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Topic: ⭐ Crypto.Games ⭐ 0.8% House Edge on Dice ⭐ Largest wagering contest...ever ⭐ - page 72. (Read 346474 times)

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16days left for the monthly wagering contest.
legendary
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What an incredible performance by this anonymous player. Almost 7.4 ether (ETH) (more than $1,000) won in a single bet.

What do you guys think is more satisfying, winning a huge amount in a single bet, or racking up a series of successive wins to end up with the same huge amount?
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ETH Lottery round 181 ends in 12hrs!

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Second place
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Third place
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Total tickets (of all players)
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Goodbye, Z.
Minimum bet for maximum jackpot win 0.005
Odds one in ten million (10000000*0.005=50000 BTC wagered) , expected loss (50000*0.008=400)
Playing for small part of jackpot will give you better ev.
You mentioned 5000% = 50*8 = 400
Your statement implied that's true for the jackpot in all cases. It is not. Your statement only applies to those players playing for a full jackpot hit.
The majority of players however do not do that, they play at sizes lower than that and qualify only for a percent of the jackpot balance.
The jackpot becomes +EV at the point one way to win it becomes +EV, not at the point all ways to win it become +EV.
That number is 8, not 400.
legendary
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Odds are extremely low 1 in a 10 million excluding winning chance odds It should be over 400BTC to be EV+
That number seemed way out there, so I checked. Let's take a few seconds to go over the calculation together, instead of just throwing around made-up thresholds:

The house edge on dice is 0.8%.
If we assume you wager at a x2 payout (most common, probably, easy for an estimation), that would mean you have to wager 0.00000100 per bet to qualify for a dice jackpot.
If it takes you on average 10 million tries to win a jackpot (the expected value), then you would wager 0.00000100*10000000 = 10 BTC in that process.
Of course betting at this size will only award you 1% of the jackpot share. That 1% would have to match your expected losses while wagering 10 BTC to bring you to +EV.

So how much are you expected to lose when wagering 10 BTC? Well, easy enough 10*0.008 = 0.08 BTC.
So if you are playing in an area that gives you 1% jackpot hits, you would need to recoup 0.08 BTC from the Jackpot for it to become +EV.
Since the 1% is easy to calculate, we can quickly see from which jackpot balance up this is the case, 0.08*100 = 8 BTC.
The threshold for 1% jackpot hits to become +EV is not 400, it is way less than that, 8 (or roughly 2 times the current balance, raising as we speak, since the jackpot is progressive).

Now you might claim that the difference of roughly 5000% does not matter, because the situation is the same, the balance for the jackpot to become +EV is higher than the current jackpot balance.
But I'd say it makes a big difference, not just for people playing right now that can shave a big portion off their house edge with the jackpots (and even more if they participate and place in the wagering contests), but also for the future.
I can see the jackpot growing to 8 BTC or higher, that seems like a reasonable number, I however cannot see the jackpot growing to 400 BTC anytime soon, if ever (which is probably why you threw around such a stupidly high number).

Minimum bet for maximum jackpot win 0.005
Odds one in ten million (10000000*0.005=50000 BTC wagered) , expected loss (50000*0.008=400)
Playing for small part of jackpot will give you better ev.
You mentioned 5000% = 50*8 = 400
legendary
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Congratulations to Ader266 on his impressive back-to-back wins earlier today. Over 0.1 BTC won in less than 2 minutes—seemingly using the Martingale strategy.

Has anybody seen a longer winning streak at 50% than this recently?
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Goodbye, Z.
Odds are extremely low 1 in a 10 million excluding winning chance odds It should be over 400BTC to be EV+
That number seemed way out there, so I checked. Let's take a few seconds to go over the calculation together, instead of just throwing around made-up thresholds:

The house edge on dice is 0.8%.
If we assume you wager at a x2 payout (most common, probably, easy for an estimation), that would mean you have to wager 0.00000100 per bet to qualify for a dice jackpot.
If it takes you on average 10 million tries to win a jackpot (the expected value), then you would wager 0.00000100*10000000 = 10 BTC in that process.
Of course betting at this size will only award you 1% of the jackpot share. That 1% would have to match your expected losses while wagering 10 BTC to bring you to +EV.

So how much are you expected to lose when wagering 10 BTC? Well, easy enough 10*0.008 = 0.08 BTC.
So if you are playing in an area that gives you 1% jackpot hits, you would need to recoup 0.08 BTC from the Jackpot for it to become +EV.
Since the 1% is easy to calculate, we can quickly see from which jackpot balance up this is the case, 0.08*100 = 8 BTC.
The threshold for 1% jackpot hits to become +EV is not 400, it is way less than that, 8 (or roughly 2 times the current balance, raising as we speak, since the jackpot is progressive).

