Topic: CryptoBetfair.com | 100% Provably Fair | More than a casino, a community. - page 7. (Read 35287 times)
June 23, 2015, 05:07:30 AM
Site looks pretty solid. Do you guys plan on increasing the max profit any time soon? Other than that I think you've done a pretty nice job. What are your long term plans in terms of games - do you want to focus on being a dice site, or rather a bitcoin casino site?
June 22, 2015, 11:41:28 PM
As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.
could you post a txid to show you withdrawing that amount. it's hard to believe yr grand sum is legit.
+1 hard to believe
No doubt I gave it back instead of withdrawing.
It's a mad, mad life when you roll $30 deep on single bets!!!
cryptobetfair. where the balls are deep.
June 22, 2015, 11:18:30 PM
As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.
could you post a txid to show you withdrawing that amount. it's hard to believe yr grand sum is legit.
+1 hard to believe
No doubt I gave it back instead of withdrawing.
It's a mad, mad life when you roll $30 deep on single bets!!!
June 22, 2015, 09:51:23 PM
As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.
could you post a txid to show you withdrawing that amount. it's hard to believe yr grand sum is legit.
+1 hard to believe
June 22, 2015, 09:32:30 PM
As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.
could you post a txid to show you withdrawing that amount. it's hard to believe yr grand sum is legit.
June 22, 2015, 08:11:18 PM
As the baller with the max bet they keep using to showcase the provably fair, I can confirm I did indeed win such a grand sum from this fine establishment.
June 22, 2015, 05:40:34 PM
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You can click on any bet ID and get this information. Pretty simple for "human verification". This verifier (program that does all the complicated checking for you) is hosted on our site, as well as 2 other peoples servers that are not associated with cryptobetfair. Some could argue that’s not good enough, because we could conspire with these other people to cheat, and produce false information in the verifier. That’s not an issue... Here is our verifier!
https://cryptobetfair.com/d/i/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize
We would be happy for anyone to host this for us. The more people that host, the better! We welcome and encourage anyone that understands this code to look it over and review it.
BUT this is only one of the advantages of our system, made for people that might not understand all the complexities of a provable fair system.
You can click on any bet ID and get this information. Pretty simple for "human verification". This verifier (program that does all the complicated checking for you) is hosted on our site, as well as 2 other peoples servers that are not associated with cryptobetfair. Some could argue that’s not good enough, because we could conspire with these other people to cheat, and produce false information in the verifier. That’s not an issue... Here is our verifier!
https://cryptobetfair.com/d/i/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize
We would be happy for anyone to host this for us. The more people that host, the better! We welcome and encourage anyone that understands this code to look it over and review it.
BUT this is only one of the advantages of our system, made for people that might not understand all the complexities of a provable fair system.
Verifier hosted on triangles.technology updated to the latest version:
https://cbf.triangles.technology/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize
June 22, 2015, 12:42:09 PM
Absolute nonsense. It's strictly inferior for human verification than JD-style provably fair. It's strictly inferior than moneypot-style for machine verification.
Instead you introduce a huge amount of needles complexity and ambiguity involving day server side changes which would allow you to cheat. Also, giving everyone the same client seed is hilariously stupid...
I'd really like to hear in your own words how this is an improvement over the status-quo.
Instead you introduce a huge amount of needles complexity and ambiguity involving day server side changes which would allow you to cheat. Also, giving everyone the same client seed is hilariously stupid...
I'd really like to hear in your own words how this is an improvement over the status-quo.
I was hoping that someone would ask us about this! Thank you! Our provable fair system is what we are most proud of, and we LOVE talking about it. Seriously, we love it. Stop by our chat any time, but I will attempt to explain it here.
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Absolute nonsense. It's strictly inferior for human verification than JD-style provably fair. It's strictly inferior than moneypot-style for machine verification.
I can see how you might have missed this, but I believe that we made it very easy for "humans" to verify every bet, ever made on our site. Check here...
You can click on any bet ID and get this information. Pretty simple for "human verification". This verifier (program that does all the complicated checking for you) is hosted on our site, as well as 2 other peoples servers that are not associated with cryptobetfair. Some could argue that’s not good enough, because we could conspire with these other people to cheat, and produce false information in the verifier. That’s not an issue... Here is our verifier!
https://cryptobetfair.com/d/i/verifybet.php?showyourself=pygmentize
We would be happy for anyone to host this for us. The more people that host, the better! We welcome and encourage anyone that understands this code to look it over and review it.
