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Topic: CRYPTSY stopping withdraw locking accounts without notifying users! Class Action - page 337. (Read 1007075 times)

vip
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He really need to give all details on the other alt transactions as well.

We need to see the ltc and other coins "steal" events. all of them.

Also the code for the trojan, logs, etc.

I assume that Vern got paid... 

Vern bought a million dollar house about a year ago.

Yeah, but if he would've used that money, there still would've been about five million dollars outstanding, thus wouldn't have made much of a difference, so new house it was so that he could enjoy fucking the living shit outta his petite Asian wife till she left his scammy ass and is probably now fucking Bubba's throughout Miami, not counting the well-hung white dudes every day of the week. HAHAHA
legendary
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Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?

[email protected]

[email protected]

Have a lawyer send a demand letter. Join the class action that Silver Law filed and I'm sure it will be part of what is collected during the discovery process.

I'm from Russia and not sure in which action i can participate? Will Silver Law take my case? (40btc stuck on cryptsy)

Sure. That would not be a problem at all.
vip
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So basically Mullick approved the Lucky7Coin wallet that was infected.  That was his job after all.


"Spoiler Dog says it was Mullick. It's soooooooo obvious. You should've see that one coming. I knew it wasn't the sister."
legendary
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Here's some info for Paul Vernon on obstruction of justice:

A: Obstruction may consist of any attempt to hinder the discovery, apprehension, conviction or punishment of anyone who has committed a crime. The acts by which justice is obstructed may include bribery, murder, intimidation, and the use of physical force against witnesses, law enforcement officers or court officials.


http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=0800-0899/0843/0843.html



The 2015 Florida Statutes


Title XLVI
CRIMES
Chapter 843
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE
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CHAPTER 843
OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE

843.14 Compounding felony.

Pay attention to this part Paul:

843.14 Compounding felony.—Whoever, having knowledge of the commission of an offense punishable with death or by imprisonment in the state prison, takes money or a gratuity or reward, or an engagement therefor, upon an agreement or understanding, expressed or implied, to compound or conceal such offense, or not to prosecute therefor, or not to give evidence thereof, shall when such offense of which he or she has knowledge is punishable with death or imprisonment in the state prison for life, be guilty of a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084; and where the offense of which he or she so had knowledge was punishable in any other manner, he or she shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
History.—s. 20, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2592; GS 3513; RGS 5399; CGL 7540; s. 1047, ch. 71-136; s. 1344, ch. 97-102.

You'are also looking at possible charges for being an accessory after the fact and aiding and abetting.

777.03 Accessory after the fact.—
(1)(a) Any person not standing in the relation of husband or wife, parent or grandparent, child or grandchild, brother or sister, by consanguinity or affinity to the offender, who maintains or assists the principal or an accessory before the fact, or gives the offender any other aid, knowing that the offender had committed a crime and such crime was a third degree felony, or had been an accessory thereto before the fact, with the intent that the offender avoids or escapes detection, arrest, trial, or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
(b) Any person who maintains or assists the principal or accessory before the fact, or gives the offender any other aid, knowing that the offender had committed the offense of child abuse, neglect of a child, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child under 18 years of age, or murder of a child under 18 years of age, or had been an accessory thereto before the fact, with the intent that the offender avoids or escapes detection, arrest, trial, or punishment, is an accessory after the fact unless the court finds that the person is a victim of domestic violence.
(c) Any person who maintains or assists the principal or an accessory before the fact, or gives the offender any other aid, knowing that the offender had committed a crime and such crime was a capital, life, first degree, or second degree felony, or had been an accessory thereto before the fact, with the intent that the offender avoids or escapes detection, arrest, trial, or punishment, is an accessory after the fact.
(2)(a) If the felony offense committed is a capital felony, the offense of accessory after the fact is a felony of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(b) If the felony offense committed is a life felony or a felony of the first degree, the offense of accessory after the fact is a felony of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(c) If the felony offense committed is a felony of the second degree or a felony of the third degree ranked in level 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, or 10 under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023, the offense of accessory after the fact is a felony of the third degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(d) If the felony offense committed is a felony of the third degree ranked in level 1 or level 2 under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023, the offense of accessory after the fact is a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082, s. 775.083, or s. 775.084.
(3) Except as otherwise provided in s. 921.0022, for purposes of sentencing under chapter 921 and determining incentive gain-time eligibility under chapter 944, the offense of accessory after the fact is ranked two levels below the ranking under s. 921.0022 or s. 921.0023 of the felony offense committed.
History.—s. 6, sub-ch. 11, ch. 1637, 1868; RS 2356; GS 3180; RGS 5010; CGL 7112; s. 700, ch. 71-136; s. 65, ch. 74-383; s. 13, ch. 95-184; s. 16, ch. 97-194; s. 15, ch. 99-168; s. 2, ch. 2006-237.
Note.—Former s. 776.03.