Now you might claim that the difference of roughly 5000% does not matter, because the situation is the same, the balance for the jackpot to become +EV is higher than the current jackpot balance.
But I'd say it makes a big difference, not just for people playing right now that can shave a big portion off their house edge with the jackpots (and even more if they participate and place in the wagering contests), but also for the future.
I can see the jackpot growing to 8 BTC or higher, that seems like a reasonable number, I however cannot see the jackpot growing to 400 BTC anytime soon, if ever (which is probably why you threw around such a stupidly high number).
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legendary
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Today, while hunting the Jackpot, I once succeeded with the bet ID, but never with the roll number. Smiley



If you are hunting the jackpot it is better to use a low multiplier so that both 7.777 and 77.777 are winning rolls.


I haven't noticed that. Thank you! I'd kill myself on the spot, if I rolled 77.777 with the appropriate BetID, and it wasn't a winning roll! Smiley

I think, with your help, I've figured out the optimal settings for hunting the jackpot on Crypto-Games.net:



Only don't forget that not only your bet amount, but aslo your profit should be at least 0.000001 BTC. So, with 1.25x your bet size must be at least 400 sats.

Again succeeded with the BetID



but the roll number was lacking of four 7s. Smiley
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It's better to not play solely to win jackpot.
Odds are extremely low 1 in a 10 million excluding winning chance odds It should be over 400BTC to be EV+

You can't play solely for a jackpot as you have to make a dice roll. The jackpot does not have any extra cost to enter. I was just pointing out that if you play dice on a low multiplier so that both outcomes are winning rolls you have double the chance of getting a jackpot.
legendary
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Bitdice is scam scam scammmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Today, while hunting the Jackpot, I once succeeded with the bet ID, but never with the roll number. Smiley



If you are hunting the jackpot it is better to use a low multiplier so that both 7.777 and 77.777 are winning rolls.


It's better to not play solely to win jackpot.
Odds are extremely low 1 in a 10 million excluding winning chance odds It should be over 400BTC to be EV+
hero member
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Today, while hunting the Jackpot, I once succeeded with the bet ID, but never with the roll number. Smiley



If you are hunting the jackpot it is better to use a low multiplier so that both 7.777 and 77.777 are winning rolls.
legendary
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It has been almost 3 months since last dice jackpot!!

Jackpot for Bitcoin dice is now almost 3.6 BTC. Check our website for details. Smiley

I think it won't hurt to remind the rules for winning Dice Jackpot.



What I personally like the most about the rules is that "Jackpot is given to you automatically, you don't have to report it anywhere." This is very convenient for those who prefer to use autobet, and although I rarely use autobet myself, it is still convenient for me too, because I shouldn't constantly worry about whether I accidentally  hit it and failed to report.

Today, while hunting the Jackpot, I once succeeded with the bet ID, but never with the roll number. Smiley


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legendary
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Great to see that finally there is an auto betting for the plinko game so players do not need to do manual click many times as what they used to do when there was no auto betting.
I personally love the button clicking though. It adds suspense to the game! Cheesy

Its been so long time since my last play here and I think I'll come back soon because of this new feature on the plinko as I'm a plinko game lover.
I also hope this auto betting will make the number of wagered amount of this game increased a lot as I think that the reason why it has low wagered amount is because the non existence of auto betting so players were so easy to get tired in the past.
You should definitely come and check the new updates! I don't think auto-betting was the cause of people not playing as much on the Plinko Game. CG is best known for the dice and a couple of other games so wagged amount of them will always be higher as compared to Plinko.

I did test it yesterday with some thousands doge coins but I was unlucky as I lost it all within few minutes. Probably you are right that CG is best known for the dice game, I also think that the plinko game here is not that famous compared to other sites as it is a bit different (the payout).
My opinion about the new update, the auto betting on the plinko game works well although it is just like a manual mode by clicking it continuously because the ball drops one by one unlike the plinko game on other sites where I can see many balls dropped at the same time.
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Great to see that finally there is an auto betting for the plinko game so players do not need to do manual click many times as what they used to do when there was no auto betting.
I personally love the button clicking though. It adds suspense to the game! Cheesy

Its been so long time since my last play here and I think I'll come back soon because of this new feature on the plinko as I'm a plinko game lover.
I also hope this auto betting will make the number of wagered amount of this game increased a lot as I think that the reason why it has low wagered amount is because the non existence of auto betting so players were so easy to get tired in the past.
You should definitely come and check the new updates! I don't think auto-betting was the cause of people not playing as much on the Plinko Game. CG is best known for the dice and a couple of other games so wagged amount of them will always be higher as compared to Plinko.
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We do have still 11 days left for the monthly wager contest and User Aylmer555  is already half for the maximum bitcoin reward.

Correction: 21 days left.. so plenty of time to win some sweet prizes up to 1 Bitcoin Smiley
hero member
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We do have still 11 21 days left for the monthly wager contest and User Aylmer555  is already half for the maximum bitcoin reward.


Correction: 21 days left.. so plenty of time to win some sweet prizes up to 1 Bitcoin Smiley
Edited. My bad.  Cheesy
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