CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 297.

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Quote from: Libertymind on January 17, 2016, 08:48:00 PM

Horus:
AS FAR AS I KNOW. No crime was committed by Paul. Paul is good people, he is working hard.

Wait what?! He is ok with Vern covering the theft for year and a half?! Did he really say that? He posted few times in BCT that if he knew something shady was up he would have left... Guess nothing too shady in a small 13000btc cover up.

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 17, 2016, 11:46:59 PM

Quote from: RoomBot on January 17, 2016, 11:45:53 PM

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 17, 2016, 11:32:26 PM

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has anyone actually traced back to see where the lost funds actually came from? also both btc and ltc wallets have something kinda unique to them...... they tend to serialize addresses even if its in their own way... hint hint! find brothers to those addresses and you found the daddy and mamma also!

and it is very easy to find who owned the father address of the wallet!
yes those addresses have coins on them but where did they actually come from?
block explorers do also ip tracking to show where the wallet was when deposited...

everyone simply taking for granted what is said and done by others never really know until you dig yourselves!

class action yes!!!!
but what about all the international users that are not in the USA?
how would they go about claiming anything in that class action?

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Name:   TimeTeller
Posts:   1
Activity:   1
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   July 12, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:22:33 PM

Wow! You sure put in a lot of thought for your first post. I took notes on your mommy and daddy wallet addresses just in case there's a pop-quiz tomorrow. I'm goin' start using that newfound knowledge next time I'm investigating transactions. Hey, besides mommy and daddy wallet addresses, are there also children address viz. the money goes elsewheres?

please explain something.... what point are you trying to prove? and where are you going with your eternal rant and rave?,
yes that was my first post. and???
just simply because you repeat yourself over and over again you have earned hero? well i guess those that lend an ear to it also deserve it!

Dude writes just like Krumblez, who was not warmly received on his big return, just a few pages back....

The dude's a fuckin' idiot!

Well now that's just redundant.

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Quote from: RoomBot on January 17, 2016, 11:45:53 PM

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 17, 2016, 11:32:26 PM

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has anyone actually traced back to see where the lost funds actually came from? also both btc and ltc wallets have something kinda unique to them...... they tend to serialize addresses even if its in their own way... hint hint! find brothers to those addresses and you found the daddy and mamma also!

and it is very easy to find who owned the father address of the wallet!
yes those addresses have coins on them but where did they actually come from?
block explorers do also ip tracking to show where the wallet was when deposited...

everyone simply taking for granted what is said and done by others never really know until you dig yourselves!

class action yes!!!!
but what about all the international users that are not in the USA?
how would they go about claiming anything in that class action?

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Name:   TimeTeller
Posts:   1
Activity:   1
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   July 12, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:22:33 PM

Wow! You sure put in a lot of thought for your first post. I took notes on your mommy and daddy wallet addresses just in case there's a pop-quiz tomorrow. I'm goin' start using that newfound knowledge next time I'm investigating transactions. Hey, besides mommy and daddy wallet addresses, are there also children address viz. the money goes elsewheres?

please explain something.... what point are you trying to prove? and where are you going with your eternal rant and rave?,
yes that was my first post. and???
just simply because you repeat yourself over and over again you have earned hero? well i guess those that lend an ear to it also deserve it!

Dude writes just like Krumblez, who was not warmly received on his big return, just a few pages back....

The dude's a fuckin' idiot!

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Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 17, 2016, 11:32:26 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

has anyone actually traced back to see where the lost funds actually came from? also both btc and ltc wallets have something kinda unique to them...... they tend to serialize addresses even if its in their own way... hint hint! find brothers to those addresses and you found the daddy and mamma also!

and it is very easy to find who owned the father address of the wallet!
yes those addresses have coins on them but where did they actually come from?
block explorers do also ip tracking to show where the wallet was when deposited...

everyone simply taking for granted what is said and done by others never really know until you dig yourselves!

class action yes!!!!
but what about all the international users that are not in the USA?
how would they go about claiming anything in that class action?

