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May 22, 2016, 07:53:35 AM
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 Lisk CEO explains differences between their product and Ethereum
http://ethereum.stackexchange.com/questions/2104/how-does-lisk-differ-from-ethereum/3176#3176

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The range of clients at Ethereum in Go, C++, Python, JavaScript, Java and other languages is a support disaster. Right now it may work OK, but once Ethereum attracts a critical mass there will be 1 (or maybe 2) clients which will be used by 99% of the users. Otherwise, it's just not feasible.

You also say that Ethereum is trying to appeal a wide range of developers. Lisk tends to focus on the JavaScript group

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In Lisk you get a complete package. You don't develop single smart contracts. You build an entire application which is running on its own blockchain.

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May 20, 2016, 10:56:54 PM
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Re: Max, Lisk Founder, to talk with Edward Snowden LOCKED
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14908480

Quote from: Minecache on May 20, 2016, 10:37:44 AM
LISK is a major major scam. Remember it's by the Cryptsy crooks and a failed cold fusion web developer. Stay out folks.

Lisk, IOTA, Ethereum, and Waves are all permissioned ledger IPO cash grab scams. 

Blame Come from Beyond and his cronies for starting the Cambrian explosion of IPO scams with NXT. 

Now we are beginning to reach the point of peak IPO scam and they will cause the altcoin market to implode.
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May 20, 2016, 01:51:36 PM
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re: general picture

QUIDS : btc, eth, ltc, doge, (dash, xrp, stellar)
2.0: daDAO, xem, bts, nxt, lsk-Dapp, xcp, omni
s.0.v. blk Q un rdd xcp
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May 02, 2016, 04:46:22 AM
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ETH

https://daohub.org/curator.html
https://daohub.org/proposals.html
The DAO’s community gives it purpose and direction by approving or declining plain English Proposals backed by smart contract code aimed at building products or services for the benefit of its members.
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April 30, 2016, 01:08:33 AM
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Nxt 2.0
Nxt 2.0 short description:

- There is a new main blockchain called fNXT, used only for forging and simple transactions (without involving assets). So this is meant to be a much smaller blockchain than actually.
- NXT and all MS Currencies will be child chains from fNXT.
- The child chains are pruneable, although every full node owner can opt to keep all transactions forever ("archival nodes").
- Assets will be global and it will be possible to trade them with each "child" currency, not only NXT. I think also asset-to-asset-trading was meant to be possible this way.

Advantages:
- Better scalability, because of the smaller disk space requirement for simple (not-archival) full nodes.
- important: MS currency transactions pay their fees in their own currency, not in NXT. That will make them much more usable than today.
- Asset trading to MS currencies and other assets (?)

Disadvantages:
- The fNXT chain needs a new auxiliary currency. The plan is to distribute it among NXT holders, but not asset holders. So asset holders are the main opposing group to the 2.0 plans because they won't get fNXT when NXT 2.0 is launched. There is still discussion about this issue.
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April 28, 2016, 04:51:26 AM
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LISK
I've been doing some diligence on this project and seeing if there is any overlap in my personal and my company's goals and LISKs. Max and Oliver seem to be nice guys. I haven't examined the code yet nor have a deep understanding of their goals, the protocol and the overall risks.

I can maybe add a little bit.  I have spoken with Max on a few occasions and he seems like a nice guy (as CH said).  

As for the code, Max told me it is pretty much bitshares 1.0 with all the advantages and disadvantages this brings. They also apparently are planning for javascript to be a big part as well, which might prove pretty cool for connecting blockchains to web in a way that opens it up to more devs in the space. When I told him about Graphene he didn't know much about it (Graphene is essentially bitshares 2.0).  

