Topic: CryptoBetfair.com | 100% Provably Fair | More than a casino, a community. - page 7. (Read 35188 times)

I enjoy your site guys, don't feel pressured, take your time. The most important thing in BTC gambling is trust & transparency. I think it's a really good thing that you're taking your time & checking everything is 100%.
The best sites build slowly, your userbase will increase gradually, I'm excited about you guys. I will be waiting in anticipation for the major new program release, just going to follow you on twitter now. Good luck & well done to everybody involved in your site & development.

Thanks. We plan on adding more games ASAP.  Its a slow process tho, making sure that everything we release is good quality, secure, and fully responsive.  Our max bets are a little low on some coins right now, because we dont use customers funds for our bankroll.  We take the risk ourselves, and our bank is filled with real coins.  I think they will rise very fast as people get to know us.

We also have a major program coming soon.  Follow us at  https://twitter.com/CryptoBetFair  to hear about it first.

Hello everyone.  Many people know me from back when BTC was in its infancy and I could be considered by some to be a 'whale' although I don't really think so.  I was a huge supporter of WorldCoin (at one time I had over $60K USD worth of it).  I've known the guys that run this site since it was wdcspin.com, years ago.  I've made many bets (look at the leaderboards or the bet history to see for yourself) and these are stand up guys running a legit site.  Since playing on cryptobetfair, I'm up over 40,000 WDC the last time that I checked.

While the house does have an edge, there are proven methods to beat the odds.  I've been very successful using a modified martingale betting system on both the spin and drop games.  This only works because the site is 100% provably fair and statistics are on your side until max bet is reached.  There are definitely times that you will lose, but I must say, for me to lose now after being up so much, it is unlikely and the games are truly addictive to play once you are winning.  I don't mind explaining the betting system that I use, since you can see it in action by watching the bet history when I play.  For those that are interested, this is the method that I use:

In a normal martingale system, you double your bet on a loss and reset to the initial bet after a win.  I tried this for a while and it worked ok, but was not ideal.

What I do is triple my bet on a loss of anything other than 0X, and quadruple my bet on 0X losses.  If a 1.25X win occurs, I reduce next bet amount by 4X, otherwise if a larger win is hit, reset to initial bet.  The key is to start the bet small enough to not reach the max bet often.  When max bet is reached, I've had success either max betting until I reach the previous balance or limiting max bet to 3 or 4 times and then resetting to the initial bet.

Site looks pretty solid. Do you guys plan on increasing the max profit any time soon? Other than that I think you've done a pretty nice job. What are your long term plans in terms of games - do you want to focus on being a dice site, or rather a bitcoin casino site?

cryptobetfair. where the balls are deep.

No doubt I gave it back instead of withdrawing.

It's a mad, mad life when you roll $30 deep on single bets!!!

+1 hard to believe

could you post a txid to show you withdrawing that amount. it's hard to believe yr grand sum is legit.

As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.

Verifier hosted on triangles.technology updated to the latest version:

https://cbf.triangles.technology/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize

I was hoping that someone would ask us about this! Thank you!  Our provable fair system is what we are most proud of, and we LOVE talking about it. Seriously, we love it.  Stop by our chat any time, but I will attempt to explain it here.



I can see how you might have missed this, but I believe that we made it very easy for "humans" to verify every bet, ever made on our site. Check here...






You can click on any bet ID and get this information. Pretty simple for "human verification". This verifier (program that does all the complicated checking for you) is hosted on our site, as well as 2 other peoples servers that are not associated with cryptobetfair. Some could argue that’s not good enough, because we could conspire with these other people to cheat, and produce false information in the verifier. That’s not an issue... Here is our verifier!

https://cryptobetfair.com/d/i/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize

We would be happy for anyone to host this for us. The more people that host, the better! We welcome and encourage anyone that understands this code to look it over and review it.
BUT this is only one of the advantages of our system, made for people that might not understand all the complexities of a provable fair system.




A true provably fair system, a verifiably provable system, can not be summed up with 2-3 lines of code. Sorry, it is more complicated than that.  We spent months thinking through the process and trying to find any
hole in the system, and fixing them. If you want to use a site that only has a few lines of code, and claims that makes them "provably fair" We may not be the site for you.

Our system IS more complicated than most other sites, and we are proud of that.  Our system is also transparent. We welcome and encourage coders, and trusted members of the crypto community to look over our entire process, and review it. Dooglus I’m looking at you.  Here is an explanation of our system   https://cryptobetfair.com/provably-fair.html   Anyone that wants to talk about it more, please join us in our lounge, or our IRC channel on freenode #cryptobetfair.



Is it?  We think that giving everyone a "supposedly" random client seed is a very easy way for a corrupt casino owner to cheat its users. We could have generated a "random" client seed when you signed up, and that seed
could have been designed to rob you blind, and you would have never known. The fact that everyone has the same starting client seed means that we could not have possibly rigged that seed from the start. Also, you can easily
change your seed at any time, under your "fair?" tab. What you call "hilariously stupid" is actually a very well thought out measure to prevent cheating. Ill try and explain it to you.

Client seed is ONLY one part of the process. Your username is a factor, the daily seed is a factor (made 356K days in advance), server seed, etc...
I admit, it is hard for a non coder to understand fully, and this is why we welcome review from trusted members of the community, that understand the code. It is all there, everything is transparent. It just can not be summed up by hitting one button, and seeing the light is green, so everything must be fair. Crypto and provably fair just isn’t that easy, not if you do it right.




I think I have explained a good bit of the improvements we have made. Again, I understand it is complicated, but to sum this up...
Other sites could possibly change seeds and cheat. We can not.

This is a big claim I know...  But we welcome coders to look over our system.  We love open and honest discussion. We are willing to make changes IF anyone can show us a way to improve, and hope other sites to adopt the advancements that we have made.  The crypto world is full of scammers, the casino scene especially. We are trying to make this a better, fairer place for everyone.

Spin wheel looking old and i feel that i had been played this game somewhere before so i have doubt about this game that is not unique, coin drop looking fresh but dice game is not for high rollers i just tried this with free voucher of bumbacoin and i think they will improve the quality of games very soon.

why anyone would dis-respect bumbacoin is beyond me.
it's a legitimate coin worth valuable satoshi's
so go suck eggs and ask the mods for some free coins

such old skool

Out of beta? Very Nice. Congrats guys !


Dude, clearly not the same. (wordpress style classes ? really. Good luck with btcircle.com, notice they don't even use https? ).

Also read this:
http://bit-post.com/featured/provably-fair-a-fair-game-5044

The admins are a lot of things but thieves are not one of them.

Just don't go saying someones username more than 5x at once in the trollbox or the bear won't be laughing.

nice one, just registering now and will join the chat.  Thanks

Sure, just ask in chat, well be happy to give you a voucher

just signing up, do you have any promo vouchers we can use?
cheers

Bumba coin   I remember this coin, think I have a bag somewhere might be worthwhile opening it up and testing this site out