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Name:   TimeTeller
Posts:   1
Activity:   1
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   July 12, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:22:33 PM

Wow! You sure put in a lot of thought for your first post. I took notes on your mommy and daddy wallet addresses just in case there's a pop-quiz tomorrow. I'm goin' start using that newfound knowledge next time I'm investigating transactions. Hey, besides mommy and daddy wallet addresses, are there also children address viz. the money goes elsewheres?

please explain something.... what point are you trying to prove? and where are you going with your eternal rant and rave?,
yes that was my first post. and???
just simply because you repeat yourself over and over again you have earned hero? well i guess those that lend an ear to it also deserve it!

Dude writes just like Krumblez, who was not warmly received on his big return, just a few pages back....

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Quote from: Gleb Gamow on January 17, 2016, 11:32:26 PM

Quote from: ?? on ??

has anyone actually traced back to see where the lost funds actually came from? also both btc and ltc wallets have something kinda unique to them...... they tend to serialize addresses even if its in their own way... hint hint! find brothers to those addresses and you found the daddy and mamma also!

and it is very easy to find who owned the father address of the wallet!
yes those addresses have coins on them but where did they actually come from?
block explorers do also ip tracking to show where the wallet was when deposited...

everyone simply taking for granted what is said and done by others never really know until you dig yourselves!

class action yes!!!!
but what about all the international users that are not in the USA?
how would they go about claiming anything in that class action?

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Name:   TimeTeller
Posts:   1
Activity:   1
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   July 12, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:22:33 PM

Wow! You sure put in a lot of thought for your first post. I took notes on your mommy and daddy wallet addresses just in case there's a pop-quiz tomorrow. I'm goin' start using that newfound knowledge next time I'm investigating transactions. Hey, besides mommy and daddy wallet addresses, are there also children address viz. the money goes elsewheres?

please explain something.... what point are you trying to prove? and where are you going with your eternal rant and rave?,
yes that was my first post. and???
just simply because you repeat yourself over and over again you have earned hero? well i guess those that lend an ear to it also deserve it!

Please, enlighten us some more about them IP addresses that the blockchains register. I think you're on to something there. I just checked on one and it showed a dot in the middle of the ocean. I think the transaction stemmed from a person on a cruise. You're a fuckin' genius!

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Here's Rick Stoner's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCUbo5iL7JLbGsCNVP-XG27Q

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Quote from: CartmanSPC on January 17, 2016, 11:33:42 PM

Quote from: o0o0 on January 17, 2016, 11:30:25 PM

Here's another untouched on question that needs to be answered

Shouldn't MN shares be continually being paid.... cause you know there is actual mining going on? Those shares are listed on cryptsy but shouldn't the owners still be getting their mining payouts?

My last MN payment was on 2015-12-09 16:59:57
They stopped with no announcement or explanation.

My guess is with all the shit going down they just didn't care to fix other stuff... makes sense for the other wallets too that were going into maintenance dgb etc.

Then mintsy turned them around and had its way with them.. though I bet cryptsy knew it was risky but they were desperate for any income they could get so invested and declared a partnership.

They just got more fucked over by it. Dishonesty only leads to you hitting rock bottom.. and once that happens there is nowhere else to dig. Can hide in the mud and sling a bit of it around like Horus though.

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Couple of other thoughts...

Maybe the hackers only took alt coins... dash, doge, ltc etc and Paul himself stashed aside the BTC to keep it with the story that's why it hasn't moved and he's waiting for the blame game to show up nothing..? It explains why the alts were moved, mixed spent whatever but the btc hasn't.

Or

Maybe the hackers intention was to bring cryptsy down with all their bs? If that was the case though and I had done it I would of sent half the bitcoin to a wallet and used half of the amount as a trans fee... wouldn't that be hilarious? People seeing a huge mining fee and cryptsy having to come forward and admit it to try and reclaim that fee?

