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Quote from: danherbias07 on January 20, 2024, 11:03:00 AM

Quote from: livingfree on January 18, 2024, 04:04:47 PM

As always, a sensitive topic if it's related to religion. It's always about the division of people and beliefs if it's going to be regard on this matter.

The popular opinion is going to be it's always against the teachings of any religion. But anyone can start a religion nowadays and make their own belief that shall be followed by its followers.

But for the peace of mind someone, you do what you want to do without thinking if it's allowed or not. So, basically it is you that's going to judge your actions whether they're good or bad.

It is a sensitive topic because there are so many different religions in the world now. And one religion might not understand the other because of their different beliefs, rules, and other critical writings on their own Bibles.
Correct, it's on us if our actions are good or bad.

It is always going to come up with the idea that each religion has their own base faith and they're not going to agree with their differences and that's why it is a very sensitive topic to talk about.

Quote from: danherbias07 on January 20, 2024, 11:03:00 AM

I do remember one religion where it's prohibited to drink alcohol because it will mess up their mind and they might do bad things afterward or if they get drunk. One of their members is a friend of mine and he still drinks with me. According to him, it's still up to the person if he will control himself or not, sure it's prohibited in their religion but it doesn't really say to not drink at all.
Keep it in moderation. That's his view of the rules that were made. I do believe him because I have never ever seen him do crazy things after we drank the whole night. He is always composed and actually, he is the one taking all our friends back home if they are drunk.
Again, this discussion is critical so I guess it should be up to the person on how he will follow it. Avoid it if there's a chance but if not then keep it under control.

Just like what I have said that it's still going to depend on our judgement whether it's a good action or bad action. And if your faith depends on it or you think that it's fine to do so.

We're all old and grown ups to have that judgement whether a matter is fine or not.

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While I might not necessarily agree that all theories about gambling and religion are inherently contradictory, I understand your point about the fundamental principles at play. Many religions emphasize values like moderation, responsibility, and avoiding harm to oneself or others. Gambling, when approached responsibly and without harm, might not inherently contradict these principles.

However, it's also crucial to acknowledge the potential for gambling to lead to negative consequences, aligning with the religious emphasis on avoiding self-harm. Addiction, financial hardship, and family discord are some potential pitfalls of gambling, and religious teachings often warn against behaviors that could lead down such paths.

Ultimately, the question of whether gambling aligns with one's religious beliefs is a personal one. It's about examining the specific tenets and values of your faith, understanding your own motivations for gambling, and weighing potential consequences against the desired outcome.

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It is a delicate topic, I respect a lot What has to be with religion and with things that are political because there are people who get very Angry when there are others who think differently, it is something that cannot be avoided, 'that's why these issues and o I will only say that if the religion does not allow you to play, then it would be good if they did not do it, since the majority of people who are in the forum and who play are older, of age, if playing brings problems for their Religion it is it is advisable not to do so.

On the Contrary , if they do it and they have to fulfill different Penances , but if they have no other choice, my religion is flexible, I am not a fanatical person either, no, I simply believed that I had a religion and now, I know that it exists. a supreme being who created everything , life and everything , but that Doesn't stop me or Disrespect him if I have Fun , play in a casino or Something, any activity that requires attention, that's why I take advantage.

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There are a lot of conversations in which I don't engage with people unless they bring up the topic. This is as a result of me not knowing which religion they believe in, and I'm also not a hater of any religion. As such, I won't want to get myself involved in any form of conversation that will make it look as if I'm condemning one religion and making mine look more perfect.

Gambling is something of choice, and to me, I feel like anyone can go into it. I have seen some Muslim friends who place bets and are also into crypto. I have also seen some Christian believers who don't engage in any of either.

The thing is, there are many people who are more religious than others, and there are people who take some of their religious teaching to the next level, which to me is up to them, and I don't even see anything wrong with that.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 22, 2024, 12:28:39 PM

Quote from: Westinhome on January 22, 2024, 12:15:34 PM

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Of course, religion is a guide for everyone in carrying out their activities. There are rules and recommendations for people in life. However, people's attitudes and levels of acceptance of the rules imposed by religions vary.
Even if religion prohibits gambling, do those who gamble end up having no religion? just as the government prohibits gambling activities. be it gamblers, or even gambling business people. but the government cannot immediately make people abandon gambling with these regulations. There are even clear written sanctions and punishments for violators.

there is no need to clash religion with gambling. I believe every gambler will eventually come to a time when they will quit gambling.

