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Quote from: milewilda on September 14, 2022, 05:18:48 PM

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.

That is exactly what I regret is and what I think right now. I spent around $100 to join VIP trading signal, but in fact, I only used this for about less than 3 months only and then I stopped trading in the Future market. Because I couldn't get what I expect. Why? Because actually I really couldn't learn much from the signal, I only got the signal that was given by the administrator, but I didn't know how to analyze the signal, how to implement it actually to make or optimize the signal and position. This makes me also lost much Grin

That is why rathetr than earnig, it is better to learn at first, the way to be a future trader because that is complex, difficult, and also high risk. But if we can't, better to stay away from future trading.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

if anyone want to take VIP support for trading then it will much costly for him/her . I don't think one should be able to spend more money when starting training because when someone starts training they don't have enough money to manage a VIP group. So one must have basic knowledge about token analysis to start trading otherwise he cannot succeed in trading.

Rather than making yourself to spent out lots of dollars for just those VIP account or access on certain groups, it would be more sensible if you do make use of those amounts for your trading capital.
Nothing beats out when you do learn up from yourself on the things which you are the ones who could benefit out rather than making yourself believe to follow into those so called groups which are
actually not really give out any difference.Cant really deny that they do really have some help in terms of analysis been given but those arent just precise nor accurate but rather pure speculations
been made.You are just simply wasting off money on paying up into those sub fees which arent really that helpful at all.

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Quote from: monineklutak on September 14, 2022, 03:33:46 AM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

trading experience is needed to shape our trading personality, by continuing to practice and pay attention to each of our transactions, then we will know our shortcomings and can improve them. if this is done continuously then later we will become experienced traders and can understand market movements. so in learning trading there is no surrender, we must be ready to be swayed by the market until we can understand it

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Quote from: monineklutak on September 14, 2022, 03:33:46 AM

Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

As you said, trading is not easy, so we have to learn how to trade properly. Don't look for shortcuts when trading, it will only result in losses
in the end. I see people who trade relying on the signals given in trading groups are just lazy people to learn how to analyze the market.
Even though the signals given by trading groups only benefit the group owner.

Of all the trading groups that I have participated in, it is rare that they provide education for their members, most trading groups only give signals
to their members, to buy certain coins at their recommended prices. Even though the fact is that after we buy the coins, the coins will suddenly
dump, because we are only used by the group owner for his personal gain. Even paid trading groups are the same, will not make us successful traders.
My advice is to avoid joining trading groups that only provide trading signals, just focus on learning how to do research and analysis. It would be
much better if we take a trading course, it will teach how to become a successful trader.

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

Trading is not easy and it is really very complex that both knowledge and skills are important things for traders to have,
continue to learn to understand trading and that is of course to support ourselves in trading,
we need to think about the future

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Quote from: GeorgeJohn on September 12, 2022, 03:37:20 PM

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it.

The basics should cover the fact that scammers run rampant and that paid groups or non-paid groups giving out free picks are actually scams run by such people. In fact the amount of money such scams generate is enough to give the impulse to these scammers to keep running and launching more such groups.

Therefore such groups should be completely avoided, specially those being cold -PMed on telegram or so.

If someone wants to make money from the market, they can't have a get-rich-quick mindset, they will lose money to scammers.

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Quote from: Silberman on September 12, 2022, 10:03:00 PM

Quote from: redsun114 on September 12, 2022, 08:28:45 PM

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

People who's been feed by false hope avail this because they think that those people give some signals is angels sent from heaven to them and they ignore the fact that in reality if those people are really always having a good day on trading they will not waste their time to any other else like creating groups and give there signals. Newbie should know there agenda since for sure they are aftering the money paid by them and other people, if they see something like this its a big red flag already since asking for payments means that they didn't make good profits for their trades and they find another way just to earn.

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Like everyone had said, it's just a waste of time to be in the day trader/signal groups. Paid or not. Better spend your time learning how the market works, open a trial account, trade and learn the basics from there. Or learn about the technical terms, and situational for crypto in general.

Cause information/tips/signals from any trader group are unreliable and have to be seen from a cynical point of view. No one going to give out free lunch. This brings you back to your situation: if you're a newbie, knowing that you knew nothing about the market and how it works and had to rely on those groups then you're completely under their thumb, under their manipulation. See how many risks you put yourself in?

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Quote from: redsun114 on September 12, 2022, 08:28:45 PM

I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

It is quite odd why more people cannot see the incongruence of those groups because that is not the only one that exist, another one is why any trader that knows what is the market about to do would bother giving free or paid signals instead of trading those signals by himself? After all if the owners of those groups could do half of what they say they can do they could become millionaires given enough time, this means that in reality they cannot do what they say they can and instead they are just trying to deceive the people that listen to them.

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I agree with everyone that if you have no idea whats going on and just follow then you are going to end up with a good big loss. You should be aware of what you are doing which means you are already a trader yourself and you do not need them.

The only people who should be using these trader groups are the people who do not need them hence it makes them useless groups as well, if I know how to trade and know exactly what you are suggesting and why you are suggesting it then I would be able to figure that out myself as well. Sure open them up and see what they are doing just in case if you want, but it is not a make or break type of innovation to join one and suddenly start making money thanks to them.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

Exactly, trading signal will not able to help much moreover if we actually don't have any good knowledge about the cryptocurrency, trading and also moreover trading in the Future market, including how to analyze the charts and candles of every token or coin.
We cannot deny that sometimes, we may use certain trading signal moreover from VIP group, however, in fact, not all signal will work as what they have done Because sometimes, they have tried the signal at first and when we are treated in the position, the market may be changing. That is why the signal may be not effective. I have ever joined a VIP trading signal group, in fact, the administrator also said that no every signal will work effectively 100%, and there will be always risks to the signal. SO, be wise with the trading margin and position.