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Quote from: o0o0 on January 17, 2016, 11:30:25 PM

Here's another untouched on question that needs to be answered

Shouldn't MN shares be continually being paid.... cause you know there is actual mining going on? Those shares are listed on cryptsy but shouldn't the owners still be getting their mining payouts?

My last MN payment was on 2015-12-09 16:59:57
They stopped with no announcement or explanation.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

has anyone actually traced back to see where the lost funds actually came from? also both btc and ltc wallets have something kinda unique to them...... they tend to serialize addresses even if its in their own way... hint hint! find brothers to those addresses and you found the daddy and mamma also!

and it is very easy to find who owned the father address of the wallet!
yes those addresses have coins on them but where did they actually come from?
block explorers do also ip tracking to show where the wallet was when deposited...

everyone simply taking for granted what is said and done by others never really know until you dig yourselves!

class action yes!!!!
but what about all the international users that are not in the USA?
how would they go about claiming anything in that class action?

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Name:   TimeTeller
Posts:   1
Activity:   1
Position:   Newbie
Date Registered:   July 12, 2015, 01:07:22 AM
Last Active:   Today at 10:22:33 PM

Wow! You sure put in a lot of thought for your first post. I took notes on your mommy and daddy wallet addresses just in case there's a pop-quiz tomorrow. I'm goin' start using that newfound knowledge next time I'm investigating transactions. Hey, besides mommy and daddy wallet addresses, are there also children address viz. the money goes elsewheres?

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Here's another untouched on question that needs to be answered

Shouldn't MN shares be continually being paid.... cause you know there is actual mining going on? Those shares are listed on cryptsy but shouldn't the owners still be getting their mining payouts?

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Quote from: CartmanSPC on January 17, 2016, 10:16:05 PM

Quote from: craptsy_sucks on January 17, 2016, 08:11:26 PM

Okay, RickStoner (the radio host) says he will be providing a recording, but just in case, I did my best to record the entire thing as well. Towards the end VLC crashed and I missed about 25 seconds, but from what I can tell there wasn't anything interesting in there, just horus and rickstoner looking for questions.

Recording is uploading to Mega now for anyone to download. All rights reserved to RickStoner/DogecoinDarkRadio and Horus, this is strictly for archival purposes. I'll warn you, it's over 2 hours and just about 1.7GB .wav. If anyone has suggestions for streaming it instead i'm open to that. I'll make another post when I have the recording uploaded.

EDIT: exporting in mp3 instead since apparently that's a lot smaller.

OMG, the host was terrible! He did not have an understanding of what "fractional reserve" means and the questions he was asking in that regard were a joke. I'm surprised Horus agreed to be interviewed by this guy and that he continued after some of the questions asked.

I get the impression that Horus is young and generally unexperienced in life. I imagine this situation is teaching him some valuable lessons.

Horus, if you do any further interviews pay attention instead of reading the IRC chat. If you decide to answer a question asked online, verbally restate the question so the listening audience knows what you are answering. Make sure the person interviewing you has the appropriate knowledge to conduct a proper interview.

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You telling me that Rick Stoner wasn't versed to what 'fractional reserve' is given the above?

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Quote from: thunderjet on January 17, 2016, 09:51:39 PM

I was testing possibility that hacker did some test withdrawals before main hack of hot and cold wallet.And I found evidences for that.Few hours before hack, hacker tested his possibilities.

10 hours before attack on hot and 17 hours before attack on cold wallet two transactions identically like in main hack occured at the same time 19:58:44 on 28.July.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8ea29cd8bae4f9ef014b85cba8303872c0edf916ce55982834b5fbeefb1b2b21

sent 2 BTC to 1AcXmrLgZJfWniz4AyrtTsv6KaTSfGvhp6, which remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89ccb44e6ebae0e0e76fdc75eff1b30745251ceafd1f1d2b13c668b867a7c25f

sent 1.549 BTC to 1D8qGtKB7eD7j9ZYhyKiC13xE2v4uHYckr, which also remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet

