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Quote from: TheGreatPython on September 16, 2022, 05:22:03 PM

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if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

The thing that makes these futile is the fact that you could literally spend that money to buy bitcoin and hold it for 10 years and you would be profiting anyway. I am not saying that there aren't any good ones, maybe there are a few, but why risk your money to get a few good places, and maybe end up with one of the thousands of horrible ones, when you could simply just end up with something that is terrible.

This is why it is much better to keep your money in bitcoin for 10 years because that in return will be a good amount of money and we know it, there isn't a question mark about that, not even some altcoin, I mean literally bitcoin itself and I am sure we all believe it will go up a lot.

It is true that if bitcoin is hold for long time then it will definitely give a good profit and as you say if money is invested in bitcoin now and it is hold for 10 years then surely there will be a big profit which we Previously seen in the history of Bitcoin. But few people have the patience to keep a coin for 10 years so it will be a big challenge for everyone. it is not very easy task

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

The both possibilities are bad, and you will end up losing your money one way or another. Signals are basically the way people check indicators and tell you what a crypto "should" do, doesn't mean that it will do what it should, more often than not there are many coins which does what it shouldn't and go to opposite way.

This is why I am not expecting them to really have a difference, it will probably be a group that tries to make their money not via trading but more from the customers that come along the way. Anyone who charges you for indicators will know that it is not a guaranteed income and customers are a better way to make money from since it's steady method.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Not another “best trading signal group” question? This has been asked many times in the forum.

I have already seen many newbie accounts who are asking the same question but just rephrase or reword them to make them look “unique”.

There are a bunch of newbie accounts I have seen where their very first posts are all about the best trading signal group or so rather than being a natural member and introducing themselves to the community.

I am kinda suspicious of their true intentions here asking the same (but rephrased or reworded) questions like this. They just don’t really care at all and lazy to use the search box if these kinds of questions are already been asked and answered before.

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Quote from: Quidat on September 16, 2022, 06:34:31 PM

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

All of them are scams i would say on every group that ask out for some fees before you can join and just been said above that if its free then its good since you could really have at least share up some ideas or get from others which would might be helpful into your analysis thats why its up to you whether it is really that needed to join up with these groups or would totally be that
independent on your own and make out trading decisions which would really be not relying on others tips and suggestions.Its true that it is better to lose money
with your own ways or method rather than on following someone.

Definitely 100% scam, if they can analyze and give such accurate signals, I think they won't need to spend time creating groups and losing time calling people to join to collect money, they called the participation fee. People with such good trading and analytical skills will usually stay anonymous and focus on making profits because the returns will be much higher than the proceeds from others.

I would rather lose money from transactions I made than give money to others to use. In both of these cases, I lost money, but trading by myself, I will summarize and accumulate knowledge and experience for myself, from there I can improve my earning ability rather than following others.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

You can join some of the discussions group that was directly managed by reputable exchanges e.g Binance, Kucoin, etc. You can see real traders there.

If you are looking for a group that provides signals is the main subject, those groups are mostly not legit. It's still better to just joined trading groups that are discussing the trend and news, not the specific signals where the purpose is to lure people to subscriptions.

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These trader groups should only be used by those who do not require them, making them useless groups as well. If I knew how to trade and understood exactly what you were suggesting and the reasoning behind it, I would be able to come to the same conclusion on my own. Open them up and have a look at what they are doing if you wish, but it is not a game-changing invention to join one and start earning money right now because of them.

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Quote from: coinerer on September 15, 2022, 01:02:50 PM

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

Exactly, no guarantee, the risk is still high enough. Joining signal group, moreover, the free one means that we actually not ready with our own knowledge to trade in the crypto industry. This means that we should learn at first, read much more information, learn to increase our knowledge about crypto especially trading, and learn how to manage ourselves, our money, our emotion, and aslo time management. Trading is complex activity. If we only lay trading result based on the signal from certain groups, this is still evry risky,moroever if we actually don;t kow what should do with the signal. Non sense.

signal group can only be used for beginners who want to learn, we learn how he trades placing stop losses and targets, of course with the analysis they use. but after we know the basics of trading, then the next step is to develop ourselves to be able to trade and find a trading style that suits us, because after all the best thing is self-development in trading, profit and loss, sadly difficult, we must be able to control it ourselves to get our own goal

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Quote from: coinerer on September 15, 2022, 01:02:50 PM

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

Exactly, no guarantee, the risk is still high enough. Joining signal group, moreover, the free one means that we actually not ready with our own knowledge to trade in the crypto industry. This means that we should learn at first, read much more information, learn to increase our knowledge about crypto especially trading, and learn how to manage ourselves, our money, our emotion, and aslo time management. Trading is complex activity. If we only lay trading result based on the signal from certain groups, this is still evry risky,moroever if we actually don;t kow what should do with the signal. Non sense.

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Quote from: AicecreaME on September 16, 2022, 04:57:34 AM

Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

All of them are scams i would say on every group that ask out for some fees before you can join and just been said above that if its free then its good since you could really have at least share up some ideas or get from others which would might be helpful into your analysis thats why its up to you whether it is really that needed to join up with these groups or would totally be that
independent on your own and make out trading decisions which would really be not relying on others tips and suggestions.Its true that it is better to lose money
with your own ways or method rather than on following someone.

