is truly mind boggling, it ruins immersion in the board chatting experience to have to sit and wait 6 minutes between posts.  I'm sorry but I don't agree with this policy.  Anyway, I thanked you profusely three times and was rejected in posting it 3 times.  This makes my 4th attempt.  And I never copied my post, so I've had to retype the entire message 4 times now. 

So you know I mean it when I say thanks!~
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