I also found string of small unspent transactions to the wallet , which I believe hacker used for making tests over months.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/07af4436d470e90f5a91003cf92278e6b90158558394b4c9af7a783514ffcfcd

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d7ae42681bed0255 - 1NBeewMkKsZ9Uw8KuE1i1hJbMQenfXuEUx

If you look at this wallet you can see string of small unspent transactions from Cryptsy hot wallet over few months from 02.May.2014 till 29.July.2014.Last transaction in this wallet occured just 7 hours before hack 01:41:22, 29.July.2014

After 29.July.2014 ,not at single transaction in or out of this wallet happenned.

That was a hot wallet not a cold wallet where those 2 BTC stemmed from: https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8ea29cd8bae4f9ef014b85cba8303872c0edf916ce55982834b5fbeefb1b2b21

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Quote from: coinits on January 17, 2016, 09:17:14 PM

Quote from: Libertymind on January 17, 2016, 08:48:00 PM

Horus:
AS FAR AS I KNOW. No crime was committed by Paul. Paul is good people, he is working hard.

Let's assume he did not steal the crypto. The fact that he and anyone else at Crapsy did not report a theft of client deposits is, in itself, a crime. It's a federal crime. More than Big Vern will be going to prison over this.

That's what I was Googling for when opting to pen my last post above. I'm sure such is true in Canada as well, eh?

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Quote from: thundertoe on January 17, 2016, 09:11:36 PM

Quote from: Libertymind on January 17, 2016, 08:48:00 PM

Horus:
AS FAR AS I KNOW. No crime was committed. Paul is good people, he is working hard.

and that explains why he was fine with just taking somebody else's word "oh yeah i called the authorities(while he cuts and runs to china)" as good enough and as far as i know has not reported anything to anyone, which strikes me as odd coming from a wanna be cop with supposed training in law enforcement.

Hmmm! I wonder what the penalty is for a person who obtained a degree in law enforcement after 9/11 and is now party to an unreported missing ~$10M USD worth of cryptocurrency now in control of an entity which may be a terrorist - for all we know - given that Paul Vernon has recently secretly travel the world meeting up with who knows who.

I'm sure that'll look great on Horus' CV to go along with donating yet-to-proven ~$84 USD worth of stuffed animals to his Masonic Lodge for Christmas presents to children and...

Here's another question I don't believe has been asked yet: Exactly which IRS form did Paul Vernon use to claim Cryptsy's millions of dollars theft on his 2015 filing for fiscal year 2014?

Paul Vernon: Bruno, you're really grasping at straws now! Rest assured that I DID contact the IRS asking them which form I should use and they told me that no such form exist so I didn't have to file said theft amount, albeit I did write it off as an expense so to lower my tax liability to zero dollars since more went out than came in during 2014. Now, go fuck with Leroy Fodor and leave my venerable ass alone.

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Quote from: CartmanSPC on January 17, 2016, 10:16:05 PM

Quote from: craptsy_sucks on January 17, 2016, 08:11:26 PM

Okay, RickStoner (the radio host) says he will be providing a recording, but just in case, I did my best to record the entire thing as well. Towards the end VLC crashed and I missed about 25 seconds, but from what I can tell there wasn't anything interesting in there, just horus and rickstoner looking for questions.

Recording is uploading to Mega now for anyone to download. All rights reserved to RickStoner/DogecoinDarkRadio and Horus, this is strictly for archival purposes. I'll warn you, it's over 2 hours and just about 1.7GB .wav. If anyone has suggestions for streaming it instead i'm open to that. I'll make another post when I have the recording uploaded.

EDIT: exporting in mp3 instead since apparently that's a lot smaller.

OMG, the host was terrible! He did not have an understanding of what "fractional reserve" means and the questions he was asking in that regard were a joke. I'm surprised Horus agreed to be interviewed by this guy and that he continued after some of the questions asked.

