BigVern really needs to go to jail for this shit.
Selling off coins that were not stolen is a Huge NONO.
If they had came clean when they figured out what happend maybe no jail but Selling off coins like Dash and Eth that don't belong to you is Criminal behavior.
At least 1 year jail time per million usd missing imo preferably more.
Don't let this scammer escape the country please.
Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 309. (Read 1006940 times)
January 16, 2016, 07:30:24 PM
January 16, 2016, 07:26:10 PM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/
Hello?
Wake up buddy - it's gone. Over. Goodbye.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/
They have updated it, read!
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began."
You guys called it! It was all COINFIRE's fault! /s
http://blog.cryptsy.com/post/137323646202/announcement#notes
"Carmilla, get your own damn pole! This one's reserved for Festivus."
January 16, 2016, 07:16:04 PM
Anyone else regarding this as a great time to buy, ratjer than a killer crash? Butcoin always bounces back 
Way to go, dude, pouring salt in the wounds of those who have their rent moneys tied up in Cryptsy wishing they had said funds so that they can take advantage of a bear market to augment their rent moneys to make rent moneys.
January 16, 2016, 07:15:16 PM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/
Hello?
Wake up buddy - it's gone. Over. Goodbye.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/
They have updated it, read!
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began."
You guys called it! It was all COINFIRE's fault! /s
Ironically, that 2014 article didn't stop some dude from depositing over ten grand into Cryptsy last December, nor thousands of dudes and dudettes like him - Investards - in spite of the hundreds of warning signs saying STOP!
January 16, 2016, 07:12:08 PM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/
Hello?
Wake up buddy - it's gone. Over. Goodbye.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/
They have updated it, read!
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began."
You guys called it! It was all COINFIRE's fault! /s
Ironically, that 2014 article didn't stop some dude from depositing over ten grand into Cryptsy last December, nor thousands of dudes and dudettes like him - Investards - in spite of the hundreds of warning signs saying STOP!
January 16, 2016, 07:08:37 PM
Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
It means Mullick is now complicit in the entire thing. Not only was their an infected wallet they never disclosed this to their public for the clients wallets nor as something naughty being Fincen registered right?
I don't think Mullicks ignorance will hold up. The guy ran ages ago... I think he realised sooner than the rest and the fact that he didn't report it means he allowed it to continue as well.
But that wallet commit Mullick did at Apr 23 2015 was public, right? And in that time everybody knew L7C was running on Cryptsy. Why didn't that cause a shitstorm? The other strange thing is, when Cryptsy knew this coin was fraudulent, why the fuck didn't hey remove the coin from asap at that time?
January 16, 2016, 07:08:19 PM
I hate to break the news THE RABBIT HOLE go s a lot further as I look at the blockchain!! This will be the BIGGEST THEFT IN CRYPTO to go down in HISTORY!!!!! 
Hate to break it to you, but MtGox lost something like 850,000 BTC (worth $1000 each at the time)... GOXtsy is still much lower than MtGox
$850,000,000 vs $12,700,000
I don't think all the maths are in just yet...
All the maths is in because the figures are based on exchange rates on the days of the respective thefts. Bitcoin could go to ten grand a coin and the dollar amounts would remain the same.
January 16, 2016, 07:04:33 PM
Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
It means Mullick is now complicit in the entire thing. Not only was their an infected wallet they never disclosed this to their public for the clients wallets nor as something naughty being Fincen registered right?
I don't think Mullicks ignorance will hold up. The guy ran ages ago... I think he realised sooner than the rest and the fact that he didn't report it means he allowed it to continue as well.
January 16, 2016, 07:02:51 PM
I really wish those people that video interviewed Vern at the time asked the direct question
Vern, does cryptsy have in combined cold wallets and hot wallets for ALL coins listed on cryptsy the same balance as per user holdings.
I.e does your wallet cold and hot have funds = to what is in customer balances and trades.
I love how vern thinks its appropriate to get the community to help him track our own coins down when in the past he couldn't be a community team player himself.
And that bounty.... does vern actually have it and want to put it in reliable escrow? Is that 1000btc just another chunk of customer funds?
Verns seen how this played out for karpeles. He's either going to mix the bitcoin while this news is out under the guise its the hacker moving it and then go rot in prison for a small time then come out and cash out or he's fled somewhere he can't be called back from and will get the funds then.