Of course, every religion prohibits things that can harm oneself or something that tends to have a bad impact on oneself. But there are always people who break these rules and it is very difficult to stop them. Stealing is prohibited in religion, but thieves always exist in this world. Adultery is prohibited in all religions, but many people do it. These are all decisions that have an impact on every individual regardless of religious rules that prohibit it. Of course there are consequences to why it is prohibited, but you can't stop it.

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Quote from: Pandu Geddon on January 22, 2024, 12:28:39 PM

Quote from: Westinhome on January 22, 2024, 12:15:34 PM

Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.

Of course, religion is a guide for everyone in carrying out their activities. There are rules and recommendations for people in life. However, people's attitudes and levels of acceptance of the rules imposed by religions vary.
Even if religion prohibits gambling, do those who gamble end up having no religion? just as the government prohibits gambling activities. be it gamblers, or even gambling business people. but the government cannot immediately make people abandon gambling with these regulations. There are even clear written sanctions and punishments for violators.

there is no need to clash religion with gambling. I believe every gambler will eventually come to a time when they will quit gambling.

It would be better not to link religion with gambling, everyone has a different opinion, what is clearer is that whatever the consequences are, gamblers can accept it even though it is prohibited in religion, not only in Islam, even in Christianity too, there will be many people who violate this rule. You don't need to think too far, even in countries that prohibit gambling, there are still many people who do it, there's no need to lie

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Quote from: Westinhome on January 22, 2024, 12:15:34 PM

Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.

Of course, religion is a guide for everyone in carrying out their activities. There are rules and recommendations for people in life. However, people's attitudes and levels of acceptance of the rules imposed by religions vary.
Even if religion prohibits gambling, do those who gamble end up having no religion? just as the government prohibits gambling activities. be it gamblers, or even gambling business people. but the government cannot immediately make people abandon gambling with these regulations. There are even clear written sanctions and punishments for violators.

there is no need to clash religion with gambling. I believe every gambler will eventually come to a time when they will quit gambling.

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Quote from: maydna on January 22, 2024, 10:45:25 AM

Yes, religion prohibits gambling, but people don't feel that it is prohibited. They feel relaxed when they gamble even though they know that their religion prohibits gambling. They don't want to think about the prohibitions in their religion because all they want to do at that time is enjoy the relaxed atmosphere in their free time. Gambling is a personal matter between humans and God. We also cannot judge people who gamble as sinful because we are also human, even though gambling is prohibited in religion. It will depend on each person's perception of using gambling.

Some of the religion against the gambling not all the religion against the gambling.In more specifically the Islamic religion was against the gambling,many people considered the gambling was against the religion by the Christianity community also.The more faith gamblers were involved in the gambling with trust to make the big money one day.The religious people doesn’t gamble only because of their religious opinion.They also come to know more about the some of the gambling losses,the gamblers who play the random betting in the gambling site will loss their funds for sure.The gambling is most of the time depending on the luck of the gamblers too.

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Quote from: Rabata on January 22, 2024, 05:30:35 AM

No religion supports gambling but some religion strictly observes it and some do not. But despite this restriction, people are very interested in gambling because they try to earn money from home. Some people think that if no one else knows about their gambling then there is no problem in gambling. Moreover, with fiat, a gambler's information can be obtained, but since crypto does not have that possibility, many people have become interested in crypto gambling. People gamble despite religious prohibitions on gambling. It is a personal matter. But there is no doubt that the number of gamblers using crypto has increased a lot. Those who are directly opposed to gambling are now also gambling.

Yes, religion prohibits gambling, but people don't feel that it is prohibited. They feel relaxed when they gamble even though they know that their religion prohibits gambling. They don't want to think about the prohibitions in their religion because all they want to do at that time is enjoy the relaxed atmosphere in their free time. Gambling is a personal matter between humans and God. We also cannot judge people who gamble as sinful because we are also human, even though gambling is prohibited in religion. It will depend on each person's perception of using gambling.

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Quote from: Rabata on January 22, 2024, 05:30:35 AM

No religion supports gambling but some religion strictly observes it and some do not. But despite this restriction, people are very interested in gambling because they try to earn money from home. Some people think that if no one else knows about their gambling then there is no problem in gambling. Moreover, with fiat, a gambler's information can be obtained, but since crypto does not have that possibility, many people have become interested in crypto gambling. People gamble despite religious prohibitions on gambling. It is a personal matter. But there is no doubt that the number of gamblers using crypto has increased a lot. Those who are directly opposed to gambling are now also gambling.