I hope this gives a little more insight.  I know it is not much but perhaps with a few more comments adding details that haven't been covered will give everyone a clearer picture. Smiley

btw, good to see you still nerding around in crypto Charles.  Hope all is well.

charleshoskinson
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April 28, 2016, 01:12:00 AM
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fNXT  (theory)

fNXT will be the main blockchain. The NXT currency will not be an asset, but a "child chain". Child chains are transaction ledgers like the main block chain, but these transactions will only included in the main chain if there is someone who pays a fNXT fee and bundles them with the main chain (so-called "bundlers"). The bundlers get the fees in the child chain currency. So a NXT bundler who creates a "child chain block" (which is a special kind of fNXT transaction) gets all NXT fees from the transactions in this block.

As I understood it, the child chains will be the actual Monetary System (MS) Currencies, while assets will be available in all child chains and can be traded for every other MS currency. Assets will not be child chains but a separate category.

fNXT will be used mainly for forging, and only basic transactions are possible with this chain, no asset trading or other fancy things.

There are two very important advantages with respect to the current system:
- Actual MS currency transactions must pay fees in NXT.  In NXT 2.0, MS currency users can pay transaction fees in their own currency.
- The child chains will be pruneable, only the fNXT main blockchain not. So the blockchain as a whole will be way smaller than actually. Archival nodes can opt to save the whole blockchain data. But for ordinary NXT users it will be way easier to maintain a node, and the scalability problem would be largely solved.
- I am not sure, but I think I read that this design will allow also direct asset-to-asset trading and trading of assets with MS currencies.

Well, these are more than 2 paragraphs, but perhaps now it's a bit easier to understand.

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April 28, 2016, 01:06:35 AM
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April 28, 2016, 12:18:59 AM
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Steallar  airdrop

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/stellar-give-away-19-billion-lumens-bitcoin-holders-1556899

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Stellar.org, the non-profit technology provider aiming to connect financial institutions using consensus-based cryptography, has announced it will be giving away 19 billion of the network's native currency, lumens, to holders of bitcoin.

The lumens will be distributed in several rounds, said Stellar CTO Jed McCaleb in a blog post. The first round will include three billion lumens, and will follow a snapshot of all coin balances taken on 4 July. The lumens, which constitute 19% of the initial lode in existence, will be distributed in proportion to how much bitcoin individuals are holding. On 5 July Stellar will publish a claim page, allowing bitcoin holders to verify that they control a given bitcoin address and send that address's share of lumens to a Stellar account.

So Stellar.org would be building a database of who controls which wallet and can then track where those funds have come from (and where they are going).  It takes the Anonymous out of Crypto - No?

Sounds good ..the rich get richer...

You got a lot of btc you will be given a lot of free lumens... sounds fair.



http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/stellar-give-away-19-billion-lumens-bitcoin-holders-1556899

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Stellar.org, the non-profit technology provider aiming to connect financial institutions using consensus-based cryptography, has announced it will be giving away 19 billion of the network's native currency, lumens, to holders of bitcoin.

The lumens will be distributed in several rounds, said Stellar CTO Jed McCaleb in a blog post. The first round will include three billion lumens, and will follow a snapshot of all coin balances taken on 4 July. The lumens, which constitute 19% of the initial lode in existence, will be distributed in proportion to how much bitcoin individuals are holding. On 5 July Stellar will publish a claim page, allowing bitcoin holders to verify that they control a given bitcoin address and send that address's share of lumens to a Stellar account.

ok, let me translate this.

it is practically saying you give us your information about how much bitcoin you own and in what addresses and we don't say what we are going to do with all that information that we gather from all the users. i remember they did a similar thing with gathering social media info like facebook when they gave out stellar too.

then it says if you are a rich person, a whale if you will, we are going to give you more money because you are rich, to make you richer.


personally i think this is a crappy idea because if you want to spread the coin, then do a giveaway or do it as prize for contribution or something or start spreading it on reddit or bitcointalk not this way.

Stellar to give away 19 billion lumens to bitcoin holders
Initial distribution of stellar (now lumens) was using facebook accounts as sign ups.  Overseas facebook account collectors whom use the accounts to sell friends, likes, etc. made out well becoming the whales of the stellar community whom obviously sold all their easy stellars to currency.  Now Jed is going to give them to Bitcoin owners who will obviously sell all their lumens for bitcoin.  Expect the price to drop.