777.011 Principal in first degree.—Whoever commits any criminal offense against the state, whether felony or misdemeanor, or aids, abets, counsels, hires, or otherwise procures such offense to be committed, and such offense is committed or is attempted to be committed, is a principal in the first degree and may be charged, convicted, and punished as such, whether he or she is or is not actually or constructively present at the commission of such offense.
History.—s. 1, ch. 57-310; s. 11, ch. 74-383; s. 1194, ch. 97-102.
Note.—Former s. 776.011.


Aiding and abetting (You may as well have stolen the money yourself.):
220.905 Aiding and abetting.—Any person who aids, abets, counsels, or conspires to commit any of the acts described in s. 220.901 or s. 220.903 shall be subject to fine or imprisonment to the same extent as the perpetrator of such act.
History.—s. 19, ch. 71-359; s. 80, ch. 91-112.
Note.—Former s. 214.62.

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Florida AG (file your complaints): http://myfloridalegal.com/ Pam Bondi fucking hot like a playmate from the 80's and she's going to make a career out of roasting Paul Vernon and his cohorts. Catching a MTGox-style criminal like Paul is like finding a diamond under your pillow. I bet they sweep your ass up this week if you are in Florida.



legendary
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"Team is working hard to fix all technical issues..."
vip
Activity: 1428
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so let me see if I get it...


They got hacked over a year ago and didn't bother to report it? The theft of customers money and they said nothing???

they continued to take in new money and let little bits trickle out... I assume that Vern got paid...

How is this not a ponzi scam?


The feds will be all over this in a matter of days, and will tear the place apart to look for evidence if there is any left to find.
Do you think the admins knew what was happening? If there is any email evidence anywhere that they knew, are they going to jail with Vern?
 

Trust me on this one. There's emails. And they're about to be released. HAHAHA

How do you like them apples, Paul? HAHAHA
hero member
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I am very disappointed by the Mods and Admins... "all ok, we working hard, blablabla"  Sad
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
if our altcoins were sold to compensate for btc loss - that stinks of intentional premeditated crime / felony

Does that mean Paul Vernon's gonna get fucked in the ass sans lube while grasping bars on a daily basis? If Paul's lucky, his cellmate will have a well-worn copy of The Zen of Ball Cupping.
full member
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Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?

[email protected]

[email protected]

Have a lawyer send a demand letter. Join the class action that Silver Law filed and I'm sure it will be part of what is collected during the discovery process.

I'm from Russia and not sure in which action i can participate? Will Silver Law take my case? (40btc stuck on cryptsy)
vip
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1145
plz define "a couple other"  Huh

A word might be missing there. Couple dozen, couple hundred?


Couple million dollars worth of other cryptocurrencies.
vip
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i like how he wants our input, but really no way to contact them haha. the chat was disabled, wasnt it?

Chat's also disabled on https://www.bitebi9.com/ which in no way is connected to Paul Vernon.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Hey, I know which folks could help Paul Vernon get all his coins back. You're gonna love this! The very dudes that were banned from chat.

vip
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for missing BTC - cryptsy produced an explanation

but why all other altcoins are blocked?

There's not enough money to be made from those transactions to pay for the electricity to keep the lights on, let alone enough to power servers.

I bid $10.62 USD cash money for Cryptsy. We'll conduct the auction like a penny auction with JShock and Ginny handling support. We'll use Leroy Fodor for escrow and Horus can make sure that all the bids are compliant.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1002
Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?

[email protected]

[email protected]

Have a lawyer send a demand letter. Join the class action that Silver Law filed and I'm sure it will be part of what is collected during the discovery process.
newbie
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i find it cute Jagropolite is STILL on their chat kissing ass. (see my SIG link SuperLurk)

And when does cyberpinoy & Terrik pop up saying.. I Told You So ?

Seems staff crying FUD by Trolls with an agenda all over the web were uhhh lying Wink

Guess what ?

..