Besides Islam, no religion forbids gambling. When I say forbid I mean that none of their Holy Book states that gambling is forbidden. Islam in the Koran calls in Haram but gambling is not covered in the Bible and some other religious books. However, some religious preachers speak about gambling based on the views or perspectives they have about gambling activity. Some of them base these teachings on public opinion and political views. Most of them will always refer to gambling addiction as the reason why gambling should be forbidden but they fail to acknowledge that there are many responsible gamblers. They also fail to understand that gambling contributes to government revenue and some gambling firms also support the community. I think the focus of these religious teachings should be to discourage gambling addiction and encourage responsible gambling.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 22, 2024, 02:16:46 AM

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Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

I think all religions prohibit gambling but most likely the most harsh one in prohibiting it is Islam.I know people from all religions who are religious and they all say that their religion prohibit gambling,even Buddist people say so.The funny thing is that these persons despite saying like that they used to play even with Fiat money as long as it was online and none of their circle knew about them gambling.Now with crypto is even easier.

No religion supports gambling but some religion strictly observes it and some do not. But despite this restriction, people are very interested in gambling because they try to earn money from home. Some people think that if no one else knows about their gambling then there is no problem in gambling. Moreover, with fiat, a gambler's information can be obtained, but since crypto does not have that possibility, many people have become interested in crypto gambling. People gamble despite religious prohibitions on gambling. It is a personal matter. But there is no doubt that the number of gamblers using crypto has increased a lot. Those who are directly opposed to gambling are now also gambling.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 30, 2023, 02:56:43 PM

So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?

If you are guided by law, religion, haram, crypto gambling, in my view that is a different matter, in my view there is no country in the world where all of the population is Muslim, including those in government.

If you look back and if I'm not mistaken, all religions forbid gambling, whether it's crypto gambling or something else, but even though the law says it's haram, it only applies to those who are religious, we have to realize that, the devil has no other job like humans, the devil only lives in this world specifically to lead people astray, no matter whether they are Muslim, Catholic, Protestant, Hindu, Buddhist and so on.

Those who gamble with money only, don't care about haram, what's more, nowadays crypto is easy to access, of course it's easier for them to carry out gambling activities.

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Quote from: angrybirdy on January 18, 2024, 03:40:51 AM

Do you still doing gambling? By any chance, I just want to know if you donate the money you won to those people who are more in need? since you said that it is stated in your holy qouran that it is haram, and even if you are not a devout muslim, do you still follow what is stated in the qouran? Now I know, that's why I know other muslims who's every time they win, they give away the money they won or they buy important things instead of saving the money itself, maybe you have the same reasons.

Gambling is hard to stop so I'm sure that he still plays it even on rare occasions only, most especially that he is not devout in their religion (as you said). If we have a soft heart, helping people is one of our things, especially if we have more money than usual. In some religions, the act of gambling is forbidden but maybe not if you will only receive a gambling winning. It's also another reason on why he is giving his winnings.

If I'm a poor person living on that country, I will still see it as a help and I will gladly accept it. If it's allowed to buy an item immediately, this will also be the first choice of the gamblers who are not that caring about the others.

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Quote from: alani123 on December 30, 2023, 02:56:43 PM

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So what do you think about this? Does gambling with crypto mean that laws about gambling being Haram don't apply all the time?
I was thinking that of crypto is earned outside of one's regular job, for example as a reward for activities such as bounties or sweepstakes, then maybe gambling with these earnings insta Haram?

I don't think there is any excuse for the Muslim faithful to gamble. Gambling is forbidden in Islam as I know and I believe the faithful should adhere to that unless they just want to set the religion aside and do as they like. No controversy about this, it is plain, so any Muslim doing it must know that they are not completely being faithful to the religion. Well, we have our lives to live, what really matters is a good life you live that is void of evil and selfishness, once that is done, I know that God can't forsake you, religion or not.

Nevertheless, in plain terms, a core Muslim person will not gamble, but it is your choice to be a core Muslim or not.

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These concepts are interesting to me because most Christian people like me, while having our religion dictate that gambling is a very serious sin, most do it anyway. Basically most christians aren't very pious at all and don't follow religion rules at least in my experience. So using loopholes to circumvent religious rules when your country even endorsed certain casinos isn't needed that much. So it's interesting to observe these differences.

I think Christians are bending things due to the better grace and freedom we have more than Muslims. Even with that, all I know is that the religion forbids you to do anything that will hurt you or hurt you. If gambling is hurting you, you should let go so that it will not become a sin to you.