Then you have Ripple (professionals that know profit), no longer controlled by Jed, about to distribute in a much more meaningful way.  Distribution will go to market makers who hold orders which in return provides better spreads, more liquidity, and a more stable coin.

Jed is a GENIUS PROGRAMMER but when it comes to business his choices are always the same.... e-Donkey and Mt. Gox.  Profitless failures.
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April 25, 2016, 10:37:48 AM
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eth v xcp

Nobody needs Counterparty

Counterparty was launched around the start of 2014 and is one of the Crypto 2.0 platforms that runs on top of Bitcoin. Their notable feature that sets them apart from most other Crypto 2.0 platforms is their reliance of Proof-of-Burn to issue their currency. The platform offers decentralized exchange between XCP, BTC, and user created assets, although no direct asset-asset exchange, as well as some financial contracts. Their most notable and active assets include LTBCoin, Gemz and BitCrystals

http://tpbit.blogspot.ca/2016/04/nobody-needs-counterparty-discussion-on.html
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brighton36 [score hidden] 52 minutes ago

This article is silly in a bunch of ways. But rather than write a long winded reply, I can sum up the principle reason this is a dumb response: Counterparty's mining is performed by bitcoin miners.

Piachu seems to believe burning energy is a benevolent process, and people will mine because they want to be different. Counterparty believes mining is a scarce and expensive resource, for which people will only burn energy if they have to.

Since Counterparty relies on Bitcoin, and bitcoin is a technology for whom energy is burned because of actual need (ie they're underserved), counterparty doesn't have to deal with need-based issues of Ethereum(who doesnt serve the underserved).

It's not complicated, and it's not a long-winded explanation of user preferences to "think different". It's simple economics that piachu continually fails to grasp because he thinks blockchains are a computer science innovation and not an economic innovation.


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April 23, 2016, 07:16:03 AM
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damning underbelly of "Anon" tech

The elephant in the room is monetary properties, not technical ones. It's very simple, for tier 1 monetary assets:

Good crypto = Public Blockchains
Bad Crypto = Obscrued Blockchains

For higher order tiers (backed money, e.g. Bitcoin CT), obscured blockchains are acceptable.

So you should therefore be discussing the merits of Good/Bad crypto within the domain of Public Blockchains explicitly or Good/Bad crypto within the domain of Obscured Blockchains explicitly since they are distinct monetary domains and obscured blockchains do not have any native (unbacked) monetary properties in the first place - even if it is "good crypto".
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April 21, 2016, 12:37:51 PM
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DEX _btc
https://bitsquare.io/
Bitsquare is built for those who:

    Want to exchange a national currency such as dollars, euros, or yen for bitcoin.
    Want to exchange a wide range of alternative crypto currencies for bitcoin.
    Do not want to trust any exchange for holding your funds.
    Do not want to forfeit control or privacy to a central authority in order to trade with other individuals.
    Regard financial transactions as a form of private speech that should be protected from surveillance by banks, governments, and other institutions.

Bitsquare is designed to be:

    Decentralized – there is no single point of failure.
    Safe – Bitsquare never holds your funds.
    Instantly accessible – no need for approval from a central authority.
    Private -no one except trading partners exchange personally identifying data.
    Open – every aspect of the project is transparent.
    Easy – we take usability seriously.
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April 21, 2016, 12:08:39 PM
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XCR
Isnt there talk of Lisk Burning the crypti donations? in this sense wouldnt crypti's value begin to gain?

In principle you are right. but it's not all about scarceness, the XCR development basically does not exist anymore


Is there something concrete from the former developers, heard the led-dev want to make a new project, what happened with the other people involved, are they all at LISK now?

I dont think XCR will have a better future after Lisk comes out.

