Cryptotalk 1 BTC Contest Manipulation - page 2.

LoyceV

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on November 01, 2019, 05:11:47 AM

At some point they need to turn a profit, right? But what profit can they expect from their user base?

I can only think of website rankings: according to worthofweb.com, their value more than doubled in less than a month. I don't think it's working much though, it's now worth 5 times more than worthofweb.com/loyce.club, while I didn't even try Tongue

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: nutildah on November 01, 2019, 01:15:29 AM

I wonder what their end goal is... somehow converting those users (or readers, if there are any) to yobit users?

Yeah, I can't figure that out either.

Their entire business model at the moment seems to be to attract spammers. They pay the worst of the spammers on here to advertise, and they pay literally anyone to post anything over there, including non stop spamming in the competition. They are attracting spammers who are willing to "work" for 10 cents per post.

At some point they need to turn a profit, right? But what profit can they expect from their user base? People who are willing to spend several hours a day spamming posts for 2 or 3 dollars worth of bitcoin aren't exactly going to be trading large volumes, even if they did start using YoBit. Similarly, they could maybe charge for ad slots, but what kind of return are crypto companies going to see advertising to these users with very poor knowledge of crypto and only a few thousands satoshi to their name?

virasog

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Quote from: TryNinja on November 01, 2019, 01:11:05 AM

Quote from: virasog on November 01, 2019, 01:05:37 AM

Yes, i also see the site is back up and running now.
You can't compare bitcointalk downtime with cryptotalk. Bitcointalk is there for 10 years and any downtime will not bring any scam issues in mind. But if the cryptotalk is down, then many possibility and fear come in the mind because the site is fairly new one.

My point is that downtime =/= scam. Specially if you say this a couple of hours after the website went down.

I can compare it because it's a downtime, that every website has.

Also, what would even be the point of paying 10 BTC for a month of signature campaign, plus ~2 BTC for their users to post, to then shutdown the website to not pay 1 BTC? lol

The site is up so that clears all the confusions.

But its not about the money, its about the results which they want to achieve.
Do you think by spending 12 btc they have achieved all what is expected ? I doubt. Every forum requires quality posting rather than the spam posters to be a successful one.

nutildah

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 31, 2019, 12:54:18 PM

Finally the spammers contest is over and cryptokram winning this by making 3902 posts in around a months time.

That forum is a heaven for the spammers.

That's simply astounding. It averages out to about 10 posts per hour, 12 hours a day, every day for the month. I tried reading through their forum last week and was not shocked to discover its absolute trash. I wonder what their end goal is... somehow converting those users (or readers, if there are any) to yobit users?

TryNinja

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Quote from: virasog on November 01, 2019, 01:05:37 AM

Yes, i also see the site is back up and running now.
You can't compare bitcointalk downtime with cryptotalk. Bitcointalk is there for 10 years and any downtime will not bring any scam issues in mind. But if the cryptotalk is down, then many possibility and fear come in the mind because the site is fairly new one.

My point is that downtime =/= scam. Specially if you say this a couple of hours after the website went down.

I can compare it because it's a downtime, that every website has.

Also, what would even be the point of paying 10 BTC for a month of signature campaign, plus ~2 BTC for their users to post, to then shutdown the website to not pay 1 BTC? lol

virasog

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Quote from: TryNinja on November 01, 2019, 12:33:51 AM

Quote from: virasog on November 01, 2019, 12:08:19 AM

They have not yet paid to the 1 BTC contest to anyone and the site is down now. Is there any twist in the game ?

https://i.imgur.com/17F6PGz.png

It's back now. Downtime happens all the time. Wasn't BitcoinTalk also down 1-2 weeks ago?

I doubt they would scam like this while their signature campaign is running.

Yes, i also see the site is back up and running now.
You can't compare bitcointalk downtime with cryptotalk. Bitcointalk is there for 10 years and any downtime will not bring any scam issues in mind. But if the cryptotalk is down, then many possibility and fear come in the mind because the site is fairly new one.

