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Patents in general have no scientific value, as they simply describe a technical method or device. They do not ascertain if any associated intended effect is actually achieved.
Diaphragmalysis is a physical principle, an cant be patented - therefore it has nothing to do with patents.

Please discuss this topics with experts not in this thread:
http://www.vbinstitute.org/about/experts/

This Project is about the development of a GPL ECA reactor.

And not a discussion thread if ECA works or not.
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Everything starting at #27 through the end are author's certificates, a variant of patents used in the USSR for inventions related to food and health issues.

Patents in general have no scientific value, as they simply describe a technical method or device. They do not ascertain if any associated intended effect is actually achieved.

I'll get to the rest in a minute.
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1. V.M. Bakhir. Electrochemical activation. -M.; VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1992, 2 parts - 657 pp.

2. V.I. Prilutsky, V.M. Bakhir. Electrochemically activated water: anomalous properties, mechanism of biological action. - M.; VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1997 - 232 pp.

3. V.M. Bakhir. Medical and technical systems and technologies for synthesis of electrochemically activated sterilizing, disinfectant and washing solutions / / Thesis for a degree of Doctor of Technical Sciences; M., VNIII of Medical Engineering, 1997. - 75 pp.

4. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, G. I. Dergach. Magnetoelectric properties of drilling muds and their use for increasing drilling efficacy. - M; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1975, - 39 pp.

5. V.M. Bakhir, U.D. Mamadzhanov. Surface phenomena in disperse systems under conditions of unipolar electric exposure. // Summaries of reports. 7th ALL-Union Conference on Colloidal Chemistry and Physical-Chemical Mechanics. - Minsk : "Nauka i Tekhnika", 1997, p. 78.

6. V.M. Bakhir. A device for electric treatment of drilling mud. - UOBR. Inf. Leaflet #. 27-79, series 0812-06. -M.; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1979.

7. V.M. Bakhir. A device for electric treatment of mineralized water. - UEV. Inf. Leaflet #. 28-79, series 0812-06. -M.; VNIIEGAZPROM, 1979.

8. V. Latyshev. Wonder water. Izobretatel i ratsionalizator, # 9, 1981.

9. Yu. Yegorov. Academician Vakhidov: Activated water has perspectives. Izobretatel i ratsionalizator, # 9, 1981.

10. Yu. Yegorov. Surprises of water. Sovetsky Soyuz, # 9, 1981.

11. Ye. Yevseyev. These activated liquids. " Tekhnika I Nauka" # 11, 12, 1981; # l, 1982; #12, 1984.

12. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, G.R.Mirzakarimova, U.D.Mamadzhanov, Activation in biology. "Tekhnika i Nauka", # 12, 1982.

13.Novogrudsky. “Live and dead water" - what stands behind the sensation?” Literaturnaya Gazeta # 37 (5051), 11.09.1985, p.12.

14. Will panacea really help? Nedelya # 40 (1332), 1985, p. 7.

15. V. Latyshev. 'Where do you flow, "wonder water"? "Izobretatel 1 ratsionalizator". # 2, 5, 1985.

16. S. Gurov. In search of "live" water. Nedelya , # 19 (1311), 1985, p. 17.

17. V. Bakhir, A. Podkolzin, Yu. Fridmanov, Yu. Zadorozhny, L.Spektor, N.Khabarov. Around "live" water. "Tekhnika I Nauka", # 5, 6, 1985.

18. A.A.Onatskaya, N. I. Muzalevskaya. Activated water. In book: Chemistry — Traditional and Paradoxical. L. LGU, 1985, pp. 88-114.

19. Gladkov, N. Morozov , V. Reut. Water Magic. "Pravda", # 189 (24446), 8.07.1985.

20. V.M. Bakhir, A. R. Atadzhanov, U. D. Mamadzhanov et al. Activated substances. Some questions of theory and practice. // Papers of the UzSSR Academy of Sciences. Series of Technical Sciences, 1981, # 5, pp. 68-72.

21. V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A G. Liakumovich et al. Mechanism of altering reactivity of activated substances. // Papers of UzSSR Academy of Sciences. Series of Technical Sciences, 1982, # 4; pp. 70-74.

22. V.M. Bakhir, A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L. E. Spektor, U. D. Mamadzhanov. Physical origin of substance activation phenomena. // Papers of UzSSR Academy of Sciences, Ser. of Techn. Sc., 1983, # 1, pp. 60-64.

23. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, G. R. Mirzakarimova. Activation in biology // Tekhnika i nauka M.; Profizdat, 1982, # 12.

24. V.M. Bakhir, P. A. Kirpichnikov, A. G. Liakumovich et al. On the nature of electrochemical activation of media // Reports of the USSR Academy of Sciences, 1986, vol. 286, # 3, pp. 663-666.

25. V.M. Bakhir, N. G. Tsikoridze, L.Ye.Spektor et al. Electrochemical activation of aqueous solutions and its technological application in food industry. // Series: Food industry, Tbilisi ; Gruz.NII of Scientific and Technical Information, 1988, issue 3, 81 pp.

26. V.M. Bakhir. Regulation of physical and chemical properties of technological aqueous solutions by unipolar electrochemical exposure and experience of its practical application. // A Thesis for the degree of Candidate of Technical Sciences - Kazan: Kazan Institute of Chemical Technologies, 1985,— 146 pp.

27. V.M. Bakhir, U.D. Mamadzhanov, M.G. Maksudova et al. A method of pre-sowing treatment of cotton seeds. USSR Author's Certificate # 6633359, 1976.

28. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir. A method of removing hydrogen sulfide from gas. USSR Author's Certificate # 858892, 1978.'

29. V.M. Bakhir. A method of regulating physico-chemical properties of drilling mud. USSR Author's Certificate # 1035047, 1979.

30. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, R.I. Born. A method of

hydrocarbon-bearing formation drilling. USSR Author's Certificate # 961401, 1979.

31. V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, V.P. Tabakov et al. A method of developing oil pools. USSR Author's Certificate # 967142, 1980.

32. U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, M.G. Maksudova et al. A method of producing a defoliant for cotton treatment. USSR Author's Certificate # 976918, 1980.

33. V.M. Afanasov, Ye.N. Bolotsky, M.A. Zaugolnikov, A.F. Kozlov, C.I. Teveleva, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, N.A. Mariampolsky, R. Karimov. A solution for etching printed circuit boards. USSR Author's Certificate # 1018266, 1981.

34. E.K. Irmatov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, A.H. Nadzhimitdinov, N.A. Mariampolsky, V.M. Bakhir. A method of oil displacement from a productive formation. USSR Author's Certificate # 1019885, 1981.

35. L.A. Averko-Antonovich, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, R.A, Garipova, B.L. Irkhin, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, F.G. Nigmatullina, V.I. Ponomarenko, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of releasing bi-vinyl-methyl-styrene rubbers. USSR Author's Certificate # 1036021, 1982.

36. N.H. Yusupov, A.A. Fyodorov, P.V. Terekhov, A.K. Shigapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, L.V. Verizhnikov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, S.I. Agadzhanyan. A method of treating X-ray medical film. USSR Author's Certificate # 1037202, 1982.

37. A.G. Liakumovich, N. V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S V. Trifonov, H.H. Gilmanov, A.I. Mitrofanov, V.A. Cheusov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, N.V. Sadykov. A method of cleaning pyrolysis furnace coil from coke. USSR Author's Certificate # 1074134, 1982.

38. N.D. Lukin, N.G. Gulyuk, E.K. Koptelova, A.I. Zhushman, E.K. Sidorova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, A.G. Liakumovich, N.M. Popova. A method of starch hydrolysis. USSR Author's Certificate # 1078935, 1982.

39. U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, N.A. Mariampolsky, E.P. Kulikov. A method of descaling heat-exchange system surface. USSR Author's Certificate # 1090664, 1981.

40. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, N.V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S.V. Trifonov, A.I. Mitrofanov, V.A, Isaev, T.V. Chesnokova. A method of obtaining low olefins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1100924, 1982.

41. M.G. Lubyanskaya, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, R.A. Karimov, L.Yu. Andreeva, I.K. Lapkina, L.V. Schelokova. A method of softening natural water. USSR Author's Certificate # 1101419, 1982.

42. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, L.L. Vladimirova, N.V. Tararina, F.U. Saifullina, R.R. Yunusova, N.S. Rakhimov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of processing natural fur. USSR Author's Certificate # 1102306, 1982.