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if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

The thing that makes these futile is the fact that you could literally spend that money to buy bitcoin and hold it for 10 years and you would be profiting anyway. I am not saying that there aren't any good ones, maybe there are a few, but why risk your money to get a few good places, and maybe end up with one of the thousands of horrible ones, when you could simply just end up with something that is terrible.

This is why it is much better to keep your money in bitcoin for 10 years because that in return will be a good amount of money and we know it, there isn't a question mark about that, not even some altcoin, I mean literally bitcoin itself and I am sure we all believe it will go up a lot.

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Quote from: ultrloa on September 13, 2022, 09:13:57 AM

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

Unfortunately, that type of convincing yourself can't be broken by other people. If they believe that there are good people out there who are willing to help them then they will keep on believing that they are good people, not because someone else convinced them because if it was like that then one person convincing them that it is a good idea, could be turned by another person saying it is a bad idea.

But, when you convince yourself that they are good people thenthere isn't a situation where someone else could turn that idea, only the fact that they could make you lose money could make you realize it. When they do make you lose money then you would know what you are doing.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 06:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

If you'll find any, most likely they are going to ask you money before you could join and have signals everyday that there's no guarantee you'll get profits. If you get unlucky, you could lose a lot of money with their signals and ended up having nothing, which is more frustrating because you lost your money using someone's decision.

Instead of looking for groups like that, there's a lot of tutorial on YouTube, just to have a basic knowledge about trading, and the rest is up to you to figure out.

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Quote from: kotajikikox on September 15, 2022, 11:30:30 PM

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

And the sad reality is that we first suffered losses, and commits mistakes before we realized our wrongdoings. Though we don't want this to happen, unfortunately, we can't also escape this from happening to us. Just like it happen to you, I have had several losses as well in my trading life which sometimes put me down and even think about quitting, however, I realize that there are no sweet rewards if we don't suffer difficulties. Facing these things makes us think wisely and make us stronger to accept what are the results even if it was not what we wanted to happen.

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Quote from: rojan on September 15, 2022, 10:34:48 PM

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Quote from: bhooscream on September 14, 2022, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 06:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade. First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first. For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose. So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market. After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

there is nothing wrong from losing when we are beginners because this will add experiences to what we did wrong and use it to not happening again , and also those chances are way to improve our attitude and mindset in market like this in which very volatile.
there are some of us who have lose many times before starting to earn and I am one of those. so expect losses but also learn from it.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 12, 2022, 11:03:00 PM

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

That is probably what they think but people need to use their common sense more often or they are going to be scammed over and over again in this market, they need to ask themselves what will they do if they had the skill to trade the markets and make money at will? Do they really think that they will spend their time trying to convince people to follow their advice for free or for a small sum of money or will they spend their time looking at the charts all the time so they do not lose a single trading opportunity? And it is obvious they will choose the second option instead of the first one.

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Quote from: bhooscream on September 14, 2022, 07:32:29 PM

Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 06:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

Just being said, the signal groups have nothing to do with us and are even hard to understand especially if we are new to trading. If we are aiming to learn who to trade with, joining these groups is not a good idea, we'd rather spend $100, do trading by ourselves, and learn from it. Because what does these signal groups to us only ask for money without thinking if we are able to get what really we wanted to happen, and I don't think that was their concern as well. And in the end, we are just a losser.

New people who want to trade should first get good experience and then trade. First of all, if someone wants to trade with a snap decision, he will lose first. For this the first thing he needs to do is trade with advice from good experienced people here I don't think he will ever lose. So he must first have a good understanding of the cryptocurrency market. After that he has to trade otherwise he will face many problems.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 12, 2022, 06:41:25 PM

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

By joining such signal groups there is no guarantee. I joined a premium group three years ago and started trading there by watching the signals. But I could not be satisfied. Since then I started avoiding trading signals. I believe those who can analyze a project they can do well in trading. Over all to get prosperity acquiring proper knowledge is much needed in trading business.

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Quote from: Awwal08 on September 15, 2022, 12:14:41 PM

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

Trading groups it's cool, but don't forget about money management. This is the main reason why 90% of traders lose their deposits.

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Quote from: Maus0728 on September 04, 2022, 06:53:32 AM

I have joined 2 discord group of crypto traders led by @Mindset_BTC and @bloodgoodBTC -- that's their Twitter handle. You can chat or ask questions from there but it isn't a community that's frequently active who will gave signals for you to follow. They also have trading resources just to get your feet wet.

Or...you can just hop in to the Speculation[1] or Trading Discussion[2] board here in this forum.

[1] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=57.0
[2] https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=8.0

Thanks for the info, I'm very glad to see a group to join, I really lose a lot of money. This will bring the ending of losing money, I will now trade with caution.

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Quote from: TelolettOm on September 12, 2022, 06:41:25 PM

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

That is a personal choice, but from my own experience, joining a VIP trading signal doesnt mean that we will earn the profits much, or even the trading signals will work, no, exactly not.
Moreover if we use them without any basic or further skills and ability about trading, moreover Future trading, this will not be efective. Trading signal is only as a support to be sued for consideration, not for the only one to use the signal to trade.
That is why eprsonally I prefer to stop using it and leave Future trading because that was very not suitable for me. And for those who are new, it is better not only to use trading signal,moroever the free one.

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