I get the impression that Horus is young and generally unexperienced in life. I imagine this situation is teaching him some valuable lessons.

Horus, if you do any further interviews paying attention instead of reading the IRC chat. If you decide to answer a question asked online verbally restate the question so the listening audience knows what you are answering. Make sure the person interviewing you has the appropriate knowledge to conduct a proper interview.

To be fair i don't think this host has ever done professional radio work. Horus was an absolute embarrassment, constantly getting distracted by IRC and not listening to Rick ask questions and needing them repeated two or more times.
Horus, my own advice if you want it from an internet stranger is to pick up a public speaking 101 book or take a course at the local community college before you do another interview. that was a total fucking mess.

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Quote from: craptsy_sucks on January 17, 2016, 08:11:26 PM

Okay, RickStoner (the radio host) says he will be providing a recording, but just in case, I did my best to record the entire thing as well. Towards the end VLC crashed and I missed about 25 seconds, but from what I can tell there wasn't anything interesting in there, just horus and rickstoner looking for questions.

Recording is uploading to Mega now for anyone to download. All rights reserved to RickStoner/DogecoinDarkRadio and Horus, this is strictly for archival purposes. I'll warn you, it's over 2 hours and just about 1.7GB .wav. If anyone has suggestions for streaming it instead i'm open to that. I'll make another post when I have the recording uploaded.

EDIT: exporting in mp3 instead since apparently that's a lot smaller.

OMG, the host was terrible! He did not have an understanding of what "fractional reserve" means and the questions he was asking in that regard were a joke. I'm surprised Horus agreed to be interviewed by this guy and that he continued after some of the questions asked.

I get the impression that Horus is young and generally unexperienced in life. I imagine this situation is teaching him some valuable lessons.

Horus, if you do any further interviews pay attention instead of reading the IRC chat. If you decide to answer a question asked online, verbally restate the question so the listening audience knows what you are answering. Make sure the person interviewing you has the appropriate knowledge to conduct a proper interview.

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I was testing possibility that hacker did some test withdrawals before main hack of hot and cold wallet.And I found evidences for that.Few hours before hack, hacker tested his possibilities.

10 hours before attack on hot and 17 hours before attack on cold wallet two transactions identically like in main hack occured at the same time 19:58:44 on 28.July.2014 :

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/8ea29cd8bae4f9ef014b85cba8303872c0edf916ce55982834b5fbeefb1b2b21

sent 2 BTC to 1AcXmrLgZJfWniz4AyrtTsv6KaTSfGvhp6, which remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/89ccb44e6ebae0e0e76fdc75eff1b30745251ceafd1f1d2b13c668b867a7c25f

sent 1.549 BTC to 1D8qGtKB7eD7j9ZYhyKiC13xE2v4uHYckr, which also remain unspent till now and only tx in that wallet

I also found string of small unspent transactions to the wallet , which I believe hacker used for making tests over months.

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/07af4436d470e90f5a91003cf92278e6b90158558394b4c9af7a783514ffcfcd

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/d7ae42681bed0255 - 1NBeewMkKsZ9Uw8KuE1i1hJbMQenfXuEUx

If you look at this wallet you can see string of small unspent transactions from Cryptsy hot wallet over few months from 02.May.2014 till 29.July.2014.Last transaction in this wallet occured just 7 hours before hack 01:41:22, 29.July.2014

After 29.July.2014 ,not at single transaction in or out of this wallet happenned.

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BTC or BUST

Paul Vernon, Cryptsy’s CEO, Seems To Have Flown To China

"I have been following the IP address of Paul Vernon for a few weeks now, using IP address resolvers for one of his social media accounts and instant messaging applications. Today, Paul Vern has signed in from an IP address located in China (175.170.56.79). The geolocation data from EurekAPI denote that this IP address is broadcast from a city called Dalian, located in Liaoning, China."
https://archive.is/azdHg#selection-1091.0-1091.387

Isn't Dalian, Liaoning, China the same as on that bitebi9 whois?

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