I am not saying that I know the Bible more than anyone here, nonetheless, I will still be glad if someone can point to a place in the Bible where it is said emphatically that we should not gamble.

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Quote from: swogerino on January 22, 2024, 02:16:46 AM

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Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

I think all religions prohibit gambling but most likely the most harsh one in prohibiting it is Islam.I know people from all religions who are religious and they all say that their religion prohibit gambling,even Buddist people say so.The funny thing is that these persons despite saying like that they used to play even with Fiat money as long as it was online and none of their circle knew about them gambling.Now with crypto is even easier.

All religions must teach goodness and prevent badness. I am not talking here about Islam or other religions. surely all teachings teach like that.
But whether it's the person who doesn't really listen or defects from religious teachings, it depends on each person.
fortunately they are still not too familiar with crypto, maybe only a cursory knowledge of what bitcoin is. but if they already know more about it and recognize gambling with crypto, it will definitely be even more crowded in the world of gambling in the crypto world.

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Religious philosophy can't cover every single situation in life. There will always be some grey areas when something isn't explicitly forbidden. Christians will have different opinions on whether it is acceptable to gamble depending on which branch of Christianity they follow. The Bible doesn't specifically mention whether gambling is a sin. Making a friendly wager might be fine but when it becomes an addiction that negatively impacts your life, that is a problem regardless of your faith. Whether gambling is considered sinful concerns you enough, then you should seek advice from experts in your religion.

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Quote from: PokerBetting on January 21, 2024, 11:31:56 PM

Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

I think all religions prohibit gambling but most likely the most harsh one in prohibiting it is Islam.I know people from all religions who are religious and they all say that their religion prohibit gambling,even Buddist people say so.The funny thing is that these persons despite saying like that they used to play even with Fiat money as long as it was online and none of their circle knew about them gambling.Now with crypto is even easier.

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Gambling is still haram, whether crypto gambling or regular gambling, if someone plays it can be considered a sin even if he gives the money to charity. But even so, there are still many Muslim brothers who gamble because they think that it is the best way for them to earn money quickly, especially in developing countries where many people's incomes are below standard. They have the idea that doubling their money in gambling is not a big deal and later they can give alms, pray or make sacrifices to make up for it. It's a little sad and funny to see that, but it's a fact that happened.

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Perhaps the only religion that prohibits gambling is Islam. other than that, it seems that other religions do not really prohibit gambling.
What's more, gambling is online and only uses crypto currency so if you want to gamble, no one will blame you legally. only religiously, even then, only Islam prohibits gambling.
but for the crypto currency itself there is no problem. like money wants to be used for sin or good things, it depends on the user.

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Quote from: Hirose UK on January 21, 2024, 02:30:20 AM

Firstly, if you just say and relate to various activities which according to all religious teachings are prohibited and haram then it is clear that many of these prohibitions are violated and are not really cared about.
Not only gambling, but consuming alcoholic drinks, free sex, and narcotics are all prohibited for all existing religions because religion teaches virtue and also the philosophy of living with love for God and carrying out the various recommended religions.
But in reality, many people violate all of this out of mere satisfaction and of course this is mistake if it is judged using religious teachings and regulations prohibiting religious people.
We can only remain good people by not harming other people, even if we do some prohibitions, but if it doesn't harm other people then just do it because whatever the consequences, only we ourselves will accept it.
If you really think it all mistake that needs to be fixed then leave everything behind, never try again to do anything that is clearly prohibited.

We live in modern times and when many religious prohibitions are violated it has become habit that cannot be avoided.
In gambling, we ourselves decide to start and if we can't accept it then just do what we think is right.

If we pay attention, there are many activities carried out by humans that are prohibited by religion but still do them for many reasons. It's the choice of each person who does it, and it seems like they already know it, but they don't stop doing it. We also can't force them to stop doing it because it is their choice to keep doing it, and they like it, so they still do it. Yes, we can only be good people who do not harm others or disturb others. As long as we don't harm each other, everything will be fine, and if a problem arises later because of what each of us does, it will be our responsibility, so we must be able to find a solution to solve the problem. Maybe later, they will realize what they did was wrong and try to stop what they thought was wrong. It takes awareness from them to know that it is wrong and just let them do what they want to do.

We admit that many religious prohibitions have been violated. We must reduce violating these prohibitions by being good people towards others. Later, we will be given the awareness to admit that what we did was wrong and try to change it.

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