TryNinja

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Quote from: virasog on November 01, 2019, 12:08:19 AM

They have not yet paid to the 1 BTC contest to anyone and the site is down now. Is there any twist in the game ?

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/14/blobba7f7266fad5590a.png

It's back now. Downtime happens all the time. Wasn't BitcoinTalk also down 1-2 weeks ago?

I doubt they would scam like this while their signature campaign is running.

virasog

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They have not yet paid to the 1 BTC contest to anyone and the site is down now. Is there any twist in the game ?

FIFA worldcup

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Quote from: LoyceV on October 31, 2019, 02:03:02 PM

Quote from: TryNinja on October 31, 2019, 01:14:22 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these are actually the same person or the brother/father/mother/wife of each other. In some places, 1 BTC is actually worth years of their salary. Spamming all day for this prize really pays off.

With 4000 posts in a month, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the exact opposite this time: the entire family uses the same account to spam. I'm glad Yobit wants them so badly, I hope they continue this contest to keep'm there Cheesy

This contest of highest post count is over but the promotion of 1000 sat per Post is still active. They will keep some form of incentive for posting to keep the forum alive forever and spammers happy. Cheesy

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Quote from: LoyceV on October 31, 2019, 02:03:02 PM

I'm glad Yobit wants them so badly

I mean, just look at his insightful and meaningful posts:

Quote from: cryptokram https://cryptotalk.org/topic/5396-learn-how-to-avoid-phishing-email-scam/page/4/?tab=comments#comment-376174

THis is true and you should be aware of this , before i dont use any email but this yahoo thing.their rocketmail.com, yahoomail.com and yahoo.com. i now use GMAIL only and dont forget to have its security.

Quote from: cryptokram https://cryptotalk.org/topic/15411-do-you-believe-crypto-currency-is-changing-the-world/page/6/?tab=comments#comment-369590

I think only bitcoin can do that not the cryptocurrency itself😊 But I can't deny that crypto nowadays are too popular too already in the entire world now also. but does not mean it can change the world.

Quote from: cryptokram https://cryptotalk.org/topic/7985-are-there-any-chances-to-recover-of-these-coins/?tab=comments#comment-369139

These must be expected by many here in the forum, where most of the altcoins will follows bitcoin trend in the market are those token that has a full of potential to bounce the price to the moon.

With such invaluable contributions as those, who wouldn't want to keep him around!?

TryNinja

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Quote from: LoyceV on October 31, 2019, 02:03:02 PM

With 4000 posts in a month, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the exact opposite this time: the entire family uses the same account to spam. I'm glad Yobit wants them so badly, I hope they continue this contest to keep'm there Cheesy

That's funny for you to say. Cheesy

Is it fair to use group for posting, to reach top of the competition?

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Do you think it will be a fair idea to create a group and post from one single account so that they can reach the top?

This is what happening in reality. cryptokram is posting 24 hours for last couple of days. It's possible if someone posts 24 hour only on single day but he is doing this for couple of days now. I have checked his post history, you are also welcome to check his post history for the last couple of days. [...]

cryptokram was the guy that won the 1 BTC, btw.

LoyceV

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Quote from: TryNinja on October 31, 2019, 01:14:22 PM

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these are actually the same person or the brother/father/mother/wife of each other. In some places, 1 BTC is actually worth years of their salary. Spamming all day for this prize really pays off.

With 4000 posts in a month, I wouldn't be surprised if it's the exact opposite this time: the entire family uses the same account to spam. I'm glad Yobit wants them so badly, I hope they continue this contest to keep'm there Cheesy

TryNinja

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Quote from: FIFA worldcup on October 31, 2019, 12:54:18 PM

Finally the spammers contest is over and cryptokram winning this by making 3902 posts in around a months time.

That forum is a heaven for the spammers.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of these are actually the same person or the brother/father/mother/wife of each other. In some places, 1 BTC is actually worth years of their salary. Spamming all day for this prize really pays off.

