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Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

I can't blame you for looking some group or community that you think will gonna help you improve your trading. Ive been there, done that. But, I still rely and depend on myself. If you as a newbie wanted to learn, you can follow some of the bitcoin enthusiasts in twitter, joined some tg channels but you should not depend on them and gain more ideas by yourself.

Improvements and success will always be depends on you. How you implicate your learnings and how your mistakes be as your guide to your future success. There's no problem joining to those trading groups but be careful because some are just created the group to pick a victim.

Common mistake is that some people are just relying too much just because theyre lazy to learn up things for themselves thats why they do made out this kind of option.
Its not that new that as a noob we do most likely to have this kind of mindset on where we do seek up much simplier ways to be profitable thats why when we do able
to see some people who do made it out then its just normal for us to be amazed and do think that they would able to help our trading career to be more simplier
but sooner or later, you would realize on your self that things will really be ended up to you, all of your actions and result will vary on how you do handle out yourself
towards trading on your own.You can use others idea but doesnt mean that it will also work for you thats why you would need to find out.

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Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

Much appreciation in advance !

I know that it is attractive to think that you can earn money on the markets by just receiving signals and avoid doing the hard work of learning by yourself but things do not work like that, if you use a little bit of logic you will see that unless you are friends with a successful trader then most likely you are not going to have any chance of finding someone that will do that for you as knowing when and what to trade is information that is too valuable to give away for free.

these pumpndump groups are like cancer in crypto community! you know why? because they are taking advantage of these unsuspecting users that will follow their signals. thats right! the owners are the only ones making profit out of this.
i tried joining pnd groups before just to see how they are strategising their announcement to their followers. and came to learn that they will give you the signal a bit late so what will happen is - you are buying the peak (which more then likely are the owners' sell order) and now the price starts to go down and you are in a situation where you are confused - whether to sell off or hodl. this is the reason why some followers ended up hodling worthless coins.
so to the OP, be wise! better do your own trading and not join these crap pnd groups.

The worst part is that some pumps get so big that despite the owners of the pump and dump group selling their coins the price keeps going up and this gives the impression to some people that do not understand how this works that this is a legitimate way to trade as many people still got profits out of this and that they only need to be fast enough, when the truth is that even the organizers of the pump and dump are surprised by this turn of events, but this plays to their advantage as the ones that earned money will vouch for them and will join them the next time they do this guaranteeing another round of profits for them in the future.

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Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

I can't blame you for looking some group or community that you think will gonna help you improve your trading. Ive been there, done that. But, I still rely and depend on myself. If you as a newbie wanted to learn, you can follow some of the bitcoin enthusiasts in twitter, joined some tg channels but you should not depend on them and gain more ideas by yourself.

Improvements and success will always be depends on you. How you implicate your learnings and how your mistakes be as your guide to your future success. There's no problem joining to those trading groups but be careful because some are just created the group to pick a victim.

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Someone made a good point here, if you check the second comment. Your main focus should be on understanding the basics of everything cryptocurrency before you start talking about cryptocurrency. You should know the difference between a private wallet and an exchange, and where you’re meant to be storing your coins to avoid stories that touch. So start with the basic.

It’s just like when I started, it took me years before I decided to start trading , it wasn’t something I rushed into. Even at this time I am still taking it easy, everything is step by step and you don’t rush it or you will lose. Just take time and learn everything for yourself. Instead of this searching for inner circle that doesn’t exist, you can make use of copy trading to help you earn with time.

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Newbie trader should not listen or ask for any signal or trading advice, you should ask on how to trade properly and what ate the things that you need to learn in order for you not to lose money in trading.

I don’t recommend any Pump and Dump group, there are some group that discuss things about trading and its better to join with them. If someone ask you to trade specific token, don’t follow it if you want to save your money from losses. Learn to trade mate, don’t think for an easy money or a real quick rich scheme this is not true.

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Quote from: Shasha80 on October 07, 2020, 06:48:48 PM

If you are new to the world of crypto trading, you should avoid joining the trading P&D group, because if you join I make sure you will
lose all the capital you have. Because such groups will only use you for their own benefit. I said this, because I've experienced it and
I don't want other people to experience the same thing as me. My advice is that you should study first to find out basic knowledge about
trading, instead of practicing right away by joining the P&D group.