I TOLD YOU SO


I suspect Jagropolite has known about the issue for a while, He has been systematically FUDing EVERY other exchange, including a 23 page rant from an exchange over 1 (yes 1) withdraw issue, but proceeded to defend and ensure people cryptsy was safe during MONTHS of withdraw issues.

I suspect this was a ploy to try bring more customers to Crypsty in hopes of keeping a float.


He is also heavily involved in a few coins ADT, HTML5 and NYC, so anyone with those coins should look out for similar exploits.


This guy (or girl) knows a LOT more that he is letting on.


My 2 satoshis.
vip
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Some may ask why we didn’t report this to the authorities when this occurred, and the answer is that we just didn’t know what happened, didn’t want to cause panic, and were unsure who exactly we should be contacting.   At one time we had a open communication with Secret Service Agent Shaun Bridges on an unrelated matter, but I think we all know what happened with him – so he was no longer somebody we could report this to.    Recently I attempted to contact the Miami FBI office to report this, but they instead directed me to report it on the I3C website.  I’ve not heard anything from them.
I think the only real people who can assist with this are the people of the Bitcoin community itself.

This is probably the biggest pile of poo in this whole story. You have $5mil stolen and you can't find a way to get the law enforcement on it? In 15+ months?

Gross negligence? Failure to report a crime? This can't be just brushed aside as not wanting "to cause panic".

And how does one steal 10k+ from a COLD WALLET? In one TX:

https://www.walletexplorer.com/txid/c7b46a79fd8887038bd3a8e884b04820038415a60e0b9d2c2f5bcff68a2687bf

From what I see - https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/0c07e0bec1002bd2 - the stolen funds consists of virtually everything in Cryptsy's cold wallet(s). In essence, on July 29, 2014, Cryptsy was ~100% broke but continued to operate working with Josh Garza and Marshall Long at the time.

"If your erection should last more than 4 hours, give the Cryptsy thread a rest."
full member
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Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.

i'm agree with you. But how to send this message to cryptsy?
legendary
Activity: 1862
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Cryptsy should release a list of all wallet addresses and balances under their control. That way, we can assess the damage.
full member
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I'm Embarrassed to be here
Some pretty good questions being asked, ie. " What about non-BTC & Alts that people had balances of and want, they wern't 'stollen'

You got to sue them. Call Dan & David Silver at Silver Law. They are the same lawyers with the class action.

However, this happened with MTGox and a guy sued for his property back. The court denied it because they made a ruling that once deposited that it was impossible to determine which coins were specifically his property. You are likely to see the same thing happen here. The court will always support a real bankruptcy process instead of individuals bringing lawsuits to get their coins at the expense of other creditors.

So if you had coins in cryptsy, you just became a creditor. You are like to be paid out in USD maybe a couple years from now.

If anyone wants to sell ownership of the BTC balances that you have in Cryptsy, please PM me for an offer. I am still willing to purchase trapped BTC at a reduced rate approximately, $10 USD per BTC.

Yep, I had some there, stuck in maint (ALTS)..I been stuck for ages..nothin worthy of complaining about tho, considering ..chances are they dident exist if my hunch is right, and were just #'s on a ledger. Ahh well..back to the BTC charts...EARTH CORE!
legendary
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This exploit was posted here by grue on January 25th, 2015:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/beware-of-increasingly-sophisticated-malware-infection-attempts-935898

dooglus created the GitHub issue a couple months later on March 8th, 2015.
https://github.com/alerj78/lucky7coin/issues/1

Who would have thought cryptsy was running multiple wallets on the same server....not totally surprised to be honest. Their cold wallet storage claims were false...again, not surprised.

Edit:
If the story is even true. I don't think anyone involved has any credibility left. Absolute and complete gross negligence.
legendary
Activity: 1862
Merit: 1002
Some pretty good questions being asked, ie. " What about non-BTC & Alts that people had balances of and want, they wern't 'stollen'

You got to sue them. Call Dan & David Silver at Silver Law. They are the same lawyers with the class action.

However, this happened with MTGox and a guy sued for his property back. The court denied it because they made a ruling that once deposited that it was impossible to determine which coins were specifically his property. You are likely to see the same thing happen here. The court will always support a real bankruptcy process instead of individuals bringing lawsuits to get their coins at the expense of other creditors.

So if you had coins in cryptsy, you just became a creditor. You are like to be paid out in USD maybe a couple years from now.

If anyone wants to sell ownership of the BTC balances that you have in Cryptsy, please PM me for an offer. I am still willing to purchase trapped BTC at a reduced rate approximately, $10 USD per BTC.
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