I don't think Verns as dumb as everyone thinks. He's planned it for a while and if his staff are to be believed he even locks them away from what they don't need to see. Cmon he was buddies with Garza over the emails what does that tell you?
Vern, does cryptsy have in combined cold wallets and hot wallets for ALL coins listed on cryptsy the same balance as per user holdings.
I.e does your wallet cold and hot have funds = to what is in customer balances and trades.
I love how vern thinks its appropriate to get the community to help him track our own coins down when in the past he couldn't be a community team player himself.
And that bounty.... does vern actually have it and want to put it in reliable escrow? Is that 1000btc just another chunk of customer funds?
Verns seen how this played out for karpeles. He's either going to mix the bitcoin while this news is out under the guise its the hacker moving it and then go rot in prison for a small time then come out and cash out or he's fled somewhere he can't be called back from and will get the funds then.
I don't think Verns as dumb as everyone thinks. He's planned it for a while and if his staff are to be believed he even locks them away from what they don't need to see. Cmon he was buddies with Garza over the emails what does that tell you?
January 16, 2016, 07:00:23 PM
Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
On May 12, 2015, BitJohn tags him as the wallet manager.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.13578049
January 16, 2016, 06:59:35 PM
Maybe it's crazy but this and other similar situations of coins being stolen demonstrates the benefit of having a way to reverse transactions.
Perhaps we should consider a mechanism to reverse a transaction through a vote or consensus. Haven't fully thought out how this could work but it is something to consider.
Something could be designed to allow miners to reverse a specific transaction (and all subequest tx's) through majority consensus in extreme situations such as this.
Mistakes and thefts happen. Fiat banks have the ability to correct mistakes and reverse transactions unless the funds are withdrawn for cash.
I dunno...just thinking out loud.
Perhaps we should consider a mechanism to reverse a transaction through a vote or consensus. Haven't fully thought out how this could work but it is something to consider.
Something could be designed to allow miners to reverse a specific transaction (and all subequest tx's) through majority consensus in extreme situations such as this.
Mistakes and thefts happen. Fiat banks have the ability to correct mistakes and reverse transactions unless the funds are withdrawn for cash.
I dunno...just thinking out loud.
The only issue with reverse transactions, bitcoin would turn into a world like PayPal where people buy items, then immediately try and reverse a transaction.
This can be abused to hell.
This is completely contrary to the whole point of crypto. Might as well also suggest a central authority to determine which transactions are legit and which ones need to be reversed.
Exactly charge back hell !
Are we having a game here of shouting bad ideas ?
Sorry if I missed any quotes.Are we having a game here of shouting bad ideas ?
Yes, but majority miner consensus is difficult to achieve...it would work using the same mechanism in place necessary for a fork of BTC itself and we can see how hard that has been with the recent BIP 101 failure. It would be useless on coins with little hashrate since it would be too easy to fork but those coins are worthless without a decent hashrate anyways.
...but this is conversion to be had in a different topic where cooler heads prevail. This proposed change (BIP) to do a consensus reversal may be exactly what's needed to improve acceptance and the security of BTC. IMHO
January 16, 2016, 06:56:58 PM
Ok, so tell me, why didn't anyone noticed earlier Cryptsy was running an infected wallet?
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
@Mullick committed on Apr 23, 2015
https://github.com/Mullick/lucky7coin/commit/799b0b6b65a8fdd827d0d1406868d34a045ea779
January 16, 2016, 06:55:12 PM
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false true accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves got hacked 19 months ago and lost our reserves for those currencies problems began."
Fixed your Vern quote
January 16, 2016, 06:52:04 PM
I hate to break the news THE RABBIT HOLE go s a lot further as I look at the blockchain!! This will be the BIGGEST THEFT IN CRYPTO to go down in HISTORY!!!!!
Hate to break it to you, but MtGox lost something like 850,000 BTC (worth $1000 each at the time)... GOXtsy is still much lower than MtGox
$850,000,000 vs $12,700,000
Lets wait for the TOTAL ! Theirs a lot moreBTC addys to trace!
January 16, 2016, 06:50:47 PM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/
Hello?