FIFA worldcup

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Congratulations to Contest Winners:

1. cryptokram 3902 - 1 btc
2. xBDT Script 3512 - 0.2 btc
3. Dimarrik 3191 - 0.2 btc
4. Кyкypyзa 3055 - 0.2 btc
5. Pyatka 2977 - 0.2 btc
6. Gorigor 2798 - 0.1 btc
7. okela 2548 - 0.1 btc
8. trader_999 2468 - 0.1 btc
9. kokoska 2412 - 0.1 btc
10. YoCoin 2299 - 0.1 btc
11. hexwin 2296 - 0.1 btc

Finally the spammers contest is over and cryptokram winning this by making 3902 posts in around a months time.

That forum is a heaven for the spammers.

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Quote from: IIV on October 29, 2019, 01:04:30 PM

Why are we even talking about a contest in another forum here? Is this forum now policing every online forums?

Its because they are promoting their forum on bitcointalk. So this is quite reasonable to discuss on this forum. Not really this forum policing any other online forum, and will not. But as a forum member you may discuss about any crypto related thing on this forum. It doesn't mean forum itself policing any others. There won't competitor of bitcointalk like there is no competitor bitcoin. I have seen couple of forum advertised their forum on bitcointalk and they had paid for posting on their forum. But eventually they are ended up (fucked up) with zero result. If forum itself is paying for posting that means they are just encouraging more spam instead. And regarding 1BTC competition, most likely it would manipulate and this forum have no business with cryptotalk. So we can't take any action even there is happening pure manipulation.

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Quote from: suchmoon on October 28, 2019, 09:23:17 AM

I'm shocked that a forum paying 10 cents per post and giving a 1 BTC prize for most posts would have spam and cheating in it. Unthinkable.

Well, I highly doubt they'll pay it and if they do, I'll go donate my kidneys (yeah, both) for free. Grin

You're shocked, but I'm ridiculed by their 10 cents per post and people are posting shit there and none of the content is good. I don't think they're trying to create a better forum with healthy discussions over Bitcoins and everything that relates to crypto, but are rather into getting it filled with asses who just want to spam the hell out there while bumping their forum every minute (or even second) to gain those few cents. Can't believe my eyes that people here are advocating that if you just plagiarize your own content and post it there, then that's fine. Wtf? What's the meaning of a new forum when everything is just going to be a copy-paste? Is Cryptotalk fine to be called off as a copycat of Bitcointalk?

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 29, 2019, 02:52:11 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 29, 2019, 01:11:25 PM

I’d rather lick a dogs asshole than join that cess pool of a forum.

What about a Fox's? Wink

Don't be ridiculous; it only makes sense to compare that forum to undesirable things. Tongue

Couldn't stop laughing my ass off over that comment. Cheesy

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Quote from: o_e_l_e_o on October 29, 2019, 02:52:11 PM

Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 29, 2019, 01:11:25 PM

I’d rather lick a dogs asshole than join that cess pool of a forum.

What about a Fox's? Wink

Don't be ridiculous; it only makes sense to compare that forum to undesirable things. Tongue

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This seems ridiculous to most people, but in fact a lot of newcomers will cry later.
Most Russian people are very gambling and careless. If the owner of this cryptocurrency exchange spends $ 1 million on advertising, then he will then deceive the newcomers in the amount of 3, 5 or 10 times more. This is how a fraudulent business in Russia works.
And then thousands of cheated newcomers will scream that cryptocurrency is scam and fraud.

o_e_l_e_o

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on October 29, 2019, 01:11:25 PM

I’d rather lick a dogs asshole than join that cess pool of a forum.

What about a Fox's? Wink

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Quote from: NR 007 on October 29, 2019, 11:51:03 AM

In my opinion, only 20-30% of yobit participants are good and helpful writers, the rest are spammers.

I wouldn't even put a high number like 20% to this forum's quality.

Roughly 2% of this forum contributes to substantial posting.
If we're talking about CryptoTalk, I'd put the number around 0.1%. Probably even less.

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