Much better if we study trading together with peers and personal friend whom you can trust with. Other groups specially online friends that you don't actually meet in person can't be trusted, and worst cases resulted into scammer.
You can rely on the actual graph and not with a person's prediction, because that doesn't provide us accurate data compared with real time market trend. However, if we can handle trading in a smarter way I guess your deepest experience would rather give you the whole knowledge about it.

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There are tons of large P&D groups in social media with free entry or for a small fees but I strongly advise staying away from ideas to trade based on the info from these types of groups. These traders buy before you and they dump their heavy bags on the later buyers who heard the news from social media. In short, they sell fake and biased data to you. Some private groups have a better performance compared to the free groups but DYOR has to be done before joining.

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If you are new to the world of crypto trading, you should avoid joining the trading P&D group, because if you join I make sure you will
lose all the capital you have. Because such groups will only use you for their own benefit. I said this, because I've experienced it and
I don't want other people to experience the same thing as me. My advice is that you should study first to find out basic knowledge about
trading, instead of practicing right away by joining the P&D group.

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Quote from: South Park on October 07, 2020, 11:57:27 AM

Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

Much appreciation in advance !

I know that it is attractive to think that you can earn money on the markets by just receiving signals and avoid doing the hard work of learning by yourself but things do not work like that, if you use a little bit of logic you will see that unless you are friends with a successful trader then most likely you are not going to have any chance of finding someone that will do that for you as knowing when and what to trade is information that is too valuable to give away for free.

these pumpndump groups are like cancer in crypto community! you know why? because they are taking advantage of these unsuspecting users that will follow their signals. thats right! the owners are the only ones making profit out of this.
i tried joining pnd groups before just to see how they are strategising their announcement to their followers. and came to learn that they will give you the signal a bit late so what will happen is - you are buying the peak (which more then likely are the owners' sell order) and now the price starts to go down and you are in a situation where you are confused - whether to sell off or hodl. this is the reason why some followers ended up hodling worthless coins.
so to the OP, be wise! better do your own trading and not join these crap pnd groups.

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Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

Much appreciation in advance !

I know that it is attractive to think that you can earn money on the markets by just receiving signals and avoid doing the hard work of learning by yourself but things do not work like that, if you use a little bit of logic you will see that unless you are friends with a successful trader then most likely you are not going to have any chance of finding someone that will do that for you as knowing when and what to trade is information that is too valuable to give away for free.

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The P&D group is only a group of people who want to get rich quick without trying. they are also only used by the owner of the group. Group owners are only concerned with their own profit by first buying the coins to pump. If you still believe in the group then just wait for the losses that will occur. I just remind you, because there have been many victims due to the P&D group. It's better if you are a beginner, learning the basics of trading is more useful, try to trade yourself with various techniques that you can find on YouTube with a small amount of capital to start trading.

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Quote from: ChrisPop on October 06, 2020, 01:33:06 PM

@trueherobtc Look, man.. An advice from a humble wolf: Don't take the shortcut to wealth. It is not worth it. You embark into a caroussel that will waste your time and steer your emotions like nothing else. Put in the work - that is my advice for you.

If you want to trade, do it on your own: follow a course, learn the craft, practice and make your own decisions based on your knowledge and experience. The process is more important than the destination. These are not vain words, but learned from my life journey.

Its a must thing and its not really ideal for you to rely upon on these pump and dump groups and from the word itself it is just too risky for someone to join up without prior knowledge.

Its much worth if you do just trade on your own and don't rely into any groups when it comes to your trading activity.There are lots of groups already existed but

majority of them are just created for the sake of ripping off those noobs who do believe about easy pumps or price increase.

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@trueherobtc Look, man.. An advice from a humble wolf: Don't take the shortcut to wealth. It is not worth it. You embark into a caroussel that will waste your time and steer your emotions like nothing else. Put in the work - that is my advice for you.

If you want to trade, do it on your own: follow a course, learn the craft, practice and make your own decisions based on your knowledge and experience. The process is more important than the destination. These are not vain words, but learned from my life journey.

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Quote from: trueherobtc on September 29, 2020, 02:52:40 AM

Hello guys,
I am a bit new to crypto currency in the trading word, i wanted to see if anyone had a trading call inner circle that is legit ? I know there is a few out there but not sure who to trust.

Much appreciation in advance !