Wake up buddy - it's gone. Over. Goodbye.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/
They have updated it, read!
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began."
You guys called it! It was all COINFIRE's fault! /s
January 16, 2016, 06:49:33 PM
So my concern like others now are the coins that "weren't" stolen. Every other coin other than btc and ltc on there right? Or were the other alts sold into btc and ltc and then stolen? There must be a clear report of what is left. Can we get some sort of list up to show remaining balances left with proof they are still holding? If not cryptsy should provide one. These must be returned as if they go missing I will go mental! Even though we were trading last night. Did those btc really exist or was it just numbers on a screen. Doesn't help that cryptsy has gone offline now either lol
Here is a list of what I know/believe to be stolen from Craptsy: (have not seen info on other altcoins)
$6.63M in BTC (11,325 @$585) https://blockchain.info/tx/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf
$1.88M in LTC (247,508 @0.013 BTC) http://ltc.blockr.io/tx/info/61e61a63f35c951a16870df9e0a34df462ee473fde819d134da9485d2e7d8f44
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
Up to $12.72M so far (prices on July 29, 2014)...
$1.88M in LTC (247,508 @0.013 BTC) http://ltc.blockr.io/tx/info/61e61a63f35c951a16870df9e0a34df462ee473fde819d134da9485d2e7d8f44
$2.16M in Dash (456,501 @0.081 BTC) http://explorer.dash.org/tx/ba798890d98936115001f69333956b558a4856c162516cb3ab46a6455de7a1eb
$2.05M in DOGE (9.727B @0.00000036 BTC) https://bitinfocharts.com/dogecoin/address/DN27P1saQQ1fYesKP1LHT5MdSXBpgqka85
Up to $12.72M so far (prices on July 29, 2014)...
Nice one Melech. Now how do we go about checking the other wallet amounts?
It all happened within a few hours, July 29, 2014 around 13:00-17:00 UTC... feel free to check altcoin blockchains for large tx during that 4-hour window...
From my calculations, the 'inside job' started ~9 hours earlier: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173703.msg13574270;topicseen#msg13574270
January 16, 2016, 06:38:57 PM
Anyone else regarding this as a great time to buy, ratjer than a killer crash? Butcoin always bounces back
January 16, 2016, 06:33:45 PM
I hate to break the news THE RABBIT HOLE go s a lot further as I look at the blockchain!! This will be the BIGGEST THEFT IN CRYPTO to go down in HISTORY!!!!!
Hate to break it to you, but MtGox lost something like 850,000 BTC (worth $1000 each at the time)... GOXtsy is still much lower than MtGox
$850,000,000 vs $12,700,000
I don't think all the maths are in just yet...
Yeah but to be fair the comments from that banskter sellout Mike Hearn need to be on there too. And all the various times and places where his comments were reposted or reported in the news. I am inclined to believe the drop has a lot more to do with that than it does crypt-sty.
The whole thing is fucked up.. But I'm a buyer of BTC after they beat it up enough. The prime-time media has not kicked in yet. Still long on crypto! just wanna see vern's ass in prison..
....PRICELESS
January 16, 2016, 06:26:03 PM
Can anybody confirm their Cryptsy BTC balance? I cannot at this present time, gives me a zero balance. :/
Hello?
Wake up buddy - it's gone. Over. Goodbye.
http://blog.cryptsy.com/
They have updated it, read!
"It wasn’t until an article from Coinfire came out that contained many false accusations that things began to crumble. The article basically caused a bank-run, and since we only had so much in reserves for those currencies problems began."
You guys called it! It was all COINFIRE's fault! /s
January 16, 2016, 06:25:36 PM
I hate to break the news THE RABBIT HOLE go s a lot further as I look at the blockchain!! This will be the BIGGEST THEFT IN CRYPTO to go down in HISTORY!!!!!
Hate to break it to you, but MtGox lost something like 850,000 BTC (worth $1000 each at the time)... GOXtsy is still much lower than MtGox
$850,000,000 vs $12,700,000
I don't think all the maths are in just yet...
Yeah but to be fair the comments from that banskter sellout Mike Hearn need to be on there too. And all the various times and places where his comments were reposted or reported in the news. I am inclined to believe the drop has a lot more to do with that than it does crypt-sty.
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