I'm pretty sure it wont...traders now are the few who are not aware of recent development and were sucked in to the last rally, may god save their souls.
Whats preventing some other devs to take over?

Lack of interest

https://cryptichain.lisk.io/networkMonitor
https://cryptichain.lisk.io/activityGraph
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April 21, 2016, 10:00:29 AM
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April 21, 2016, 09:44:44 AM
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Stellar/XRP peer

https://xnftrading.com/#!/
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Nofiatcoin's gateway, XNFTrading.com, is now supporting nine major currencies. Users can now access the ripple network or buy XNF with USD, EUR, HKD, ZNY, AUD, NZD, GBP, JPY, and SGP

https://www.facebook.com/jetcoins
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April 21, 2016, 06:10:22 AM
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premine LISTed

LISK Lisk ICO 100% premined *from the people behind Crypti (considered to be a scam) Now is calling itself a partner of Microsoft , CEO has 2 failed cryptos (both ICOs) behind him, no dev history, 14079 BTC "donated" in their ICO (official target was 4000BTC). uses misleading marketing and shady escrow (2 german guys, no proof they are real third party that can be trusted by investors) attempting to get 4000BTC as their target, claims they won't be able to touch it as its escrowed but no reason to trust the 2 guys behind escrow.  Actual wallet starts out as clone of Crypti their previous scamcoin.

ETH Etherium ICO + hidden dev premine = 60M (ICO) (+ secret 12M coins = 72M premined) premine is over 95% of current supply  (03/16), meaning PoW produced makes up less than 5% of current ETH, 13M annual inflation from mining with no hard cap (unlimited coins)  somewhat centralized as no consensus system exists to accept or protect it from changes .  requires trust that devs wont make undesired changes.  example of recent change in hard fork is increase x2 in ETH fees for smart contracts

EXP Expanse (Clone of Ethereum) premine = 11M coins "reserved", 10% of initial supply or 100,000 coins "devs" gave/unlocked for themselves.

NEU Neucoin ICO Premined premine = 2.5 Billion coins (presale is 0.1 Billion from this to public); aka "CoinTelegraph Coin" because of their involvement in this scam and abuse of their position as a news source (and of cute squirrels) to promote it. they went as far to display a misleading price ticker for neucoin which showed at the top of every page. Appears to have been removed after cryptsy shutdown

NAUT NautilusCoin 1% premined (Was usual PoW based altcoin, Now takeover is a 100% premined 1:1 swap rebranded "drachmae" a NXT asset coin, dev has not made it clear what happen to unredeem drachmae(extra couple million coins))

NXT ICO (BitcoinTalk) premined 100% insecure, uses unsafe brainwallets and java based.  possible trademark theft as the dev used NXT name that is used by other companies to trick users into beliveing an association exists where there is none.  They will not like their name being stolen and misused to promote a shady cryptocurrency.  Its recommended to  AVOID this outdated garbage as superior alternatives now exist for both asset issurance & decentalized exchange.  If you do use it ensure its isolated and has no access to sensitive infomation, use a highly complex and unguessable passphrase, if it can be cracked then anyone anywhere the world can take your funds instantly.

VOX VOXELS IPO/ICO 100% Premined  Devs sold 5% 1.2 M coins and claim to have taken in 1,022 BTC / $350,000 USD in a private presale. then followed this with a 33M Public ICO  higher price with tiers. Restricted  withdrawals on its only exchange Uphold.  Another XPY GAW scam?

WARP Warp ICO (30BTC) 100% Premined supply of 1,094,500 coins distributed to 122 buyers.  PoS Only.

XRP Ripple 100% Premined
STR Stellar 100% Premined

ZRC ZiftrCoin premine = 4.5% 450M coins,  likely also a scam -  from ANN "When spent in Ziftr’s merchant network, each ziftrCOIN will have a minimum redemption value of $1."

XCR Crypti ICO 100% Premined - 25% reesrved for devs in addition to ICO

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