There is nothing like an inner trading circle in public domain. There are just rumours and some money looting idiots. What generally happens with P& D group is they will have two groups one for the free public and second for the private public second one obviously being paid. So they build up their free telegram group usually with help of couple of other groups then all they do is first buy the coin themselves then send the coin in the private group which increase the price and then send the same news in public group. This generally gives the private group users 3-4% of return and that too not in every coin many a times you might buy a coin and it's price would never increase. Only person in profit is the one on the top of the chain. So there is nothing like inner circle. If there is you surely won't find about it in a post of Bitcointalk or on Telegram.

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Is P and D means something else than what I think it means? I thought it meant pump and dump and if it doesn't mean that there are bunch of groups in telegram and other social media places where people move together and share their ideas. However if it really means pump and dump I would highly suggest that as a newbie you should not be looking at them.

I understand that as a newbie you assumed "there are secret groups that do not take people inside and if you can just get in they all use their money to pump something and fake the market and sell to get rich all together" yet that is not true. What we have in pump and dump groups is "people who start groups, tell everyone to wait, buy a coin themselves a lot, tell everyone to buy the same coin, and when everyone buys the owners get out and others get out after that which causes them to lose money".

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If you are expecting that there's a group that will certainly give you a "signal" of when to buy and sell, give yourself a favor of not believing with them.
We have already a community that can exchange thoughts and ideas of the market and it's for free. Those private or VIP trading groups are only making money from someone like you who's thinking that it's worth paying them just to be in.

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Don't fall for P&D traps as you'll get hit someday badly when they will just start dumping on you to get their money doubled or even more. Don't let your innocence be cheated.

This is just the facts, those like myself that have fallen victim to this scam can share their experience with you. First they make you feel as if you're winning then you rely totally on them that's when they begin manipulating the calls to only favor themselves. They hire users constantly posting testimony on the group on how their calls has impacted their trading life which are just fake stories.

If you're smart and find yourself in any of this group it's best to exit after immediately or after some while, there are some that just scam any user wanting to upgrade their membership to paid channel and the worst is that you don't learn anything new from this pump and dump groups.

With trading personally, when you make the wrongs calls you learn and better your strategy to avoid repeated incident but that can't be said with signal providers.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 04, 2020, 05:31:37 PM

And yeah, it's not a P&D group at all. Wink

Never forget to be careful though, sometimes the calls made by these guys are causing the pump, and when it reach certain ATH some people till take profit which will cause the "dump" to happen. Whether it was intended by these guys or not, it does not really matter. Slowly but surely, people who follow his calls will probably start buying as soon as a new call was dropped without doing proper research.

I've been following a few guys like him who made good calls, and I'm seeing the same thing over and over again. Not their faults since fomo can't be stopped.

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It is not trading because people just expect to wait for the pump and dump coming, so they follow the market moves. But for your information, that will need more things before you can follow that P&D group because they can manipulate the price, and they can also move the price instantly. If you don't move fast, I am afraid you will not profit, but you can buy the coin at a high price. I have the experience to follow on that group in the past, but I always have to buy or sell the coin, and once I buy at a very higher price, it makes me hold the coin for some time. I suggest you stay away from that group, and it is better you learn trading from many sources available on the internet. Once you have the skills to trade, you can analyze any coin you want to find which coin can profit.

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Quote from: Stedsm on October 04, 2020, 05:31:37 PM

If you are new to trading, you should follow Blockchain Whispers on their official telegram channel @blockchainwhispersbaby
You will gain lots of free information as well as knowledge about cryptocurrencies and even some free calls (he gave BZRX call when none of us even knew about it and made over 80x with that coin).

One must be aware, however, that they do not publish the calls out of pure friendliness but earn a lot of money from them. Before a call the following happens:

The people behind the group accumulate the coins slowly over weeks. "Slowly" to avoid pushing the price too high in before the call.
If their accumulation goal is reached, the "secret call" is published to their follower
Now of course a lot of people jump, hoping for quick profits. The signal giver(s) now immediately sell their coins to their followers and leave those who sell too late with massive losses.

Such "calls" always include coins with very little market cap so that even small amounts of BTC can push the price up.
I don't know the mentioned "Blockchain Whispers", but no matter if its a telegram group with calls, an influencer on youtube or people like McAfee, the process is always the same.

By the way, McAfee was now arrested among other things also for the following reason:

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The Securities and Exchange Commission has also sued McAfee for not disclosing that he was paid to promote initial coin offerings (ICOs) on Twitter from December 2018 to January 2018, despite allegedly being paid more than $23 million in Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency Ether to do so

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