43. A.G. Liakumovich, N.V. Lemaev, G.Z. Sakhapov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, B.A. Grigorovich, Yu.M. Arsh, S.V. Trifonov, H.H. Gilmanov, V.A. Isaev, A.I. Mitrofanov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, E.I. Galeeva. A method of producing low olefins and benzene. USSR Author's Certificate # 1112772, 1982.

44. V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, V.I. Vaver, A.G. Liakumovich, V.L. Usov, L.Ye.Spektor, E.B. Kuznetsov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, S.A. Alyokhin, E.K. Irmatov. A method of protecting pipelines against corrosive action of flowing liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1114083, 1982.

45. A.F. Kozlov, E.N. Bolotsky, S.I. Teveleva, V.M. Afanasov, M.A. Zaugolnikov, V.M. Bakhir, B.S. Fridman. A lubricant-coolant for mechanic processing of metals. USSR Author's Certificate # 1119340, 1982.

46. V.V. Vakhidov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, A.H. Kasymov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, H.I. Iskhakova, I.M. Baibekov, I.V. Ovchinnikov, N.A. Mariampolsky, P.V. Goncharov. A method of producing a fluid possessing biologically active properties. USSR Author's Certificate # 1121905, 1121906, 1121907, 1981.

47. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, V.M. Ilyina, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.M. Popova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.F. Malov, V.M. Poltavets, A.A. Isakov. A method of preparing desalinated water. USSR Author's Certificate # 1122616, 1982.

48. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.M. Popova, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Poltavets, V.M. Ilyina, A.A. Isakov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of preparing water for replenishing heating systems. USSR Author's Certificate # 1122617, 1982.

49. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.Ye. Spektor, V.I. Korneyev, N.A. Poddubny, E.N. Yurginson, B.A. Kuzmin, Rivkin, V.F. Palkin, P.U. Garner, B.S. Fridman. A method of preparing mixture for producing cores and moulds. USSR Author's Certificate # 1127684, 1983.

50. N.A. Mariampolsky, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, A-M.Kh. Khashimov, K. Karimov. A method of cementing wells. USSR Author's Certificate # 1134699, 1980;

51. I.Yu. Averko-Antonovich, F.G. Nigmatullina, R.A. Garipova, A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Ponomarenko, B.L. Irkhin. A method of producing synthetic latex. USSR Author's Certificate # 1148314, 1983.

52. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, N.V. Lemaev, S.A. Alyokhin, G.Z. Sakhapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, B.A. Grigorovich. A method of producing unsaturated hydrocarbons and benzene. USSR Author's Certificate # 1154930, 1982.

53. A.G. Liakumovich, V.M. Bakhir, N.V. Lemaev, S.A. Alyokhin, G.Z. Sakhapov, P.A. Kirpichnikov, B.A. Grigorovich. A method of producing unsaturated hydrocarbons. USSR Author's Certificate # 1154931, 1982.

54. Z.H. Dzhalilov, L.N. Danielova, V.A. Dukhovny, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, V.A. Volodin, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of preparing water for farm crop irrigation. USSR Author's Certificate # 1165638, 1984.

55. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, M.G. Altykis, N.G. Volkov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, R.Z.Rakhimov. A method of lime slaking. USSR Author's Certificate # 1178719, 1982.

56. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, M.G. Altykis, R.Z Rakhimov, V.I. Remiznikova, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir. A method of manufacturing ceramic articles. USSR Author's Certificate # 1178733, 1982.

57. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, S.I. Agadzhanyan, E.V. Babenko, R.A. Ertevtsian, N.I. Anoshenkov, E.P. Soldatova, A.V. Lebedev, T.N. Mordvinova, P.P. Sokolov, I.P. Vyazovsky, S.R. Ruslyakov, R.A. Torpischev, V.M. Bakhir. A washing agent to clean metal surfaces. USSR Author's Certificate # 1182812, 1984.

58. A.R. Atadzhanov, U.D. Mamadzhanov, V.M. Bakhir, S.A. Alyokhin, L.Ye.Spektor, N.Z. Melsitdinova, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of removing hydrogen sulfide from natural gas. USSR Author's Certificate # 1212521, 1984.

59. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, B.S. Fridman, P.U. Garner, Yu.I. Zaitsev, A.F. Knyazev, N.P. Kuleshov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, A.R. Atadzhanov. A method of producing electrolyte for lead accumulators. USSR Author's Certificate # 1213923, 1983.

60. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, Yu.V. Latyshev, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, U.D. Mamadzhanov, G.R. Mirzakarimova, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich. A portable device for electric treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1215306, 1982.

61. N.G. Tsikoridze, A.G. Liakumovich, R.G. Dadiani, P.A. Kirpichnikov, M.V. Mechekhia, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of producing dry leaf concentrate. USSR Author's Certificate # 1216846, 1984.

62. A.G. Liakumovich, M.G. Altykis, P.A. Kirpichnikov, R. Z. Rakhimov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, L.A. Averko-Antonovich, S.G. Ganellina, N.V. Sekerina, R.I. Faizullin, R.B. Abdrazakov, Ya.M. Zapolsky, I.L. Krinkin, G.F. Samoilov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of producing concrete mixture. USSR Author's Certificate # 1218632, 1983.

63. A.G. Liakumovich, Z.I. Khubulava, P.A. Kirpichnikov, L.I. Agvazdina, S.I. Agadzhanyan, V.H. Kadyrova, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, L.V. Verizhnikov. A method of regenerating oxidized fats. USSR Author's Certificate # 1231868, 1983.

64. K.A. Kalunyants, T.V. Filatova, A.I. Sadova, A.A. Kochetkova, A.E. Baskayeva, V.M. Bakhir, A.G. Liakumovich, E.Ya. Butvinnik, V.D. Shishin, L.V. Sudnikovich. A method of producing malt. USSR Author's Certificate # 1279235, 1984.

65. A.G. Liakumovich, M.G. Altykis, P.A. Kirpichnikov, R.I. Faizullin, R.Z. Rakhimov, S.I. Agadzhanyan, A.T. Kuznetsov, V.M. Bakhir. A method of producing concrete mixture. USSR Author's Certificate # 1293143, 1985.

66. P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.G. Liakumovich, B.S. Fridman, P.U. Gamer, V.A Tereshkin, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.P. Abreimov, V.V. Makarov, O.M. Guryanova, L.M. Shiryak, F.D. Fedotova, I.M. Magdeev, V.M. Petukhov, A.F. Kozlov, I.Z. Gizatullin, E.V. Kurnakov. A solution for chemical copper plating. USSR Author's Certificate # 1300981, 1982.

67. N.G. Tsikoridze, A.G. Liakumovich, R.G. Dadiani, P.A. Kirpichnikov, M.V. Mechekhia, S.I. Agadzhanyan, Z.I. Hubulava, V.M. Bakhir. A method of preserving citrus fruits. USSR Author's Certificate # 1341743, 1985.

68. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, L.Ye.Spektor, V.G. Shol, S.A. Alyokhin. A method of processing poultry or cattle manure. USSR Author's Certificate # 1417407, 1986.

69. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, F.U. Saifullina, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, H.V. Tararina, L.L. Vladimirova, R.H. Khalitov , N.S. Rakhimov. A method of treating hair of fur skins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1437400, 1982.

70. A.G. Liakumovich, P.A. Kirpichnikov, A.K. Serobyan, F.U. Saifullina, N.V. Tararina, L.L. Vladimirova, R.K. Nikolaeva, R.R. Yunusova, I.L. Partnov, N.S. Rakhimov, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor. A method of currying fur skins. USSR Author's Certificate # 1437401, 1982.

71. L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A device for unipolar electric treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1476806, 1987.

72. L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.N. Shtefan. A device for unipolar treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1476807, 1987.

73. N.G. Tsikoridze, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G, Zadorozhny, R.G. Dadiani, M.V. Mechekhia, R.A. Arutinov, G.I. Tsintsadze, R.R. Dzhindzholia. A countercurrent continuous-action extractor for vegetative raw mterial. USSR Author's Certificate # 1494257, 1987.

74. K.L. Shtern, N.I. Gusakov, L.Ye.Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, B.A. Piskunov, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of preserving green mass of maize. USSR Author's Certificate # 1534772, 1987.

75. V.I. Fisinin, B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Filonenko, L.Ye.Spektor, T.A. Stollyar, S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, O.V. Bogatova, V.G. Shol, A.P. Tolkachev. A method of poultry watering. USSR Author's Certificate # 1554172, 1987.

76. K.L. Shtem, L.Ye. Spektor, A.G. Kiporenko, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny. A method of producing a biologically active liquid. USSR Author's Certificate # 1559637, 1987.

77. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, K.L. Shtern, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, N.I. Gusakov, A.G. Kiporenko. A method of producing nitrogenous fertilizers. USSR Author's Certificate # 1594917, 1987.

78. Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye.Spektor, V.S. Belikov, N.M. Lysenko, A.A. Podkolzin, N.N. Dmitriev, V.N. Shtefan, Yu.A. Grachev. A device for electrochemical treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1634643, 1986.

79. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, A.M. Barkhatova, V.G. Shol. A method of storing meat. USSR Author's Certificate # 1677891, 1989.

80. V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor, Yu.G. Zadorozhny , N.M. Lysenko, Ya.A. Rudinsky. A device for electrochemical treatment of liquids. USSR Author's Certificate # 1719316, 1986.

81. V.I. Filonenko, B.A. Piskunov, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, A.M. Barkhatova, V.I. Fisinin, V.G. Shol, I.D. Eschenko. A method of poultry-keeping. USSR Author's Certificate # 1737793, 1989.

82. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, Yu.G. Zadorozhny, V.I. Filonenko, S.A. Alyokhin, G.R. Mirzakarimova, O.V. Bogatova, A.I. Ikramov. A method of treating farm poultry eggs. USSR Author's Certificate # 1752401, 1986.

83. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, L.Ye. Spektor , S.A. Alyokhin, V.M. Bakhir, V.I. Filonenko, A.M. Barkhatova, V.G. Shol. A method of preparing water for farm poultry watering. USSR Author's Certificate # 1817286, 1988.

84. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, V.M. Bakhir, L.Ye. Spektor , S.A. Alyokhin, V.I. Filonenko, M.Yu. Tarasova. A method of loosening plumage on farm bird carcasses, before its removal. USSR Author's Certificate # 1830665, 1987.

85. B.A. Piskunov, V.I. Fisinin, S.A. Alyokhin, A.M. Barkhatova, L.Ye. Spektor, V.M. Bakhir, A.I. Ikramov, V.I. Filonenko, V.G. Shol, N.E. Vanner. A device for disinfecting farm poultry eggs. USSR Author's Certificate # 1839299, 1988.

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Why are all of these company presentations?

Why is there nothing about this in Reaxys, Beilstein, Houben-Weyl, SoS, Scopus, Verfahrenstechnische Berichte, Chemical Abstracts or any other indexing service?

Show me a reference to this in a peer-reviewed journal.

But please convince yourself academicaly, you have all options open to do so.

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Why are all of these company presentations?

Why is there nothing about this in Reaxys, Beilstein, Houben-Weyl, SoS, Scopus, Verfahrenstechnische Berichte, Chemical Abstracts or any other indexing service?

Show me a reference to this in a peer-reviewed journal.
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Some info in german:
You find in the PDFs a study and a presentation from a Swiss ECA Company.

http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/laboranalysen.pdf

A presentation of the comercial Swiss company in german
http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/de_praesentation_kurz.pdf

English
http://www.aguapak.com/steriplant.html

A german water company what was awarded for the inovative use of ECA 2004 in english,
REDO® Water Systems received from the german Federal Ministry of Economics and Labor the Federal Award for Outstanding Innovative Achievement
http://www.redowater.com

A presentation of a Estonian Company
http://www.envirolyte-benelux.com/htdocs/media/downloads/mainbro.pdf

Izumrud Russia
http://www.izumrud.com.ru/eng/

But please convince yourself academicaly, you have all options open to do so.


I totaly agree with you stan.
I can imagine that ppl have a hard time to digest ECA. It needs time for the ppl to start somewhere realizing it, denial and sarcasm was allways the blue pill oriented minds thing and is not a solution or a way to deal with this topic.
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Where's all the financial details?

How will this help you, when there aren't even technical details?  Shocked
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You're quite right it won't, I'm just pointing out as an investment thread it's ridiculous! Classic case of baffling brains with bullshit but I can't understand why on earth people have invested...

.."oh I don't understand this or how it makes money, here take my cash" lol this forums crazy!
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Ok, I want to give you an example:

Where's all the financial details?

How will this help you, when there aren't even technical details?  Shocked
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Gotcha, I understand thanks.