BUT this is only one of the advantages of our system, made for people that might not understand all the complexities of a provable fair system.
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Instead you introduce a huge amount of needles complexity and ambiguity involving day server side changes which would allow you to cheat.
A true provably fair system, a verifiably provable system, can not be summed up with 2-3 lines of code. Sorry, it is more complicated than that. We spent months thinking through the process and trying to find any
hole in the system, and fixing them. If you want to use a site that only has a few lines of code, and claims that makes them "provably fair" We may not be the site for you.
Our system IS more complicated than most other sites, and we are proud of that. Our system is also transparent. We welcome and encourage coders, and trusted members of the crypto community to look over our entire process, and review it. Dooglus I’m looking at you. Here is an explanation of our system https://cryptobetfair.com/provably-fair.html Anyone that wants to talk about it more, please join us in our lounge, or our IRC channel on freenode #cryptobetfair.
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Also, giving everyone the same client seed is hilariously stupid...
Is it? We think that giving everyone a "supposedly" random client seed is a very easy way for a corrupt casino owner to cheat its users. We could have generated a "random" client seed when you signed up, and that seed
could have been designed to rob you blind, and you would have never known. The fact that everyone has the same starting client seed means that we could not have possibly rigged that seed from the start. Also, you can easily
change your seed at any time, under your "fair?" tab. What you call "hilariously stupid" is actually a very well thought out measure to prevent cheating. Ill try and explain it to you.
Client seed is ONLY one part of the process. Your username is a factor, the daily seed is a factor (made 356K days in advance), server seed, etc...
I admit, it is hard for a non coder to understand fully, and this is why we welcome review from trusted members of the community, that understand the code. It is all there, everything is transparent. It just can not be summed up by hitting one button, and seeing the light is green, so everything must be fair. Crypto and provably fair just isn’t that easy, not if you do it right.
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I'd really like to hear in your own words how this is an improvement over the status-quo.
I think I have explained a good bit of the improvements we have made. Again, I understand it is complicated, but to sum this up...
Other sites could possibly change seeds and cheat. We can not.
This is a big claim I know... But we welcome coders to look over our system. We love open and honest discussion. We are willing to make changes IF anyone can show us a way to improve, and hope other sites to adopt the advancements that we have made. The crypto world is full of scammers, the casino scene especially. We are trying to make this a better, fairer place for everyone.
June 22, 2015, 02:57:17 AM
Spin wheel looking old and i feel that i had been played this game somewhere before so i have doubt about this game that is not unique, coin drop looking fresh but dice game is not for high rollers i just tried this with free voucher of bumbacoin and i think they will improve the quality of games very soon.
June 22, 2015, 02:42:38 AM
why anyone would dis-respect bumbacoin is beyond me.
it's a legitimate coin worth valuable satoshi's
so go suck eggs and ask the mods for some free coins
June 21, 2015, 11:44:30 PM
such old skool
After almost a complete code rewrite, we are now launching!
www.cryptobetfair.com
We are going to set a new standard in crypto gaming.
Right now we support:
Litecoin
Primecoin
Maxcoin
Mincoin
Doge
Worldcoin
Earthcoin
LottoCoin
Flappycoin
We are adding several new original games very very soon! Want your coin added to our list? check here: http://cryptobetfair.com/addcoin.php
Follow us on twitter for news and coin giveaways @cryptobetfair
www.cryptobetfair.com
We are going to set a new standard in crypto gaming.
Right now we support:
Litecoin
Primecoin
Maxcoin
Mincoin
Doge
Worldcoin
Earthcoin
LottoCoin
Flappycoin
We are adding several new original games very very soon! Want your coin added to our list? check here: http://cryptobetfair.com/addcoin.php
Follow us on twitter for news and coin giveaways @cryptobetfair
June 21, 2015, 06:17:07 PM
Out of beta? Very Nice. Congrats guys !
Dude, clearly not the same. (wordpress style classes ? really. Good luck with btcircle.com, notice they don't even use https? ).
Also read this:
http://bit-post.com/featured/provably-fair-a-fair-game-5044
¿100%?
http://www.btcircle.com/
https://cryptobetfair.com/wheel.html
Sorry but your have not written this 100%, you are even using the same code and sounds created by other people and a source code that was done 2 years ago.
The wheel script you are saying to be created by you, was published on sale 2 years ago, here is the demo, http://www.btcircle.com/ . You can get it free if you use google.
Be aware this guys are lying from the first post. Do not use this site. They will run with the funds of everybody.