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Quote from: junkerr on September 12, 2022, 07:39:29 AM

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

from my perspective it's good for somebody to study the elementary things of trading before venturing into it. because i have notice that while some people experience lose in trading is because of lack of understanding and lack of inquiring over trading, because trading have a strategic method use in trading and without understanding it in such way, you will not excell via trading. You are not far from the truth base on your suggestion.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market. And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.

You are right. currently, many trading groups only provide information on the assets that can be purchased and forecast growth targets only. even what is given is not necessarily successful.
most such groups share for trading futures on the exchange.
not many provide knowledge and direction regarding the use of the simplest tools and methods of analysis that a beginner can do.

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Quote from: South Park on September 11, 2022, 04:29:36 PM

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

When one can do market analysis then surely one gets an idea about the up and downs of the market. And when he receives a signal from a trading group, he is able to analyze it himself and feel how profitable the signal is. So I think a trader needs to have basic knowledge of market analysis regardless of which group to take signals from . otherwise he will never get better profit

IMHO you are talking about mediocre trading signal base on the tone of your discussion because the real signal was meant as guide for completely noob traders for there trading moves. It includes explanation of both technical analysis and fundamental analysis. I knew that there are a lot of signal group that using the term signal on providing bullshit trading call but that is not the real purpose of signal.

Traders should really have a basic knowledge before they even start trading and trading signal is guide on what coin should be bought since it’s very hard to browse all the coins and look all the chart for buy signal.

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A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

And this is the paradox with signals, someone that doesn't really know enough about the markets is not going to be capable of distinguishing when the signal they were given is good or not, and as such the signal is completely useless to them, but someone that actually knows enough about the markets to make this distinction also has enough knowledge to make their own analysis about what's happening in the market and create their own signals, making the use of those groups completely useless for them

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Quote from: justdimin on September 11, 2022, 04:18:02 PM

I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.

Realizing how bad they are will make you appreciate that slow growth and process in trading is still the best. You're the one to realize and see the huge gap that it brings if you're learning on your own through your experience, no dictation, no one gives you that doubt to yourself.

Quote from: justdimin on September 11, 2022, 04:18:02 PM

We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.

Well for me, they better listen instead of doing the whole thing and joining these so called trading groups. What's must better to be realized is all about learning on their own through trading and understanding it through their made experiences.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

This is a question that is asked frequently in this forum and if you have taken the time to read the responses to those questions you will see that the majority of the members of the forum are not really very enthusiastic about those groups, and it is very easy to see why that is the case, most of those groups do not really proportionate to you any kind of useful information about learning how to trade and instead they give signals, signals that are not really that good either so if I were you I will stay away from those groups so you don't waste your time.

I understand the keen interest towards these because I have been part of a few as well and found out it was bad and left myself but the best educator is actually doing something and realizing why it is bad rather than just hearing about why it is bad from other people.

We can talk about how that is bad as long as we want and in the end we are going to end up with a big loss no matter what, hence it is not going to be acceptable for OP or anyone who wants to try it out to just hear it from us. Just go join one, and see why we disliked it, but at the very least make sure that you do not spend all of your money on what you hear there so you won't have to start from scratch.

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Quote from: btcslo on September 04, 2022, 05:33:21 AM

I have a question! I am looking for an active messenger or telegram group (other platforms..) of crypto day traders to share information, signals, news...
Do you guys have any suggestions?

Telegram is not a secure platform. Scammers attack Telegram the most. So I think it is better not to take trading signals from Telegram.
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I don't find the issue here is on Telegram, scammers are the problem here, we say it's very easy to create an account on Telegram so anyone can create an account and/or pretend someone and scam other people. Even on what platform, you can encounter these kinds of problem.
People must also learn the basics here like how to spot scams or fishy actions by someone or a group.

A trading signal will not help him to much. if he have not any basic knowledge about trading or if he/she haven’t any basic knowledge how to analyses the the token chart. If he is not aware of these he will not be able to distinguish between genuine and fake signals and this will certainly put him in a grave danger and at some point he will lose his investment by following wrong signals.

It wont be bad on joining those groups as long you are aware on whats happening around or you do see something fishy which it would really be basing up on your own will and judgement.There are lots of free groups

out there which some of them do share up some relevant information and considerable analysis which can be possibly applied into yours and this is where people/trader differs when it comes on being resourceful.

Just dont pay up anything when someone do really ask out on doing so because those trading signals and tips are just pure speculation too and its better to depend on your own
and never ever pay on something like this.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on September 07, 2022, 06:58:16 PM

or maybe none at all. paid groups don't equate to assurance of getting profits. we have no idea where they are getting their info about those signals. so yeah, maybe, most of them are just speculating and basing from rumours.

Paid groups do not guarantee the correctness of their forecasts, since it is simply impossible to do this in the cryptocurrency market. Given this, we can assume that the percentage of correct transactions is approximately the same in paid and free groups.

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If you intend to enter a telegram group for the purpose of day trading i will advise you not to spending your time engaging in such a pointless pastimes as there is no proof that will furnish you with factual data simply because they do not have such a perfect experience to do so in order to succeed in gaining payout. Instead you should just check out several YouTube videos to ensure your planned action will be profitable,.

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