Thanks for your understanding.
ECA offers as a retaliation for the inconvenience a 10% version of the 250ml EAW concentrate for 5 ECA or 10000 DVB + shipping
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Its as easy as 0, 1, 1, 2, 3
Gotcha, I understand thanks.
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DVB accepts DVC as a payment method.
You are right, DVB was created DVC based
ECA was created BTC based

About this technical problems you would have to talk with ppl from cryptostocks.com and suggest the incorporation of multicurrency for securities.
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I would buy some stock if you would accept DVC as payment for shares also, just fyi.
I would love to be able to do that but unfortunatly CS is not capable for it.
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Why aren't devcoins accepted for this on cryptostocks?

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@ PRAWDA
Great, so you understand how to do diaphragmalysis, why dnt produce your solutions yourself and observe.
In german it is:

Elektrochemische Aktivierung von wässrigen Lösungen.

Some info in german:
You find in the PDFs a study and a presentation from a Swiss ECA Company.

http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/laboranalysen.pdf

A presentation of the comercial Swiss company in german
http://www.swisssteriplant.ch/04.downloads/de_praesentation_kurz.pdf

English
http://www.aguapak.com/steriplant.html

A german water company what was awarded for the inovative use of ECA 2004 in english,
REDO® Water Systems received from the german Federal Ministry of Economics and Labor the Federal Award for Outstanding Innovative Achievement
http://www.redowater.com

A presentation of a Estonian Company
http://www.envirolyte-benelux.com/htdocs/media/downloads/mainbro.pdf

Izumrud Russia
http://www.izumrud.com.ru/eng/

But please convince yourself academicaly, you have all options open to do so.
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@ prawda
I suggest to reread my first post and do a bether job!

I read the first post. I also understand the german part, as I'm a native german.

Why dnt you find studies ?? Probably cause most material is written in russian, japan or german and/or you use the wrong search terminology.

I speak german. However, you can just link the studies here. This is no problem. If I am too stupid to use the right search terminology, you can just go ahead and post the studies as they appear in accepted journals.

Last time i showed the production process to a chemist he did the measurements on all solutions and after he saw the results he went to total denial, like: this is not possible, this cant be !! Since you meantioned you are a chemist, i understand why you act like you do.

I'm not a chemist, I said I'm a physicist.

However i would suggest you do your homework again and search for the real truth, instead of accusing ppl of fraud. Since prawada means truth, i expected more from you.

Btw the report i posted earlyer was found by a damn quick search on google and has nothing to do with myself Smiley

Why do you post it then? Just go ahead and post some serious stuff. You say you have 13 years of experience in "ECA"? Why don't you post something that you have done in these 13 years? 13 years is such a long time, which should not end with the necessity of doing a quick search on google.

Why don't you come along with this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11307252
or this:
http://eprints.ucl.ac.uk/149933/

This would still be debatable but it would not be obvious that your claims are contradictory.
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@ prawda
I suggest to reread my first post and do a bether job!
40 years of studies worldwide are avalable.
Why dnt you came across the stuff ?? IDK Ask your government!
Probably not cause till 1992 this was a secret russian military technology used in case the USA would attack USSSR to be able to clean polluted waterstreams from chemical or biological weapons.
Why dnt you find studies ?? Probably cause most material is written in russian, japan or german and/or you use the wrong search terminology.
The stuff is called Anolyth or Anolyt in Europe scientific correctly made out of the two words anode and lysis. The product from this diaphragmalysis on the anode side is called anolyth or anolyt, but i guess out of copyright concerns there are many names out there.

By my meanwhile 13 years douring expirience with electrochemical activated solutions i observed one thing:
People have realy a hard time to digest this, since it is possible to create out of ordinary destilled water (H2O) with a little bit electrolyte (NaCl) just by using electricity a solution with PH 1 and ORP 1200 mV.
Last time i showed the production process to a chemist he did the measurements on all solutions and after he saw the results he went to total denial, like: this is not possible, this cant be !! Since you meantioned you are a chemist, i understand why you act like you do.
One more thing: when you ripp appart h2o and nacl by using electric currenct you end up at least with H, O, Na, Cl and various combinations of it, no radicals for you to find here ??

However i would suggest you do your homework again and search for the real truth, instead of accusing ppl of fraud. Since prawada means truth, i expected more from you.

Btw the report i posted earlyer was found by a damn quick search on google and has nothing to do with myself Smiley

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