Also you are using the same multipliers.
Sorry but you have got busted.
http://www.btcircle.com/
https://cryptobetfair.com/wheel.html
Sorry but your have not written this 100%, you are even using the same code and sounds created by other people and a source code that was done 2 years ago.
The wheel script you are saying to be created by you, was published on sale 2 years ago, here is the demo, http://www.btcircle.com/ . You can get it free if you use google.
Be aware this guys are lying from the first post. Do not use this site. They will run with the funds of everybody.
Also you are using the same multipliers.
Sorry but you have got busted.
Dude, clearly not the same. (wordpress style classes ? really. Good luck with btcircle.com, notice they don't even use https? ).
Also read this:
http://bit-post.com/featured/provably-fair-a-fair-game-5044
June 21, 2015, 06:06:00 PM
The admins are a lot of things but thieves are not one of them.
Just don't go saying someones username more than 5x at once in the trollbox or the bear won't be laughing.
Just don't go saying someones username more than 5x at once in the trollbox or the bear won't be laughing.
June 21, 2015, 04:53:01 PM
just signing up, do you have any promo vouchers we can use?
cheers
cheers
Sure, just ask in chat, well be happy to give you a voucher
June 21, 2015, 04:49:28 PM
just signing up, do you have any promo vouchers we can use?
cheers
cheers
Sure, just ask in chat, well be happy to give you a voucher
June 21, 2015, 04:47:50 PM
just signing up, do you have any promo vouchers we can use?
cheers
cheers
June 21, 2015, 04:45:40 PM
Bemba coin to test this site 
i also would like to test this site with famous coin not this, anyway site looking with unique graphics and famous games coin drop is updated version of plinko and with cool animation, slot machine has also nice animation there but dice game missing basic buttons and i hope it will be added soon there.
Bumba coin i also would like to test this site with famous coin not this, anyway site looking with unique graphics and famous games coin drop is updated version of plinko and with cool animation, slot machine has also nice animation there but dice game missing basic buttons and i hope it will be added soon there.
I remember this coin, think I have a bag somewhere might be worthwhile opening it up and testing this site out June 21, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
@ponzigo I can see why you would think that, it is an honest mistake. We used to run that script 2 years ago, that is how we got started. The code was so bad, and so full of back doors that we scrapped the whole thing and completely rewrote it. If you look closely it will be clear, they are nothing alike other than the dimensions of the wheel. The game was a great idea, but the script code was crap. We completely redid everything ourselves. If you want more details, come on by and talk with us. We are in chat right now.
We are not making outrageous claims of wealth , we are not sharks or whales, we are enthusiasts that built a place in crypto we'd like to use ourselves.
We are not making outrageous claims of wealth , we are not sharks or whales, we are enthusiasts that built a place in crypto we'd like to use ourselves.
June 21, 2015, 04:30:16 PM
Just wanted to confirm, our code was written 100% by us. We invite anyone to come take a look. Our head dev is in chat right now nimchimpsky would love to talk nerdy to anyone that has questions. Esp about our advanced provably fair method.
¿100%?http://www.btcircle.com/
https://cryptobetfair.com/wheel.html
Sorry but your have not written this 100%, you are even using the same code and sounds created by other people and a source code that was done 2 years ago.
The wheel script you are saying to be created by you, was published on sale 2 years ago, here is the demo, http://www.btcircle.com/ . You can get it free if you use google.
Be aware this guys are lying from the first post. Do not use this site. They will run with the funds of everybody.
Also you are using the same multipliers.
Sorry but you have got busted.
June 21, 2015, 04:03:27 PM
2 old time user that never post more than a year come back and launch a gambling site?lol beware
I don't know why this thread has accusations like this. OK so I don't know these devs, but cmon people think about it. Who is going to make more money, if one guy steals your .05 btc deposit, or one guy that build a successful casino with a nice volume. Even if it is a small volume, the house edge is much better than stealing.
Anyways this site looks like it is fun, I will have to see when I get the chance. I like that you plan to add more games too, because I am not too excited about dice, coin drop, and wheel. Best of luck to your casino!
Yep we have a lot of things planed in the near future. It is 100% understandable not to trust a "new" site in the crypto world, and thats not a problem. Come check us out in 6 months or a year, well see you then. We will still be here.
Some players dont understand properly your words as this site still in beta and under development so i think they have to stay cool have patient so give this site some time to add some features to this new casino and i hope this will be the good addition for gambling with variety of crypto currency.
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